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I'm driving this for a week. Anything I should specifically look to address?
More photos: http://www.examiner.com/x-1017-Autos-Examiner~y2010m2d1-A-week-in-the-2010-Suzuki-SX4-SportBack-Day-1-introduction
4wd? Take it out on some snowmobile trails. Take pics/vids.
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on February 01, 2010, 02:59:24 PM
4wd? Take it out on some snowmobile trails. Take pics/vids.
FWD.
Also, to my knowledge, D.C. doesn't have snowmobile trails.
Visibility. I've heard that the dual a-pillar can hinder visibility.
And since when did they start offering a FWD variant?
Quote from: 2o6 on February 01, 2010, 03:05:29 PM
Visibility. I've heard that the dual a-pillar can hinder visibility.
And since when did they start offering a FWD variant?
It does.
Since they needed to divert funds to make the Kizashi awesomer.
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on February 01, 2010, 03:06:29 PM
It does.
Since they needed to divert funds to make the Kizashi awesomer.
Or at least cut price. At a base price of 13K, it seems to be an attractive proposition.
On the bottom of the spec sheet you list Hyundai as the manufacturer.
Quote from: 2o6 on February 01, 2010, 03:05:29 PM
Visibility. I've heard that the dual a-pillar can hinder visibility.
Not that I noticed.
QuoteAnd since when did they start offering a FWD variant?
Since ever.
Quote from: 93JC on February 01, 2010, 03:33:35 PM
Not that I noticed.
Since ever.
Hatchback, and in the USA. For awhile, the hatch was AWD only. You could only get FWD in the sedan trims.
Well, it's universally known you guys suck.
Quote from: 2o6 on February 01, 2010, 03:05:29 PM
Visibility. I've heard that the dual a-pillar can hinder visibility.
And since when did they start offering a FWD variant?
Since the 2009 model year.
Quote from: TBR on February 01, 2010, 03:27:42 PM
On the bottom of the spec sheet you list Hyundai as the manufacturer.
Fixed it, thanks. My template was last week's Tucson review.
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on February 01, 2010, 03:00:08 PM
:nono: Take it back for a refund.
He just needs a locker on that bitch. Fuck 4wd.
Quote from: SVT666 on February 01, 2010, 04:26:44 PM
He just needs a locker on that bitch. Fuck 4wd.
FWD lockers are the shit. I'm going to weld up the Swift's spyder gears and see what's what.
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on February 01, 2010, 04:28:45 PM
FWD lockers are the shit. I'm going to weld up the Swift's spyder gears and see what's what.
Does Swift have the horses power to spin both wheels simultaneously?
Quote from: The Pirate on February 01, 2010, 06:34:23 PM
Does Swift have the horses power to spin both wheels simultaneously?
It will light up both tires going into third gear.
Navi -- how is it?
Quote from: the Teuton on February 01, 2010, 06:54:44 PM
Navi -- how is it?
Small and hard to reach, but great graphics. I'll be sure to play with it more later.
I don't want any of you seeing me.
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All the basics would be nice iffy.
Interior fit and finish and quality. Highway noise levels. Handling and cornering duties. Acceleration. How much stuff can you shove into the boot.
Handling. TTAC had extremely good things to say about the handling of the SX4, I want to see if you can corroborate that with your experiences.
1. Get more SX4's.
2. Acquire a matching number of Scion XD's.
3. Play soccer.
Quote from: Vinsanity on February 04, 2010, 11:52:41 AM
1. Get more SX4's.
2. Acquire a matching number of Scion XD's.
3. Play soccer.
YES! Examiners from every city will compete!
Quote from: Laconian on February 04, 2010, 11:57:51 AM
YES! Examiners from every city will compete!
nothing like a good old East Coast vs. West Coast rivalry :lol:
Quote from: Vinsanity on February 04, 2010, 03:34:13 PM
nothing like a good old East Coast vs. West Coast rivalry :lol:
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We all know how this ended.
Quote from: the Teuton on February 04, 2010, 10:35:51 PM
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We all know how this ended.
...but imagine if we made them settle it on a soccer field with a Suzuki SX4 and Scion XD instead of guns...
Quote from: Vinsanity on February 04, 2010, 10:53:42 PM
...but imagine if we made them settle it on a soccer field with a Suzuki SX4 and Scion XD instead of guns...
A big red Escalade named Suge Knight would probably still have both of them shot down in spite...
Quote from: Laconian on February 02, 2010, 11:17:35 PM
Handling. TTAC had extremely good things to say about the handling of the SX4, I want to see if you can corroborate that with your experiences.
My parents just bought an SX4 AWD last month - they also said it handled really well. I haven't driven it yet, though.
Top Gear needs to have round three.
Aygo vs...iQ?
Aygo vs....Ka?
Aygo vs....New Spark?
Aygo vs....500?
Aygo vs.....Twingo?
Aygo vs.....i10?
Quote from: ifcar on February 01, 2010, 06:57:02 PM
Small and hard to reach... I'll be sure to play with it more later.
TWSS
:clap:
This just in: Snow + SX4 - AWD = bring a shovel.
Quote from: ifcar on February 06, 2010, 07:47:19 AM
This just in: Snow + SX4 - AWD = bring a shovel.
That's with any car.
Quote from: 2o6 on February 06, 2010, 08:15:03 AM
That's with any car.
No, you can't subtract AWD from most cars.
Quote from: ifcar on February 06, 2010, 08:18:07 AM
No, you can't subtract AWD from most cars.
I meant getting stuck.
Ifcar, is the SX4's AWD system a "true" 50/50 split system? Or is it a reactive, front-biased, rear-wheels-only-kick-in-when-front-ones-have-no-traction sort of deal?
Quote from: 2o6 on February 06, 2010, 08:23:47 AM
I meant getting stuck.
Ifcar, is the SX4's AWD system a "true" 50/50 split system? Or is it a reactive, front-biased, rear-wheels-only-kick-in-when-front-ones-have-no-traction sort of deal?
It can be locked in at low speeds.
Quote from: ifcar on February 06, 2010, 07:47:19 AM
This just in: Snow + SX4 - AWD = bring a shovel.
Snow + any car + driving like a donkey = bring a shovel :tounge:
Quote from: ifcar on February 06, 2010, 08:18:07 AM
No, you can't subtract AWD from most cars.
Shouldda got the AWD model...
Quote from: the Teuton on February 06, 2010, 09:44:55 AM
Shouldda got the AWD model...
They don't have more than one SX4 in the DC press fleet. And ordinarily, this is the model I would have preferred anyway.
But nothing is getting around at this point. They're plowing with construction equipment and still not keeping the roads clear. Even the AWD's extra inch of ground clearance wouldn't get it through two and a half feet.
Quote from: ifcar on February 06, 2010, 11:01:18 AM
They don't have more than one SX4 in the DC press fleet. And ordinarily, this is the model I would have preferred anyway.
But nothing is getting around at this point. They're plowing with construction equipment and still not keeping the roads clear. Even the AWD's extra inch of ground clearance wouldn't get it through two and a half feet.
Good point. A rally-bred monster would make life more fun, though. :lol:
Quote from: ifcar on February 06, 2010, 11:01:18 AM
They don't have more than one SX4 in the DC press fleet. And ordinarily, this is the model I would have preferred anyway.
But nothing is getting around at this point. They're plowing with construction equipment and still not keeping the roads clear. Even the AWD's extra inch of ground clearance wouldn't get it through two and a half feet.
Most vehicles will not get through that, but sounds like a great opportunity for a article on the interior/cargo details of the SX4 since the refresh!
Quote from: WookieOnRitalin on February 06, 2010, 12:38:36 PM
Most vehicles will not get through that, but sounds like a great opportunity for a article on the interior/cargo details of the SX4 since the refresh!
I do hope to get to that. I'll first need to wait for the snow to stop, identify which snow mound contains the Suzuki, and then dig it out with a borrowed shovel. Sometime tomorrow.
Quote from: ifcar on February 06, 2010, 02:48:54 PM
I do hope to get to that. I'll first need to wait for the snow to stop, identify which snow mound contains the Suzuki, and then dig it out with a borrowed shovel. Sometime tomorrow.
Raza has a shovel.
BTW, not all AWD systems are created equal. Some douche in an X-Type tried to get out from a snow drift today. His rear wheels spun, but he didn't go anywhere. Actually, his rear driver's wheel spun, but I'm not sure about any of the others.
I kinda want to take my Level 41 Outback out in a storm like this with tire chains equipped for +50 Traction, -20 Accuracy and Range, and see what happens.
Quote from: the Teuton on February 06, 2010, 03:13:48 PM
BTW, not all AWD systems are created equal. Some douche in an X-Type tried to get out from a snow drift today. His rear wheels spun, but he didn't go anywhere. Actually, his rear driver's wheel spun, but I'm not sure about any of the others.
With an open front diff often just one front tire will spin. That's how it goes with my WRX.
Anyway, quick little story: in this picture I was actually high-centered on this snow drift. At one point I stepped out of the car with the transmission in reverse gear, and three tires just slowly spinning around at idle speed.
(http://i589.photobucket.com/albums/ss335/47acp/Personal/thP1010684.jpg)
Quote from: R-inge on February 06, 2010, 03:14:40 PM
I kinda want to take my Level 41 Outback out in a storm like this with tire chains equipped for +50 Traction, -20 Accuracy and Range, and see what happens.
lul, hope you have +50 stamina as well
Quote from: R-inge on February 06, 2010, 03:15:17 PM
With an open front diff often just one front tire will spin. That's how it goes with my WRX.
nub :rolleyes:
Yeah, I need one of these: http://www.rallispec.com/prod_diff.htm (Scroll down to "Subaru Helical Front LSD, 5mt").
Quote from: R-inge on February 06, 2010, 03:15:17 PM
With an open front diff often just one front tire will spin. That's how it goes with my WRX.
Anyway, quick little story: in this picture I was actually high-centered on this snow drift. At one point I stepped out of the car with the transmission in reverse gear, and three tires just slowly spinning around at idle speed.
(http://i589.photobucket.com/albums/ss335/47acp/Personal/thP1010684.jpg)
I'm not sure if you'd know how the AWD would work in the auto models, but it almost seemed like you could lock them to all work at the same time. I dunno how it works exactly, especially since that car had open diffs all around.
Quote from: R-inge on February 06, 2010, 03:19:13 PM
Yeah, I need one of these: http://www.rallispec.com/prod_diff.htm (Scroll down to "Subaru Helical Front LSD, 5mt").
Install kit includes stub axle set making it a direct swap for all early Subaru 5MT gearboxes.GET IT NAWO
Quote from: the Teuton on February 06, 2010, 03:20:34 PM
I'm not sure if you'd know how the AWD would work in the auto models, but it almost seemed like you could lock them to all work at the same time. I dunno how it works exactly, especially since that car had open diffs all around.
I thought your old one was just a locking center differential, so it would be like a regular 4x4.
Basically with an open diff energy will take the path of least resistance, so whichever wheel has the least traction will eventually get all the torque. So even with the transfer unit/center diff/whatever you want to call it locked in 50/50 that just means that each axle set gets 50% of available torque. How it uses that torque is up to the differential to sort out. Or, if your car has traction control it can shunt torque side to side in a primitive way by clamping the brakes on the wheels that spin, which directs torque to the other side. I much prefer a more elegant system such as the Honda SH-AWD or the Mitsubishi S-AYC. I'm still not sure how those work. Stay tuned for an epic post from 565 complete with pictures and stuff. :lol:
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on February 06, 2010, 03:22:32 PM
I thought your old one was just a locking center differential, so it would be like a regular 4x4.
That must be it. It had a permanent 50-50 split in 2nd and 3rd gears, but apparently there's a way to override that in the computer system somehow.
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on February 06, 2010, 03:21:28 PM
Install kit includes stub axle set making it a direct swap for all early Subaru 5MT gearboxes.
GET IT NAWO
Yeah, I know. Just as soon as I save up for an RA gearset so I can do it all at once, mmkay?
Quote from: R-inge on February 06, 2010, 03:25:21 PM
Yeah, I know. Just as soon as I save up for an RA gearset so I can do it all at once, mmkay?
You're going to Record Attempt your WRX? :wub:
Quote from: R-inge on February 06, 2010, 03:24:19 PM
Basically with an open diff energy will take the path of least resistance, so whichever wheel has the least traction will eventually get all the torque rotational motion, and the torque required to spin that wheel is all that will be applied to the other wheel, which usually is not enough to move the vehicle much, if at all. So even with the transfer unit/center diff/whatever you want to call it locked in 50/50 that just means that each axle set gets 50% of available torque. How it uses that torque is up to the differential to sort out. Or, if your car has traction control it can shunt torque side to side increase torque to the motionless wheel in a primitive way by clamping the brakes on the wheels that spin, which directs torque increases the torque on the spinning wheel, and thus torque to the other side because open differentials always split applied torque 50/50. I much prefer a more elegant system such as the Honda SH-AWD or the Mitsubishi S-AYC. I'm still not sure how those work. Stay tuned for an epic post from 565 complete with pictures and stuff. :lol:
Sorry I'm a jackass
Quote from: the Teuton on February 06, 2010, 03:30:38 PM
You're going to Record Attempt your WRX? :wub:
What does that even mean?
Quote from: the Teuton on February 06, 2010, 02:56:21 PM
Raza has a shovel.
Wrong kind, unless Raza's been doing it wrong this whole time.
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on February 06, 2010, 03:32:15 PM
What does that even mean?
Subaru World Rally X Subaru Technica International Type Record Attempt.
Quote from: the Teuton on February 06, 2010, 03:34:48 PM
Subaru World Rally X Subaru Technica International Type Record Attempt.
Right, but what does that have to do with gears?
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on February 06, 2010, 03:35:33 PM
Right, but what does that have to do with gears?
The 5-speed transmission gear set he wants. It's short, and it's meant for the 2.0 engines that rev like hell. That said, with some torque (EJ25), it should accelerate like nothing else this side of a 911.
Quote from: the Teuton on February 06, 2010, 03:39:07 PM
The 5-speed transmission gear set he wants. It's short, and it's meant for the 2.0 engines that rev like hell. That said, with some torque (EJ25), it should accelerate like nothing else this side of a 911.
Ok. And then top speed would be about 70 mph, I suppose.
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on February 06, 2010, 03:40:57 PM
Ok. And then top speed would be about 70 mph, I suppose.
Probably more like 120 or so, but it'll be really quick.
Does it come with a sequential shift linkage?
Quote from: ifcar on February 06, 2010, 03:34:30 PM
Wrong kind, unless Raza's been doing it wrong this whole time.
:lol:
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on February 06, 2010, 03:31:55 PM
Sorry I'm a jackass
:huh:
Your edit makes no sense. Start over with a clean slate please.
Quote from: the Teuton on February 06, 2010, 03:30:38 PM
You're going to Record Attempt your WRX? :wub:
I'd get the gearing which closest matches my car and then do a 3.90 final drive swap as well. Gearing would be similar to the 08+ cars, which would be nice. Mine is a bit tall, particularly a mile up where bottom end power suffers the most.
Quote from: R-inge on February 06, 2010, 03:53:31 PM
:huh:
Your edit makes no sense. Start over with a clean slate please.
It don't just make sense, it makes DOLLA BILLZ. Ever hear the term "torque biasing differential"? That can generally be applied to any limited-slip differential, because that's exactly what they do: they the natural 50/50 torque split, and bias more torque to the slowest moving wheel.
Oh, just read this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limited_slip_differential#Benefits
Ah, I see. I misunderstood the relationship between torque and how it related to the spinning wheel.
Quote from: R-inge on February 06, 2010, 04:22:18 PM
Ah, I see. I misunderstood the relationship between torque and how it related to the spinning wheel.
You and me, both. It clicked for me when I thought about how as soon as a wheel breaks loose, it corresponds with a drop of load on the engine - torque through the entire drive train suddenly decreased to near zero, and that is how much torque is being applied to move the vehicle forward with both wheels, and probably why it is now stuck.
Heh, cool. ....learn something knew every day. Interestingly, it turns out a helical LSD such as the one I linked wouldn't really give me additional traction in the snow.
I've dug my car out with my hands before. State College could be a pain like that sometimes (one year, I had a parking spot on a slope, too, so I was able to get out, but got stuck getting back in. My aunt's car got stuck in my driveway before and I got it out.
AWD is just nice, not necessary. Some people need to see this more often: :facepalm:
I am finding myself really want a SX4. Here's hoping the used market isn't kind to them. I might want to pick-up a facelifted Sportback in a couple of years.
Quote from: TBR on February 11, 2010, 12:11:08 AM
I am finding myself really want a SX4. Here's hoping the used market isn't kind to them. I might want to pick-up a facelifted Sportback in a couple of years.
I've yet to see a SportBack in dealer inventory. I have seen a few manuals in the lower trims, at least, but you certainly won't have a lot to choose from when you're shopping.
Good review Brady.
What I find most interesting about the SX4 are two things. I like the variety of models with the SX4 and I think they are all strategically placed with a variety of options/packages/trims to accommodate most consumers at a variety of price ranges. The LE Sedan to the Sport Sedan. The Sportback to the Crossover with AWD and a couple more inches of ground clearance. The other thing I think often unnoticed about the SX4 is that is the same size as a Mazda3, Lancer Sportback, Impreza, Matrix, and Golf in a much smaller package with a shorter wheelbase, length, and width (same can said for the Fit). What is also impressive is that within that small package there 54 Cubes of cargo room with those fold down seats now including the floor board storage area. Those 54 Cubes best the all hatches in the segment except the Honda Fit.
I did not know that until I looked it up. It is funny that two subcompacts (though compact sized inside) are tops in cargo volume. So much is emphasized on utility when hatches are considered, but two subcompacts actually offer the most utility. With the SX4, there is a also the Crossover that offers 7 inches of ground clearance, roof racks, and AWD to boot making it even more utilitarian.
It seems like the SX4 is actually a hell of a deal. To me, there are only two real drawbacks. No sunroof/moonroof on their hatches and a small gas tank on the Crossover (11.9 gallons). Fuel efficiency is decent enough and is competitive for its size. It may be a little underpowered, but Zuki could easily fix that with a turbo or a bigger 4 cylinder. The Kizashi's four in the SX4 would be sex.
"Fuel efficiency is decent enough and is competitive for its size."
Fuel economy is definitely a major weak point. With what subcompact is it competitive with? It's not competitive with many midsize cars.
Also, I've yet to put up the full review. Maybe next week.
Quote from: ifcar on February 17, 2010, 07:56:36 AM
"Fuel efficiency is decent enough and is competitive for its size."
Fuel economy is definitely a major weak point. With what subcompact is it competitive with? It's not competitive with many midsize cars.
Also, I've yet to put up the full review. Maybe next week.
I agree, but when you stack up the SX4 against the Impreza, Lancer Sportback, Madza3, Golf base, Caliber, and Matrix (both the 1.8, and it bests the 2.4 AWD), it really is far more competitive. I do not think the people at Suzuki try to market the SX4 against subcompacts, but rather Compacts like they market the Kizashi against other midsize vehicles.
It depends on how you view the SX4 and what class you put it in. In some ways, you should put the Versa and Fit in the compact class due to their excellent interior volumes as well where their fuel efficiency is quite dominant.
For example, the SX4 sedan BOASTS 104 cubes of interior space while other sedans like the Civic (91 cubes) and Corolla (92 cubes) do not and an extra 3 cubes of Trunk space. From my perspective, that is quite a feet.
The kicker is that both vehicles deliver better fuel economy, but only by a couple numbers. The SX4 sedan comes in at 25/32 (EPA) with a CVT while the Civic manages 26/34 and the Corolla manages 26/34. Considering how much extra space you get inside the car and in the trunk, that is not so much of a compromise since a consumer is in fact buying a bigger car despite a smaller overall exterior size. To me, that is still competitive.
When you compare the SX4 to its hatchback competitors, the fuel economy numbers match up well AND it beats almost all of them in space and only a fraction of those offer AWD and fewer offer 7 inches of ground clearance.
It's closest competitors, the Impreza (20/26) and Matrix (20/26) with AWD do not achieve the fuel economy of the SX4 AWD AND you get more space in the SX4.
I thought the fuel economy sucked too Brady, but then I actually looked at the numbers.
Again, it depends on how a person views the SX4. When you look at its shear size, it is more compact than subcompact. How it compares overall to those vehicles is an entire question in of itself. I think you could answer that better than I can. I imagine that the SX4 lags behind those vehicles in terms of refinement, acceleration, and quality.
Overall, the SX4 is quite a package and it is pretty competitive.
Quote from: WookieOnRitalin on February 17, 2010, 08:55:53 AM
I agree, but when you stack up the SX4 against the Impreza, Lancer Sportback, Madza3, Golf base, Caliber, and Matrix (both the 1.8, and it bests the 2.4 AWD), it really is far more competitive. I do not think the people at Suzuki try to market the SX4 against subcompacts, but rather Compacts like they market the Kizashi against other midsize vehicles.
It depends on how you view the SX4 and what class you put it in. In some ways, you should put the Versa and Fit in the compact class due to their excellent interior volumes as well where their fuel efficiency is quite dominant.
For example, the SX4 sedan BOASTS 104 cubes of interior space while other sedans like the Civic (91 cubes) and Corolla (92 cubes) do not and an extra 3 cubes of Trunk space. From my perspective, that is quite a feet.
The kicker is that both vehicles deliver better fuel economy, but only by a couple numbers. The SX4 sedan comes in at 25/32 (EPA) with a CVT while the Civic manages 26/34 and the Corolla manages 26/34. Considering how much extra space you get inside the car and in the trunk, that is not so much of a compromise since a consumer is in fact buying a bigger car despite a smaller overall exterior size. To me, that is still competitive.
When you compare the SX4 to its hatchback competitors, the fuel economy numbers match up well AND it beats almost all of them in space and only a fraction of those offer AWD and fewer offer 7 inches of ground clearance.
It's closest competitors, the Impreza (20/26) and Matrix (20/26) with AWD do not achieve the fuel economy of the SX4 AWD AND you get more space in the SX4.
I thought the fuel economy sucked too Brady, but then I actually looked at the numbers.
Again, it depends on how a person views the SX4. When you look at its shear size, it is more compact than subcompact. How it compares overall to those vehicles is an entire question in of itself. I think you could answer that better than I can. I imagine that the SX4 lags behind those vehicles in terms of refinement, acceleration, and quality.
Overall, the SX4 is quite a package and it is pretty competitive.
Your interior volume figures are grossly inaccurate. Per the EPA website:
Passenger volume:
Corolla: 92 cubic feet
Civic: 91 cubic feet
SX4 sedan: 88 cubic feet
Trunk volume:
SX4 sedan: 14 cubic feet
Corolla: 12 cubic feet
Civic: 12 cubic feet
Combined:
Corolla: 104 cubic feet
Civic: 103 cubic feet
SX4: 102 cubic feet
The SX4 I was driving -- a front-drive manual hatchback -- does not have nearly the gas mileage of competing subcompact hatchbacks. Yes, the AWD option gives it a unique advantage, but the cars you mention are more alternatives than direct competitors. And the sedan's EPA ratings are finally acceptable by compact class standards (only with the CVT -- I look forward to finding out how fast and quiet that is) but neither space nor mileage matches the best.
Also, the automatic Civic's mileage ratings are 25/36.
Quote from: ifcar on February 17, 2010, 09:04:54 AM
Your interior volume figures are grossly inaccurate. Per the EPA website:
Passenger volume:
Corolla: 92 cubic feet
Civic: 91 cubic feet
SX4 sedan: 88 cubic feet
Trunk volume:
SX4 sedan: 14 cubic feet
Corolla: 12 cubic feet
Civic: 12 cubic feet
Combined:
Corolla: 104 cubic feet
Civic: 103 cubic feet
SX4: 102 cubic feet
The SX4 I was driving -- a front-drive manual hatchback -- does not have nearly the gas mileage of competing subcompact hatchbacks. Yes, the AWD option gives it a unique advantage, but the cars you mention are more alternatives than direct competitors. And the sedan's EPA ratings are finally acceptable by compact class standards (only with the CVT -- I look forward to finding out how fast and quiet that is) but neither space nor mileage matches the best.
Also, the automatic Civic's mileage ratings are 25/36.
You're right. I was looking at car.com comparisons that have inaccurate data. Woops. They have every other vehicle right except for the SX4. In that case, I retract my argument for competitive interior space. I feel dumb.
Quote from: WookieOnRitalin on February 17, 2010, 09:20:55 AM
You're right. I was looking at car.com comparisons that have inaccurate data. Woops. They have every other vehicle right except for the SX4. In that case, I retract my argument for competitive interior space. I feel dumb.
Car.com or Cars.com? I use Cars.com a lot -- perhaps I need to switch sources...
Quote from: ifcar on February 17, 2010, 09:31:11 AM
Car.com or Cars.com? I use Cars.com a lot -- perhaps I need to switch sources...
Cars.com. Typo. It was strange. All the other volumes were correct except the SX4. The Sedan is listed at 104 cubes and 15.5 cubes of trunk space. How the hell did that happen?
Full review posted:
http://www.examiner.com/x-1017-Autos-Examiner~y2010m3d1-Review-2010-Suzuki-SX4-SportBack
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