Well, I just bought an SUV in Denver. Kind of. It's subject to a test drive...and my wife's approval (because she doesn't know yet).
Here is the Craigslist ad. (http://denver.craigslist.org/ctd/1546806234.html)
Hope it checks out, and if so, congrats!
That's a lovely SUV. What's it replacing, and why did you go with the options that you did?
Look at the pussy trailer hitch. :lol:
Quote from: NACar on January 11, 2010, 11:54:39 AM
Look at the pussy trailer hitch. :lol:
I just noticed that. I'll have to get them to switch it out for a real one.
Quote from: the Teuton on January 11, 2010, 11:50:34 AM
That's a lovely SUV. What's it replacing, and why did you go with the options that you did?
It's replacing the Freestyle. The lease is up in 2 weeks and we have to give it back within a month of that date. As for options, I'm not sure what you're asking. It's used, so I take the options it has. We wanted leather and a sunroof, but in that price range it was nearly impossible to find without going high mileage. I wonder if a certain mechanic that lives in the area would go look at it for me.
Why don't you stay in Canadia and stop buying all of our Fords?
Quote from: NACar on January 11, 2010, 11:54:39 AM
Look at the pussy trailer hitch. :lol:
Pretty sure that's the same one that's on our 03 explorer. But then again we've never towed anything with ours so :huh:
Looks like a nice truck, congrats man.
Did you consider buying the Freestyle? I remember you saying how happy you were with it. Always good to have a new car, though!
Looks real good. The 4.0 is a nice engine. I had one in my '93 Aerostar.
Quote from: nickdrinkwater on January 11, 2010, 12:42:24 PM
Looks like a nice truck, congrats man.
Did you consider buying the Freestyle? I remember you saying how happy you were with it. Always good to have a new car, though!
We considered it, but we have a couple problems with it for our needs. The first is the lack of leather. Cloth seats suck with kids and their spills. The next is the lack of off-road ability. I've taken the Freestyle places it was never meant to go, but it has limits that I would like to exceed. The last is it only tows 3500 lbs and I want to buy a ski boat in the next couple years.
Sweet! I like that generation of Explorer quite a bit.
Quote from: FoMoJo on January 11, 2010, 12:47:06 PM
Looks real good. The 4.0 is a nice engine. I had one in my '93 Aerostar.
You should have dropped a 5.0 in that thing.
Quote from: R-inge on January 11, 2010, 12:48:53 PM
Sweet! I like that generation of Explorer quite a bit.
How far away from Freeway Ford are you?
Quote from: HEMI666 on January 11, 2010, 12:51:57 PM
How far away from Freeway Ford are you?
About 80mins.
Quote from: R-inge on January 11, 2010, 01:10:17 PM
About 80mins.
Well, that's further then it looks on a map. :lol: I was going to ask if you could stop by there and take a look at the truck for me, but I'm not going to do that now. That's too far to ask someone to drive.
I wouldda bought a Borrego. :lol:
Quote from: the Teuton on January 11, 2010, 01:47:23 PM
I wouldda bought a Borrego. :lol:
Thankfully I'm not you.
Quote from: HEMI666 on January 11, 2010, 01:29:47 PM
Well, that's further then it looks on a map. :lol: I was going to ask if you could stop by there and take a look at the truck for me, but I'm not going to do that now. That's too far to ask someone to drive.
Yeah, sorry. If it were 30mins away I'd do it in a heartbeat, but this is a bit more of a commitment.
Quote from: R-inge on January 11, 2010, 02:01:07 PM
Yeah, sorry. If it were 30mins away I'd do it in a heartbeat, but this is a bit more of a commitment.
Just drive faster :huh:.
Quote from: FoMoJo on January 11, 2010, 02:03:14 PM
Just drive faster :huh:.
Hmm I say that to people all the time :lol:
Quote from: R-inge on January 11, 2010, 02:01:07 PM
Yeah, sorry. If it were 30mins away I'd do it in a heartbeat, but this is a bit more of a commitment.
Ride the motorcycle! :mask:
I'm surprised you can't find something like that for $20-22k in BC. But otherwise, nice truck!
Quote from: 3.0L V6 on January 11, 2010, 05:19:18 PM
I'm surprised you can't find something like that for $20-22k in BC. But otherwise, nice truck!
$28K here. We don't have the salt damage you get in Ontario.
Quote from: HEMI666 on January 11, 2010, 01:48:54 PM
Thankfully I'm not you.
Hyundai/Kia World Takeover 2015.
Quote from: the Teuton on January 11, 2010, 05:44:14 PM
Hyundai/Kia World Takeover 2015.
Have you seen the updated Santa Fe? The interior looks better than the outgoing model, as does the exterior.
Quote from: the Teuton on January 11, 2010, 05:44:14 PM
Hyundai/Kia World Takeover 2015.
World's ending in 2012.
Quote from: CJ on January 11, 2010, 05:45:21 PM
Have you seen the updated Santa Fe? The interior looks better than the outgoing model, as does the exterior.
The interior looks much the same, that is to say that I like what I see.
Quote from: SVT_Power on January 11, 2010, 05:49:40 PM
World's ending in 2012.
That's after Y2K wipes out all of our computers, right?
Quote from: the Teuton on January 11, 2010, 05:50:54 PM
That's after Y2K wipes out all of our computers, right?
Not sure. Call Nostradamus or the Mayans and ask.
Quote from: R-inge on January 11, 2010, 05:52:06 PM
Still winterized... :lol:
"Winterized", or
winterized?
(http://iceroadracing.net/galleripoe/images/a1300stbak.jpg)
:devil:
Quote from: CJ on January 11, 2010, 05:45:21 PM
Have you seen the updated Santa Fe? The interior looks better than the outgoing model, as does the exterior.
Actually, they look almost identical to the previous interior and exterior.
Quote from: the Teuton on January 11, 2010, 01:47:23 PM
I wouldda bought a Borrego. :lol:
My Kia dealer is offering $7k off their five Borregos.
Quote from: ifcar on January 11, 2010, 07:19:59 PM
My Kia dealer is offering $7k off their five Borregos.
They're actually really nice. What say you?
They are pretty nice, I agree.
Quote from: the Teuton on January 11, 2010, 07:24:40 PM
They're actually really nice. What say you?
I was impressed with the one I drove. It doesn't feel truck-based and has lots of space for an SUV. At $20k they'd fly off the lots if anyone had heard of them, but they've been there for months.
Quote from: FoMoJo on January 11, 2010, 12:47:06 PM
Looks real good. The 4.0 is a nice engine. I had one in my '93 Aerostar.
Not if you like getting good mileage. Although, that new Explorer probably has the SOHC version, which gets a bit better mileage.
I have the OHV, and you don't wanna know what the mileage is. :lol:
Quote from: Psilos on January 11, 2010, 07:57:54 PM
Not if you like getting good mileage. Although, that new Explorer probably has the SOHC version, which gets a bit better mileage.
I have the OHV, and you don't wanna know what the mileage is. :lol:
My dad has the same engine in his truck ('00 Mazda B4000 4x4 5-speed). It's pretty appalling around town, but I've gotten 20 mpg before (long highway slog, cruise set at 71 mph).
Quote from: The Pirate on January 11, 2010, 08:09:10 PM
My dad has the same engine in his truck ('00 Mazda B4000 4x4 5-speed). It's pretty appalling around town, but I've gotten 20 mpg before (long highway slog, cruise set at 71 mph).
Well, lucky you. :lol:
The Mazda/Ranger is 600 lbs lighter, too. I bet I could get at least 18 mpg hwy on a flat section of freeway with no wind. I haven't had it in those conditions yet.
Quote from: ifcar on January 11, 2010, 07:19:59 PM
My Kia dealer is offering $7k off their five Borregos.
I saw one going for 11k off around where I live.
I think most of Kia's lineup is pretty trashy, but the Borrego is actually really, really nice (I never drove one, only checked out it's interior/cargo room/etc) It's a shame it isn't selling better.
Just got off the phone with my wife. After the initial freak out, she has come around and likes the sounds of it.
Quote from: Submariner on January 11, 2010, 09:26:53 PM
I saw one going for 11k off around where I live.
I think most of Kia's lineup is pretty trashy, but the Borrego is actually really, really nice (I never drove one, only checked out it's interior/cargo room/etc) It's a shame it isn't selling better.
It's a shame that Kia picked quite possibly the worst summer (2008) in American history to introduce it, too.
Quote from: HEMI666 on January 11, 2010, 09:30:18 PM
Just got off the phone with my wife. After the initial freak out, she has come around and likes the sounds of it.
:lol:
Sounds like my parents!
Quote from: NACar on January 11, 2010, 05:55:13 PM
"Winterized", or winterized?
(http://iceroadracing.net/galleripoe/images/a1300stbak.jpg)
:devil:
:cheers:
So, Hemi, how's that 4.0 sound? ;) :lol:
Quote from: Psilos on January 11, 2010, 11:08:43 PM
So, Hemi, how's that 4.0 sound? ;) :lol:
The 4.0 actually has a nice throaty growl to it under hard acceleration. It's almost whisper quiet while cruising. Thanks for asking. :ohyeah:
Wait, you're driving it right now?
Quote from: the Teuton on January 11, 2010, 11:20:47 PM
Wait, you're driving it right now?
No. It's a carryover from the Tesla thread. Though I have driven the 4.0 recently to make sure we wanted an Explorer.
Why the V6?
Quote from: the Teuton on January 11, 2010, 11:22:50 PM
Why the V6?
V8s are really hard to find at a reasonable price.
Quote from: HEMI666 on January 11, 2010, 11:13:56 PM
The 4.0 actually has a nice throaty growl to it under hard acceleration. It's almost whisper quiet while cruising. Thanks for asking. :ohyeah:
Indeed.
:lol:
A Borrego really does sound like the better option, rather than a used Sploder. The Borrego V6 has 276 hp, and the V8 has 337, wow!
Borregos had V8s?
Quote from: the Teuton on January 11, 2010, 11:56:28 PM
Borregos had V8s?
They have them, and with 10-year, 100,000 mile warranties.
And with the Ifcar discount, a brand new 4wd V8 Borrego is only a couple thousand more than an old V6 Exploder. :huh:
Quote from: NACar on January 12, 2010, 12:07:33 AM
They have them, and with 10-year, 100,000 mile warranties.
And with the Ifcar discount, a brand new 4wd V8 Borrego is only a couple thousand more than an old V6 Exploder. :huh:
As a Canadian citizen with a Canadian address, I cannot buy a brand new vehicle in the US. The manufacturers do not allow it. So I will use the Build It price from Kia.ca. To get a Borrego with the V6, leather, and a sunroof it stickers at $43,295. In V8 trim it's $46,145. The used Explorer is $24,000 cheaper.
Quote from: HEMI666 on January 12, 2010, 12:14:02 AM
As a Canadian citizen with a Canadian address, I cannot buy a brand new vehicle in the US. The manufacturers do not allow it. So I will use the Build It price from Kia.ca. To get a Borrego with the V6, leather, and a sunroof it stickers at $43,295. In V8 trim it's $46,145. The used Explorer is $24,000 cheaper.
I know you really want the Borrego, so I'll buy it for you if you give me the cash. :ohyeah:
Quote from: HEMI666 on January 12, 2010, 12:14:02 AM
As a Canadian citizen with a Canadian address, I cannot buy a brand new vehicle in the US. The manufacturers do not allow it. So I will use the Build It price from Kia.ca. To get a Borrego with the V6, leather, and a sunroof it stickers at $43,295. In V8 trim it's $46,145. The used Explorer is $24,000 cheaper.
jeebus...for a Kia?!?!
Quote from: NACar on January 12, 2010, 12:21:09 AM
It's Canadian money! LOLOL
Which is virtually on par with the US dollar. I just went to kia.com and built a V6 with leather and a sunroof and it came to over $36,000. So even if they are giving $7000 off, it's still $10,000 more then the Explorer and I still can't buy it because the manufacturers won't allow US dealers to sell new cars to Canadians.
I went back to kia.ca and realized that the Borrego only comes with leather and a sunroof in Canada, so I built it again and it came to $39,145 for the V6.
Quote from: HEMI666 on January 12, 2010, 12:41:21 AM
Which is virtually on par with the US dollar. I just went to kia.com and built a V6 with leather and a sunroof and it came to over $36,000. So even if they are giving $7000 off, it's still $10,000 more then the Explorer and I still can't buy it because the manufacturers won't allow US dealers to sell new cars to Canadians.
I went back to kia.ca and realized that the Borrego only comes with leather and a sunroof in Canada, so I built it again and it came to $39,145 for the V6.
I still want the cash.
Quote from: HEMI666 on January 11, 2010, 10:50:42 AM
Well, I just bought an SUV in Denver. Kind of. It's subject to a test drive...and my wife's approval (because she doesn't know yet).
Here is the Craigslist ad. (http://denver.craigslist.org/ctd/1546806234.html)
In my experpeince, Denver is a bad place to buy an SUV, people actually value such things out there unlike the coasts. Further, Winter would seem like the wrong time to buy and SUV, sort of like buying a convertible in the spring.
Just sayin'
Quote from: SVT32V on January 12, 2010, 08:42:53 AM
In my experpeince, Denver is a bad place to buy an SUV, people actually value such things out there unlike the coasts. Further, Winter would seem like the wrong time to buy and SUV, sort of like buying a convertible in the spring.
Just sayin'
Not sure I follow. A good deal is a good deal no matter the time of year. It's a lease return as well by the way.
Nice thing about some lease returns is that many fleets have a strong maintenance plan. This may have been cared for quite well.
The thing to realize is that while used cars are up in sales there is still low demand across the industry, so salesmen will still make a good deal with you. Maybe he could have found something elsewhere but in terms of proximity to a major airport and length of the return trip, this is probably as far out as you'd want to go for a car.
Quote from: R-inge on January 12, 2010, 11:41:06 AM
Nice thing about some lease returns is that many fleets have a strong maintenance plan. This may have been cared for quite well.
The thing to realize is that while used cars are up in sales there is still low demand across the industry, so salesmen will still make a good deal with you. Maybe he could have found something elsewhere but in terms of proximity to a major airport and length of the return trip, this is probably as far out as you'd want to go for a car.
It's a two day drive. Virtually everything in California was 2 wheel drive too so that didn't work for me, and cars in the East are rusting away from all the salt damage.
Quote from: HEMI666 on January 12, 2010, 11:59:42 AM
It's a two day drive. Virtually everything in California was 2 wheel drive too so that didn't work for me, and cars in the East are rusting away from all the salt damage.
Do most people cars longer out west because of the lack of corrosion? My Mazda will still likely be running fine when the body and chassis rust away (and it's in pretty good shape 'cause it's from North Carolina).
Why not the V8?
Quote from: The Pirate on January 12, 2010, 09:03:39 PM
Do most people cars longer out west because of the lack of corrosion? My Mazda will still likely be running fine when the body and chassis rust away (and it's in pretty good shape 'cause it's from North Carolina).
Let me put it this way: there's a reason most of the custom shops are located out west.
My 94 Subaru which I still see on a weekly basis looks brand new, other than a dent in the passenger door and some scratches here and there, and it lived in ID and CO most of its life. No rust.
Well, I posted too soon. I've requested my deposit back because I found an even better deal in Seattle. This one popped up out of the blue. Usually the deals in Seattle aren't this good, so I pulled the trigger on it this morning, and I'll be going down to get it as soon as I can. Best I could find in BC with that mileage and those options was $29,000.
2007 Ford Explorer XLT, 4x4, 3 rows of Leather Seating, 26,000 miles, $18,984. (http://www.goodchevrolet.com/inventoryDisplay.aspx?s=used_detail&year=2007&make=Ford&model=Explorer%204WD%204dr%20V6%20XLT&inv=191&vin=1FMEU73E67UB39901&total=1&pos=1¤t=1&size=30)
Quote from: HEMI666 on January 15, 2010, 11:26:19 AM
Well, I posted too soon. I've requested my deposit back because I found an even better deal in Seattle. This one popped up out of the blue. Usually the deals in Seattle aren't this good, so I pulled the trigger on it this morning, and I'll be going down to get it as soon as I can. Best I could find in BC with that mileage and those options was $29,000.
2007 Ford Explorer XLT, 4x4, 3 rows of Leather Seating, 26,000 miles, $18,984.
(http://www.goodchevrolet.com/inventoryDisplay.aspx?s=used_detail&year=2007&make=Ford&model=Explorer%204WD%204dr%20V6%20XLT&inv=191&vin=1FMEU73E67UB39901&total=1&pos=1¤t=1&size=30)
:confused: wow, nice deal man! Good find. Bummed we won't meet up but I understand. :ohyeah:
Quote from: R-inge on January 15, 2010, 11:55:26 AM
:confused: wow, nice deal man! Good find. Bummed we won't meet up but I understand. :ohyeah:
Yeah, I was looking forward to that. I was also really looking forward to the hockey game and the Shelby museum.
So, u got deposit back ok?
Quote from: nickdrinkwater on January 15, 2010, 12:37:59 PM
So, u got deposit back ok?
Yup. Unfortunately the CDN dollar is worth more today then it was two days ago, so I'll be getting a few dollars less back then I initially gave them.
Well, I gotta' say I like the colour better. Better mileage as well. Looks like a real good deal.
Quote from: HEMI666 on January 15, 2010, 12:43:22 PM
Yup. Unfortunately the CDN dollar is worth more today then it was two days ago, so I'll be getting a few dollars less back then I initially gave them.
Cool.
One thing: is this the only car in the area you have found that suits?
Just thinking, normally it would be better 'business' to wait until you got there & then make an offer. From a haggling standpoint. If you've paid a deposit already I doubt you'd be in a good position to bargain
The trade off of course is that you also run the risk the car will be sold by the time you get there so it's good to have alternatives to fall back on
Quote from: nickdrinkwater on January 15, 2010, 02:37:11 PM
Cool.
One thing: is this the only car in the area you have found that suits?
Just thinking, normally it would be better 'business' to wait until you got there & then make an offer. From a haggling standpoint. If you've paid a deposit already I doubt you'd be in a good position to bargain
The trade off of course is that you also run the risk the car will be sold by the time you get there so it's good to have alternatives to fall back on
It's hard to find what we're looking for at a reasonable price. I've been looking for about 3 months now and this is the best one I've come across. I just finished negotiating the price, but they didn't move much because it's such a good deal already. The deal is subject to a test drive. If I don't like it after the test drive, I get every last penny back.
It looks like I paid for the truck just in time. Our dollar has dropped nearly two cents since I paid for it.
So, you own this now?
Sorry I missed the thread. Explorers are known for wheel bearing problems. When the issue first came up, we thought it was just 2003-05 models. As mileage crept up on newer ones, we saw the same thing. If you hear any noise while driving, don't assume it to be tire noise. ASK for them to check it. If the dealer says it is tire noise, do what we used to do to eliminate that possibility, pull another off the line and swap tires.
Be leery of wheels with curb rash too, that contributes to wheel bearing failure.
Quote from: JWC on January 21, 2010, 01:50:02 PM
So, you own this now?
Sorry I missed the thread. Explorers are known for wheel bearing problems. When the issue first came up, we thought it was just 2003-05 models. As mileage crept up on newer ones, we saw the same thing. If you hear any noise while driving, don't assume it to be tire noise. ASK for them to check it. If the dealer says it is tire noise, do what we used to do to eliminate that possibility, pull another off the line and swap tires.
Be leery of wheels with curb rash too, that contributes to wheel bearing failure.
It's only got 26,000 miles on it, but I'll make sure before I leave with it.
Quote from: HEMI666 on January 21, 2010, 02:05:54 PM
It's only got 26,000 miles on it, but I'll make sure before I leave with it.
It is a lot easier to handle those things beforehand. If you do find something wrong, even something minor, don't let them give you the "well, it is a used car". That's okay for small scratches and such, but it should be notated on the paperwork. Not for anything mechanical or electrical. I've seen it done at every dealership. That and getting you to take delivery with a promise to repair, only the sales manager will later claim the salesman didn't have the authority to give such a promise.
Explorers chew up front end parts in general...
Well I'm sitting in the airport waiting to board my flight to Seattle to pick up the Explorer. I'm sitting here liftening to Tracy Chapman on my iPod and I'm thinking the terrorists are winning. I went through three checkpoints that all asked the same questions and for the documentation. Not once was I searched despite the fact that I have no checked bags and a one way ticket. The two grandmas in front of me both had personal thorough searches done because a stupid random light said so. Its kinda like when you go to Mexico. The terrorists have won my friends. The terrorists have won.
Just wait till you get off the plane in Seattle. When I went to Orlando there was an automated message on the PA system saying, "Attention: the Department of Homeland Security terror alert level is now 'Orange'. Please monitor your luggage at all times, and advise security personnel if you encounter persons exhibiting suspicious behaviour."
I immediately started laughing. The terrorists have totally won.
About to take a Camaro SS out for a spin before I leave Seattle. I hope I don't crash in the rain.
Quote from: SVT666 on January 30, 2010, 04:20:29 PM
About to take a Camaro SS out for a spin before I leave Seattle. I hope I don't crash in the rain.
How do you just end up with a Camaro SS during a layover :/
Quote from: SVT666 on January 30, 2010, 04:20:29 PM
About to take a Camaro SS out for a spin before I leave Seattle. I hope I don't crash in the rain.
I wouldn't worry about it. Camaros actually have rear suspension.
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on January 30, 2010, 04:22:32 PM
How do you just end up with a Camaro SS during a layover :/
I was waiting for the paperwork for the Explorer and I asked the salesman if I could take the SS out for a spin and he grabbed the keys and said, "Let's go!".
Quote from: 280Z Turbo on January 31, 2010, 01:18:32 AM
I wouldn't worry about it. Camaros actually have rear suspension.
Suspension doesn't mean shit when the pavement is wet. It's all about tires and power at that point. The Camaros tires are shit in the wet and the power is overwhelming. I will have a review of the Camaro some time today.
7.5 hours of driving and two mountain passes...and the Explorer returned 22.1 mpg.
not bad
Quote from: SVT666 on January 31, 2010, 09:22:31 AM
Suspension doesn't mean shit when the pavement is wet. It's all about tires and power at that point. The Camaros tires are shit in the wet and the power is overwhelming. I will have a review of the Camaro some time today.
Your review:
pros:
can't compete with the mustang
cons:
can't see where im goin
too much power
not a mustang
slow
handles like shit
gm sucks
ugly everywhere
transformers was a horrible movie
mustang
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on January 31, 2010, 12:52:35 PM
Your review:
pros:
can't compete with the mustang
cons:
can't see where im goin
too much power
not a mustang
slow
handles like shit
gm sucks
ugly everywhere
transformers was a horrible movie
mustang
Go read my review.
Quote from: SVT666 on January 31, 2010, 09:23:10 AM
7.5 hours of driving and two mountain passes...and the Explorer returned 22.1 mpg.
0_0
That's pretty optimistic, maybe? That's 5 mpg over its rating.
Quote from: Rupert on January 31, 2010, 03:45:19 PM
0_0
That's pretty optimistic, maybe? That's 5 mpg over its rating.
For the V6?
Quote from: Rupert on January 31, 2010, 03:45:19 PM
0_0
That's pretty optimistic, maybe? That's 5 mpg over its rating.
22.1 L/100km? :lol:
Er, 4 mpg. On summer gas, without any mountain passes, 20-23 seems reasonable, but with winter gas and some big passes, 22 seems a little out of reach. Of course, the nature of mpg calculations is such that there are always outliers, and the best thing is to get an average over many fill-ups, so I suppose 22 mpg is within the expected error (I say that like I've actually calculated something there :lol: ).
Quote from: Rupert on January 31, 2010, 03:45:19 PM
0_0
That's pretty optimistic, maybe? That's 5 mpg over its rating.
The on board computer said 22.1 MPG. I thought it was a bit optimistic, so I filled up this morning and did the calculation by hand and I got 22.06 MPG.
Shocking...
I don't think 22 MPG is out of the park for a V6 Exploder. :huh: Ours (a 2003 V6) gets about that on highway/freeway stints. It's actually quite frugal. It's got a really nice top gear that puts the RPM nice and low for cruising. :ohyeah:
Quote from: giant_mtb on January 31, 2010, 05:00:48 PM
I don't think 22 MPG is out of the park for a V6 Exploder. :huh: Ours (a 2003 V6) gets about that on highway/freeway stints. It's actually quite frugal. It's got a really nice top gear that puts the RPM nice and low for cruising. :ohyeah:
Yeah I was cruising at a little over 2000 rpm.
Quote from: SVT666 on January 31, 2010, 05:04:38 PM
Yeah I was cruising at a little over 2000 rpm.
:rockon:
Amazing what gearing can do. :mask:
Crikey. Maybe I need an overdrive for my overdrive. x_x
Quote from: SVT666 on January 31, 2010, 05:04:38 PM
Yeah I was cruising at a little over 2000 rpm.
That's like, what...65-70 MPH?
Quote from: Rupert on January 31, 2010, 07:09:22 PM
Crikey. Maybe I need an overdrive for my overdrive. x_x
Yo dawg...
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on January 31, 2010, 12:52:35 PM
Your review:
pros:
can't compete with the mustang
cons:
can't see where im goin
too much power
not a mustang
slow
handles like shit
gm sucks
ugly everywhere
transformers was a horrible movie
mustang
His real review was more even-handed, but that was still pretty funny.