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Title: Car Ramp Thingy
Post by: TurboDan on February 13, 2010, 09:35:58 AM
A while back, someone posted a link to this ramp-like thingy that allows you to get under your car for routine maintenance (oil changes, etc.). Seems like it would be a good alternative to a floor jack. Does anyone have the link to where I could buy one of these?
Title: Re: Car Ramp Thingy
Post by: giant_mtb on February 13, 2010, 09:38:57 AM
Go to Wal-Mart or any car parts store like Advance Auto.  They have ramps.  Should be about 30-40 bucks.

(http://www.dynateck.co.uk/MAIN/RhinoRamps.jpg)
Title: Re: Car Ramp Thingy
Post by: TurboDan on February 13, 2010, 09:44:52 AM
Sweet! Thanks!

I'm tired of minimum wage oil change dudes half-assing the job and refusing to put my skid-plate back on correctly, causing the damn thing to nearly fall off a couple days later. Plus the idea of a $70 oil change for synthetic drives me insane. It got worse this week when I went to pay and the lady behind the counter asked "How much do you want to leave for a tip?" Tip? WTF? You already raped me for $70 for the damn oil change in the first place - not to mention the guy called out "Who has the Jetta" and when I said "I have a Passat, you mean me?" he gave me a snarky "Whatever" and rolled his eyes. How the hell am I supposed to know there wasn't a Jetta owner there too? Arrrrgghhhh oil change places annoy the shit outta me.

OK, rant over!  :ohyeah: :ohyeah: :ohyeah:

:lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Car Ramp Thingy
Post by: Rupert on February 13, 2010, 01:07:39 PM
A tip for a car mechanic? And not even a real one? Wow.
Title: Re: Car Ramp Thingy
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on February 13, 2010, 02:39:37 PM
Get the plastic ones.
Title: Re: Car Ramp Thingy
Post by: Rupert on February 13, 2010, 03:49:54 PM
Rhino Ramps, yeah?
Title: Re: Car Ramp Thingy
Post by: Secret Chimp on February 13, 2010, 04:52:40 PM
Rhino Ramps are Jesus Ramps.
Title: Re: Car Ramp Thingy
Post by: 280Z Turbo on February 13, 2010, 05:31:40 PM
I don't trust those.

I like jackstands.
Title: Re: Car Ramp Thingy
Post by: Secret Chimp on February 13, 2010, 07:20:14 PM
I think your car is going to be a lot more stable on ramps than on jackstands.
Title: Re: Car Ramp Thingy
Post by: 93JC on February 13, 2010, 07:28:20 PM
My dad had a sweet set of metal ramps, but they're gone. Not sure what the hell he did with 'em. :rage:
Title: Re: Car Ramp Thingy
Post by: VTEC_Inside on February 13, 2010, 11:36:31 PM
Happy Rhino Ramp owner here.

Only beef is that they are a bit lower than your basic metal ramp. That's not an issue just doing an oil change, but really limits what you can get to if you are on a creeper.
Title: Re: Car Ramp Thingy
Post by: Rupert on February 14, 2010, 01:31:34 AM
Low is good if you have a sports car.
Title: Re: Car Ramp Thingy
Post by: S204STi on February 14, 2010, 07:56:16 AM
Quote from: Rupert on February 13, 2010, 01:07:39 PM
A tip for a car mechanic? And not even a real one? Wow.

I've received a tip twice, both amounting to a total of $2.  Not really a tipping industry IMO...
Title: Re: Car Ramp Thingy
Post by: VTEC_Inside on February 14, 2010, 09:28:53 AM
Quote from: Rupert on February 14, 2010, 01:31:34 AM
Low is good if you have a sports car.

No doubt, but it kinda defeats the point of driving it up on ramps if you still don't have enough room to do anything under there.
Title: Re: Car Ramp Thingy
Post by: S204STi on February 14, 2010, 09:32:41 AM
:lol:
Title: Re: Car Ramp Thingy
Post by: Byteme on February 14, 2010, 10:58:57 AM
I've got a set of metal ramps I really like.  Whatever you buy make sure they are sturdy. Two other points to check on.

1.  Make sure the front overhand of the car doesn't hit the ramps before the tire touches the ramp part.  If tha t happens the car will just push the ramp out or the way.  You can overcome this by placing a short length of 2X6 in front of the ramp for the car to roll on before it gets to the ramp.

2.  On slick surface, like my garage floor (tiled) the tire will just push the ramp around instead of rolling up the ramp.  Make sure ou use the ramps on a surface that will not let the ramps slide like that.  I fixed that by attaching a web strap to each ramp.  Ehen the front tire contacts the ramp the rear tire is on the strap preventing the ramp from sliding.  The below picture shows the straps and ramps after the rear wheels are off the car.



General tims when using ramps or jackstands.

NEVER GET UNDER THE CAR WHEN IT IS ONLY ON A JACK.   Lower the car onto jackstands and then leave the jack in position to take the load if the jackstand fails.

Before you get under the car grab hold of a fender and give the car a good shake in all directions.  If it moves a bit it isn't stable enough for me to crawl under.  
Title: Re: Car Ramp Thingy
Post by: TurboDan on February 14, 2010, 11:39:42 AM
Quote from: VTEC_Inside on February 13, 2010, 11:36:31 PM
Happy Rhino Ramp owner here.

Only beef is that they are a bit lower than your basic metal ramp. That's not an issue just doing an oil change, but really limits what you can get to if you are on a creeper.

Come to think of it, does the angle of the ramp affect oil drainage at all?
Title: Re: Car Ramp Thingy
Post by: giant_mtb on February 14, 2010, 11:48:12 AM
Quote from: TurboDan on February 14, 2010, 11:39:42 AM
Come to think of it, does the angle of the ramp affect oil drainage at all?

Get four! :lol:
Title: Re: Car Ramp Thingy
Post by: Rupert on February 14, 2010, 05:45:26 PM
Quote from: R-inge on February 14, 2010, 07:56:16 AM
I've received a tip twice, both amounting to a total of $2.  Not really a tipping industry IMO...

What was that? 0.2%?
Title: Re: Car Ramp Thingy
Post by: Rupert on February 14, 2010, 05:46:03 PM
Quote from: VTEC_Inside on February 14, 2010, 09:28:53 AM
No doubt, but it kinda defeats the point of driving it up on ramps if you still don't have enough room to do anything under there.


How much room do you need to change your oil? I don't even jack up the Explorer.
Title: Re: Car Ramp Thingy
Post by: 93JC on February 14, 2010, 06:26:03 PM
It depends on what you're working on. Some cars are quite difficult to work on. The Spirit's front-end was so frigging long that I didn't bother with jackstands or ramps: I'd take off the passenger side wheel. It was the easiest way to get to the drain plug. With the Jeep I didn't need to do anything, it had lots of clearance underneath it.
Title: Re: Car Ramp Thingy
Post by: S204STi on February 14, 2010, 06:35:14 PM
Quote from: Rupert on February 14, 2010, 05:45:26 PM
What was that? 0.2%?

Just over. :lol:
Title: Re: Car Ramp Thingy
Post by: BimmerM3 on February 14, 2010, 06:49:28 PM
Quote from: TurboDan on February 14, 2010, 11:39:42 AM
Come to think of it, does the angle of the ramp affect oil drainage at all?

Depends on where the drain plug is. Mine is at the rear of the oil pan, so if anything, having the front end of the car up would help.

I've thought about getting ramps, but I usually rotate my tires when I change my oil, so there would be no point.
Title: Re: Car Ramp Thingy
Post by: Onslaught on February 15, 2010, 06:06:52 AM
I've got 4 you can have. Can't get either of my cars up them because my bumpers are too low.
Title: Re: Car Ramp Thingy
Post by: r0tor on February 15, 2010, 11:36:24 AM
yup... bought some and they dont work for my car either... and then i tried driving up on 2x4's and then the ramp and it cleared but it was very hard to control the gas/brake/clutch and i became extemely paranoid i was going to overshoot the ramp and really f&ck things up
Title: Re: Car Ramp Thingy
Post by: giant_mtb on February 15, 2010, 12:26:27 PM
If you're worried about overshooting, do a mock set up right next to the vehicle as though the car was on the ramps and put some wheel chocks in front of the rear wheels and place them properly for the real thing. If that makes sense. :mask:
Title: Re: Car Ramp Thingy
Post by: MrH on February 15, 2010, 01:55:48 PM
You can't modulate your clutch enough to inch forward? :confused:
Title: Re: Car Ramp Thingy
Post by: Rupert on February 15, 2010, 02:22:38 PM
That gets tricky when you start on a flat, have to inch uphill for a short ways, and they are suddenly on a flat again.

I mean, I can do it, but it's tricky. ;)
Title: Re: Car Ramp Thingy
Post by: giant_mtb on February 15, 2010, 02:34:34 PM
Quote from: MrH on February 15, 2010, 01:55:48 PM
You can't modulate your clutch enough to inch forward? :confused:

I don't think inching up a 15-20 degree slope onto a flat surface about a foot long with self-destruct written on the other side is something that's exactly "easy" or "relaxing" to do.  I still am extremely cautious and slightly nervous when doing it in my automatic vehicles.   :huh:
Title: Re: Car Ramp Thingy
Post by: Rupert on February 15, 2010, 02:44:26 PM
They should put a chock shape thing at the end of those ramps.
Title: Re: Car Ramp Thingy
Post by: giant_mtb on February 15, 2010, 02:50:33 PM
Quote from: Rupert on February 15, 2010, 02:44:26 PM
They should put a chock shape thing at the end of those ramps.

I think that's what the massive bump is for. :huh:

(http://www.dynateck.co.uk/MAIN/RhinoRamps.jpg)

Plus, most that I've seen have a sort of cup shape for the tire to sit in, so that once you drive onto the ramp, the tire actually "drops" into a stable location, with that guard at the front end to prevent you from going over too easily.
Title: Re: Car Ramp Thingy
Post by: Onslaught on February 15, 2010, 03:38:13 PM
Quote from: r0tor on February 15, 2010, 11:36:24 AM
yup... bought some and they dont work for my car either... and then i tried driving up on 2x4's and then the ramp and it cleared but it was very hard to control the gas/brake/clutch and i became extemely paranoid i was going to overshoot the ramp and really f&ck things up
Well I got mine for free so it was no big deal. One of the guys at work threw them in the metal bin.
They do work for my girlfriends civic. I hate changing the oil in that thing. I'd like to slap Honda.
Title: Re: Car Ramp Thingy
Post by: r0tor on February 15, 2010, 04:47:39 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on February 15, 2010, 02:50:33 PM


Plus, most that I've seen have a sort of cup shape for the tire to sit in, so that once you drive onto the ramp, the tire actually "drops" into a stable location, with that guard at the front end to prevent you from going over too easily.


my tires are too wide to fit in that little cup thingy... they just ride on the outside of the ramp

They seem easy enough to drive up when your just looking at them - completely different ball game when your actually driving up them (especially with a clutch)
Title: Re: Car Ramp Thingy
Post by: VTEC_Inside on February 15, 2010, 04:48:07 PM
Quote from: TurboDan on February 14, 2010, 11:39:42 AM
Come to think of it, does the angle of the ramp affect oil drainage at all?

Both my cars have the drains on the back at about a 45 degree angle. The angle actually helps.
Title: Re: Car Ramp Thingy
Post by: VTEC_Inside on February 15, 2010, 04:50:23 PM
Quote from: Rupert on February 14, 2010, 05:46:03 PM
How much room do you need to change your oil? I don't even jack up the Explorer.

I don't jack up the RSX either, lol... I just drive the front tires up onto a spare set of paving stones I have. Of course I change the oil filter from the top on that car so I'm not really doing much underneath.

But, on my gfs old '92 Integra, I had to forego the creeper and slither under to the point where I could see the oil filter.
Title: Re: Car Ramp Thingy
Post by: Onslaught on February 15, 2010, 05:15:06 PM
Quote from: VTEC_Inside on February 15, 2010, 04:48:07 PM
Both my cars have the drains on the back at about a 45 degree angle. The angle actually helps.

That's another reason I don't use them on the RX-8. For some reason the 09's have the drain on the front of the pan.
Title: Re: Car Ramp Thingy
Post by: hotrodalex on February 15, 2010, 09:17:53 PM
I had to jack up The Road about 2 feet in the air when I changed the oil. The filter was stuck as could be and I couldn't get any leverage. Didn't help that I busted a weld on my filter remover tool either.
Title: Re: Car Ramp Thingy
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on February 15, 2010, 09:22:32 PM
I've never driven over the ramps, but on numerous occasions, they shot out from in front of the car, with the wheels spinning trying to get up, and banged into the wall of the garage/my work bench. Slippery garage floor + metal ramps = dumb. At some point, I decided to put scrap carpet padding under the ramps and that worked pretty guud.
Title: Re: Car Ramp Thingy
Post by: Rupert on February 15, 2010, 10:23:19 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on February 15, 2010, 02:50:33 PM
I think that's what the massive bump is for. :huh:

(http://www.dynateck.co.uk/MAIN/RhinoRamps.jpg)

Plus, most that I've seen have a sort of cup shape for the tire to sit in, so that once you drive onto the ramp, the tire actually "drops" into a stable location, with that guard at the front end to prevent you from going over too easily.


Mine don't have that? I don't think they do...
Title: Re: Car Ramp Thingy
Post by: giant_mtb on February 15, 2010, 10:59:24 PM
Quote from: Rupert on February 15, 2010, 10:23:19 PM
Mine don't have that? I don't think they do...

Sounds like you need some new ramps. :devil:
Title: Re: Car Ramp Thingy
Post by: Rupert on February 16, 2010, 12:33:53 AM
Psh.
Title: Re: Car Ramp Thingy
Post by: Byteme on February 16, 2010, 06:31:30 AM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on February 15, 2010, 09:22:32 PM
I've never driven over the ramps, but on numerous occasions, they shot out from in front of the car, with the wheels spinning trying to get up, and banged into the wall of the garage/my work bench. Slippery garage floor + metal ramps = dumb. At some point, I decided to put scrap carpet padding under the ramps and that worked pretty guud.

Go back and look at the picture I posted on the first page of this topic.  That will stop your ramps from sliding around.
Title: Re: Car Ramp Thingy
Post by: VTEC_Inside on February 16, 2010, 08:59:55 AM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on February 15, 2010, 09:22:32 PM
I've never driven over the ramps, but on numerous occasions, they shot out from in front of the car, with the wheels spinning trying to get up, and banged into the wall of the garage/my work bench. Slippery garage floor + metal ramps = dumb. At some point, I decided to put scrap carpet padding under the ramps and that worked pretty guud.

That's another plus with the rhino ramps, they have a solid rubber foot just under the leading edge of the ramp. As soon as any pressure is on the ramp they pretty much stay put. Granted I've only ever used them on asphalt.

Title: Re: Car Ramp Thingy
Post by: AutobahnSHO on February 16, 2010, 09:40:01 PM
Quote from: EtypeJohn on February 14, 2010, 10:58:57 AM
I've got a set of metal ramps I really like.  Whatever you buy make sure they are sturdy. Two other points to check on.

That's the sweetest garage ever.

And can you imagine carmakers making the underside of the car (red Jag) that beautiful anymores???
Title: Re: Car Ramp Thingy
Post by: Byteme on February 19, 2010, 06:31:43 AM
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on February 16, 2010, 09:40:01 PM
That's the sweetest garage ever.

And can you imagine carmakers making the underside of the car (red Jag) that beautiful anymores???

Thanks.

No, you hardly saw it when those cars were being built.  Most finished panels ended at the bumper line or the valance panel below the bumper.
Title: Re: Car Ramp Thingy
Post by: sportyaccordy on February 20, 2010, 05:58:17 AM
Big jack + jack stands work for me

My car would never ever ever ever ever make it up a ramp. You need something with decent ground clearance and minimal overhang (like a BMW or something)
Title: Re: Car Ramp Thingy
Post by: Rupert on February 20, 2010, 01:20:05 PM
My Miata went up ramps fine.