These cars aren't necessarily bad, but something has happened to make you hate them.
My nomination:
S13 240SX.
(http://www.niot.net/niot_570/nissan_240_sx_niot.net.jpg%20(15).jpg)
I am so tired of the ricers who have no imagination and buy a rusted out S13 with a primered and bondoed Silvia facia in hopes to make a SilEighty. In reality, they have a meidocre RWD coupe that is useless in snow, rusts if you look at it wrong, and is generally cramped.
Everytime I see one, I just want to take a brick to the windshield.
Next car:
2000-Death Cavalier.
(http://www.chevroletclub.net/graphics/gallery/full/346_Cavalier1.jpg)
Seriously, WHY did you buy this car!? It clearly is the old one with an ugly nose and those same old as ever mechanicals. You really didn't notice that it drives terribly and a comparable Civic or even Elantra were much better cars?
Quote from: 2o6 on March 23, 2010, 05:54:00 PM
These cars aren't necessarily bad, but something has happened to make you hate them.
My nomination:
S13 240SX.
I am so tired of the ricers who have no imagination and buy a rusted out S13 with a primered and bondoed Silvia facia in hopes to make a SilEighty. In reality, they have a meidocre RWD coupe that is useless in snow, rusts if you look at it wrong, mediocre handling and is generally cramped.
Everytime I see one, I just want to take a brick to the windshield.
You are an idiot. The Silvias all handled well above average.
Quote from: 2o6 on March 23, 2010, 05:59:52 PM
Seriously, WHY did you buy this car!? It clearly is the old one with an ugly nose and those same old as ever mechanicals. You really didn't notice that it drives terribly and a comparable Civic or even Elantra were much better cars?
Now I won't argue that this is a shitty shitty car, but rebates + price + cheap parts make it a relatively economical choice. Esp. if you bought one used.
Quote from: SVT_Power on March 23, 2010, 06:02:23 PM
You are an idiot. The Silvias all handled well above average.
I just don't like them. Ok?
Quote from: 2o6 on March 23, 2010, 06:06:08 PM
I just don't like them. Ok?
Sure you can say you don't like them, but don't start making up reasons as to why they're bad :huh:
Quote from: SVT_Power on March 23, 2010, 06:18:36 PM
Sure you can say you don't like them, but don't start making up reasons as to why they're bad :huh:
Fixed.
Quote from: SVT_Power on March 23, 2010, 06:02:23 PM
You are an idiot. The Silvias all handled well above average.
Weren't that bad in the snow, either. I drove one year round... in Upstate NY... without snow tires.
They weren't that cramped, either. No moreso than a Celica, Integra, or Eclipse of that time period. Hell, I think it was roomier than the current Camaro in every way but cabin width. Definitely more headroom, despite the Camaro being a full half a foot taller.
Neon.
Aveo, especially the hatch. That car is dreadful.
Quote from: 2o6 on March 23, 2010, 05:54:00 PM
(http://www.niot.net/niot_570/nissan_240_sx_niot.net.jpg%20(15).jpg)
That's a good car. It was the only one from Japan back then in that class that was RWD here in the US. While you feel that some of the people who have them are a little off, it's not fair to hold that against the car.
Quote from: Onslaught on March 23, 2010, 06:49:56 PM
That's a good car. It was the only one from Japan back then in that class that was RWD here in the US. While you feel that some of the people who have them are a little off, it's not fair to hold that against the car.
Plus it'll take a SR20DETT...
Quote from: Onslaught on March 23, 2010, 06:49:56 PM
That's a good car. It was the only one from Japan back then in that class that was RWD here in the US. While you feel that some of the people who have them are a little off, it's not fair to hold that against the car.
I liked the S14 a lot.
I don't really have time to hate a car anymore. I can list some that I'd never own or can't stand working on.
Any Dodge. Why? Every person I've known who had one had lots of problems. I'm talking big problems like having 3 transmissions in less than 4 years.I don't trust them.
Ford Ranger and Mazda B trucks that are nothing bu Rangers. Why? I can't stand the way they drive. I know it's a truck and not a Lexus but even by small truck standards it's bad. Even worse with the twin I-beam. I also can't stand working on them.
1980's and 90's Mustangs. Why? I can't stand working on them. I found them cheaply made. The convertibles are a joke. Try working on a frame that bends when you look at it wrong.
Solstice and Sky. Why? No logical reason. I think they are both ugly. I think the tops are a joke. And it's probably just like a Mustang fan not liking a Camaro. An MX-5 person just won't like them.
Quote from: the Teuton on March 23, 2010, 06:47:02 PM
Aveo, especially the hatch. That car is dreadful.
It's underrated.
Nissan Versa
(http://blogs.cars.com/photos/mother_proof_october/2008versasedan500.jpg)
I don't care how many accolades you give it, it's dull and ugly. It's the reason the US can't have nice things. We keep buying dull cars like these.
Buick Century
(http://www.automedia.com/NewCarBuyersGuide/photos/2005/Buick/Century/Sedan/2005_Buick_Century_ext_1.jpg)
I didn't think it was possible to be this geriatric.
Chevrolet Lumina
(http://www.gmphotostore.com/images/53217110_pr.jpg)
It looks nice, but the rest isn't that nice. I hate them moreso because my parents and brother thinks that they're good cars. They want me to get some sort of GM midsizer.
Why do I love every car that 2o6 hates?
Quote from: MX793 on March 23, 2010, 07:04:05 PM
Figures...
I like the larger, fluffy-looking car better.
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on March 23, 2010, 07:10:53 PM
Why do I love every car that 2o6 hates?
You like the Cavalier!?
Quote from: 2o6 on March 23, 2010, 07:11:28 PM
I like the larger, fluffy-looking car better.
You like the Cavalier!?
No.
I love the Cavalier.
ChrisV shows up and rapes you all in 5, 4, 3...
2...
Quote from: Onslaught on March 23, 2010, 07:00:54 PM
I don't really have time to hate a car anymore. I can list some that I'd never own or can't stand working on.
Any Dodge. Why? Every person I've known who had one had lots of problems. I'm talking big problems like having 3 transmissions in less than 4 years.I don't trust them.
Ford Ranger and Mazda B trucks that are nothing bu Rangers. Why? I can't stand the way they drive. I know it's a truck and not a Lexus but even by small truck standards it's bad. Even worse with the twin I-beam. I also can't stand working on them.
1980's and 90's Mustangs. Why? I can't stand working on them. I found them cheaply made. The convertibles are a joke. Try working on a frame that bends when you look at it wrong.
Solstice and Sky. Why? No logical reason. I think they are both ugly. I think the tops are a joke. And it's probably just like a Mustang fan not liking a Camaro. An MX-5 person just won't like them.
I think that's a good perspective. I don't really hate much either, but there are certainly cars which reside on the bottom of my list.
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on March 23, 2010, 07:10:53 PM
Why do I love every car that 2o6 hates?
All those cars slept with his girlfriend. He's very angry.
And the Century is a nice ride.
Quote from: ifcar on March 23, 2010, 07:04:26 PM
It's underrated.
That's ridiculous. Of course, you hate enthusiasm.
Oh yeah, another one: BMW X3.
The only thing I can think of is the utter hypocrisy of sport-hybrid SUVs. But I'm not really sure it's the car's fault.
Quote from: R-inge on March 23, 2010, 06:53:15 PM
Plus it'll take a SR20DETT...
It's a shame that US models were saddled with a truck motor. I still like the S13 and S14 an awful lot though. Not enough to pay the drift tax though.
There's nothing wrong with the KA.
Quote from: 2o6 on March 23, 2010, 08:52:13 PM
There's nothing wrong with the KA.
Yeah, my friend's had more than 260k on the original motor...but it was a dog of a motor.
Quote from: The Pirate on March 23, 2010, 08:48:34 PM
It's a shame that US models were saddled with a truck motor. I still like the S13 and S14 an awful lot though. Not enough to pay the drift tax though.
Lol @ drift tax
I love the 240, but for the money I'd much rather a 3 series
Quote from: 2o6 on March 23, 2010, 07:10:21 PM
Buick Century
(http://www.automedia.com/NewCarBuyersGuide/photos/2005/Buick/Century/Sedan/2005_Buick_Century_ext_1.jpg)
I didn't think it was possible to be this geriatric.
(http://images01.olx.com/ui/1/91/98/3468398_1.jpg)
This thread is a fail.
I despise the Toyota Corolla with a passion. I have to keep my mouth shut around a lot of people I know because they have Corollas and love them, and just once I'd love to tell them my honest feelings about the Corolla. It's the most boring, overrated car in the world. The only reason people buy them is the reputation of the Toyota brand, which may not seem more loathsome than, say, someone buying a BMW, but the guy buying a beemer is flaunting wealth while a guy driving a Corolla likes to think they're smarter than the average bear for buying such a dependable car.
I also hate the Corolla because the interior quality is mediocre and it drives like a Camry, which is about as close to a stereotypical wallowy '70s land yacht as you can get these days.
I hate the Matrix/Vibe too, for most of the same reasons as the Corolla and the added bonus of having awful seating and ergonomics.
Quote from: 2o6 on March 23, 2010, 08:52:13 PM
There's nothing wrong with the KA.
Have you driven a car with the KA? It's slow to rev, runs out of steam early in the rev range, rough, and not terribly fuel efficient. That being said, it's very robust, reliable, and inexpensive to keep running. But it's not a hi-po motor.
(http://www.dragtimes.com/images/7851-2004-Dodge-Stratus.jpg)
Buncha Viper wannabes.
Quote from: 2o6 on March 23, 2010, 07:10:21 PM
Nissan Versa
(http://blogs.cars.com/photos/mother_proof_october/2008versasedan500.jpg)
I don't care how many accolades you give it, it's dull and ugly. It's the reason the US can't have nice things. We keep buying dull cars like these.
it's the perfect car for someone who doesn't care about cars. and there are plenty of people who don't.
I hate the Hummer H2 for reasons that are plainly obvious (minus the eco-weenie shit).
I also *dislike* the Prius for reasons that also are plainly obvious. But mostly because of their stereotypical owners. Finding out that they don't know how to stop their cars is just icing on the cake.
Quote from: Vinsanity on March 23, 2010, 11:27:41 PM
it's the perfect car for someone who doesn't care about cars. and there are plenty of people who don't.
Let's be honest, the Versa is a
better car than people make it out to be. It's an amazingly capable, comfortable compact people mover. It's no sports car, though.
I honestly can't think of a car right now that I truly hate. There are a lot that I dislike or that I just feel apathy towards, but I don't think any that I really hate.
Quote from: BimmerM3 on March 23, 2010, 11:55:08 PM
I honestly can't think of a car right now that I truly hate. There are a lot that I dislike or that I just feel apathy towards, but I don't think any that I really hate.
BMW X3. Srsly.
Quote from: the Teuton on March 23, 2010, 08:18:39 PM
That's ridiculous. Of course, you hate enthusiasm.
It's underrated compared to equally dull competition.
I have cars that are not my favorites, but I can't picture hating any car as a brand or model. Now, individual examples, especially mistreated ones that you are trying to fix and nothing fits properly or comes off like it's supposed to, yeah (and sometimes I think the world would be a better place if engineers had to work on or repair the crap they've engineered...). I've had individual examples of cars that I ended up hating, and other examples of the same car that I thoroughly enjoyed.
And all cars have potential. How they arrive in mass produced, compromised production form is just a starting place.
Also I'd NEVER use what some owners are like as a reason to dislike (or like) a car. That's just stupid.
I can't say I really HATE too many cars. So few anyway that I can only think of two. The rest I'm just indifferent to.
Toyota Yaris
I really do fucking hate this car. I hate everything about it. I hate it so much I was drove it as fast I could one day just to get to my destination and get out. Unfortunately I was stopped by a cop who asked why I was going so fast and I told him, "I fucking hate this car and I can't wait to get out". I guess he had never heard that one before because he let me go with a warning and a laugh. I was serious though.
Yaris, Lexus RX, Jeep Compass
Those are 3 I don't like at all. There are more but I'm too lazy to think of them.
Why does everyone hate the Yaris? I think it's a well-done small car.
Quote from: the Teuton on March 23, 2010, 08:53:22 PM
Yeah, my friend's had more than 260k on the original motor...but it was a dog of a motor.
The single cams were kind of gutless. The twin cam in the '91 wasn't bad, especially when compared to other, similar cars on the market at that time. It was still kind of course and thrashy sounding north of 5K RPM and it still fell flat about 1000 rpm shy of redline, but the power was decent.
Quote from: 2o6 on March 24, 2010, 02:33:50 PM
Why does everyone hate the Yaris? I think it's a well-done small car.
Blech. It's well-done in the sense one can expect it to move under its own power, but other than that...
Quote from: 2o6 on March 24, 2010, 02:33:50 PM
Why does everyone hate the Yaris? I think it's a well-done small car.
apparently not as well-done as the Versa
Quote from: Vinsanity on March 24, 2010, 03:26:00 PM
apparently not as well-done as the Versa
It's more fuel-efficient. That means a lot to many people.
Nissan Murano and every Toyota currantly for sale in the USA come to mind.
I hate Seat cars in general. They always drive extremely aggressive and try to race me. Particularly on track days I can always count on a prick in a Seat Leon Cupra not to yield when I catch him. Cheap VW's. that's what they are.
Quote from: 2o6 on March 24, 2010, 02:33:50 PM
Why does everyone hate the Yaris? I think it's a well-done small car.
How can you say that after what you said about the Versa?
I also hate Audis but that's more of like a rivalry in the way I hate the Cleveland Browns/Baltimore Ravens/Cincinatti Bangals being a Steelers' fan. However for some reason I don't hate Merc or other luxury brands.
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on March 24, 2010, 09:58:34 PM
How can you say that after what you said about the Versa?
I said the Versa was dull. I didn't say it was bad.
4-cylinder Altimas. I don't know why.
Quote from: CALL_911 on March 24, 2010, 10:37:05 PM
4-cylinder Altimas. I don't know why.
I really want a 3.5 Spec V.
Quote from: 2o6 on March 24, 2010, 02:33:50 PM
Why does everyone hate the Yaris? I think it's a well-done small car.
I think you're a little too well done.
The Yaris sucks hugely. I mean, it's a decent little car, but it just sucks. There's no driving engagement, there's no brake feel, no steering feel, no feel of anything. And the center mounted gauges are stupid. It is fairly roomy on the inside, though.
Quote from: 2o6 on March 24, 2010, 10:17:55 PM
I said the Versa was dull. I didn't say it was bad.
What, and the Yaris is the epitome of excitement?
For the record, my mom "kind of liked" her Versa rental car and absolutely despised her Yaris rental car.
Quote from: BimmerM3 on March 25, 2010, 02:18:31 PM
What, and the Yaris is the epitome of excitement?
For the record, my mom "kind of liked" her Versa rental car and absolutely despised her Yaris rental car.
This is because the Versa is a bomb-ass little car. Every Yaris I've ever driven smells funny...and I don't think it has anything to do with past renters because they all smell the same.
My grandmother (drives an Azera) liked her Versa rental, too. It took a bit of time for me to figure out what car she had rented, but she recognized the name when I said it.
Honda CRV.
Millions love this vehicle. To me , especially the current model, it epitomizes the generation when Honda decided that its once scrappy little car division has decided to go vanilla on the world. It's well built, spacious and good fuel economy for its size, but its soooooooooooooo blaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand. The mindset is leaking into other cars in the lineup now too. The older model CRV's ( and a few others ) just feel like they have more life to them. Even with much less power.
Quote from: CJ on March 25, 2010, 01:46:09 PM
I mean, it's a decent little car, but it just sucks.
I just thought that was worth quoting. :lol:
Quote from: giant_mtb on March 23, 2010, 09:47:16 PM
(http://www.dragtimes.com/images/7851-2004-Dodge-Stratus.jpg)
Buncha Viper wannabes.
What's that? Looks like a Monaro/Pontiac GTO, though I don't think it is.
One of my pet hates.
(http://www.audinationwide.co.uk/news/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/a3-cabriolet-side-white.jpg)
In fact I can't stand most of the lower powered A3s, they smack of someone buying a car solely for the badge.
Quote from: nickdrinkwater on March 27, 2010, 06:58:32 AM
What's that? Looks like a Monaro/Pontiac GTO, though I don't think it is.
A Mitsubishi Eclipse-based Dodge Stratus coupe, 2001-2006 generation. There definitely is a lot of GTO in the roofline now that you mention it.
Quote from: nickdrinkwater on March 27, 2010, 07:02:18 AM
One of my pet hates.
(http://www.audinationwide.co.uk/news/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/a3-cabriolet-side-white.jpg)
In fact I can't stand most of the lower powered A3s, they smack of someone buying a car solely for the badge.
Is that an A3 cabrio? Does it come with the 2.0T and quattro?
Quote from: nickdrinkwater on March 27, 2010, 06:58:32 AM
What's that? Looks like a Monaro/Pontiac GTO, though I don't think it is.
As Iffy said, it's a Dodge Stratus. I drove a friend of mine's, and it was pretty much a heaping pile of shit. Of course, he likes it, so I didn't tell him that.
The cut the handle off the VW Bitch Basket and slapped an Audi badge on it!
I really hate the CRV, new Accords (hell every single one of the new Hondas), most Toyotas, 525/8i's, C240's, and that's all I care to think about now.
Mercedes GLK
Mercedes GLK
Mercedes GLK
Mercedes GLK
Mercedes GLK
Some of the most wretched driving I've seen in the past few years has been from folks driving these. They are the official SUV of Morons That Don't Have A Clue. That, and they are really nasty looking, like a taller Dodge Caliber.
(http://www.autofans.us/images/Mercedes-Benz/Mercedes%20GLK%20Undisguised%20on%20the%20Set%20of%20Sex%20and%20the%20City%201.jpg)
Disgusting!
Quote from: Colonel Cadillac on March 27, 2010, 01:17:41 PM
I really hate the CRV, new Accords (hell every single one of the new Hondas), most Toyotas, 525/8i's, C240's, and that's all I care to think about now.
528is? They're not really that slow anymore....
I'm also not sure that an otherwise good car should be under the "hate" category when all that's missing is a few horsepower.
Quote from: BimmerM3 on April 01, 2010, 01:58:54 PM
I'm also not sure that an otherwise good car should be under the "hate" category when all that's missing is a few horsepower.
True that.
Quote from: Laconian on March 31, 2010, 10:13:29 PM
Mercedes GLK
Mercedes GLK
Mercedes GLK
Mercedes GLK
Mercedes GLK
Some of the most wretched driving I've seen in the past few years has been from folks driving these. They are the official SUV of Morons That Don't Have A Clue. That, and they are really nasty looking, like a taller Dodge Caliber.
Disgusting!
Heh i think it looks decent. My mom's wanted one for a while now. I drove one at the autoshow, it actually handles decently for what it is
I like the GLK. It's so damn small though...you really have to wonder what the point of an SUV that small is.
I've only ever seen one GLK but wasn't impressed. Like Raza says it's so small and has barely any ground clearance. Plus it's downright ugly compared to the Q5.
I think it's one of the more blatant cases of cars that you buy for the badge.
Quote from: Raza on April 02, 2010, 07:20:46 AM
I like the GLK. It's so damn small though...you really have to wonder what the point of an SUV that small is.
I have a hard time even considering it an SUV. It's more of a compact tall wagon, like a 1st gen Forrester (only perhaps smaller), than an SUV.
Quote from: Laconian on April 02, 2010, 10:57:10 AM
I think it's one of the more blatant cases of cars that you buy for the badge.
It's built real well, it handles nicely (for a small 'SUV') it's got a good engine, and it's got more room than a C-sedan. I don't see what's bad about it. :huh:
I'd probably go with a Q5, but then again, I've only driven a Q5 for a total of 30 seconds...so...
Quote from: MX793 on April 02, 2010, 11:13:45 AM
I have a hard time even considering it an SUV. It's more of a compact tall wagon, like a 1st gen Forrester (only perhaps smaller), than an SUV.
It
looks like a Forester.
If you think the GLK small, wait until you see the X1 in the flesh. It is basically a 5% larger 3 series touring.
Oh yeah, I no longer hate the Caliber. I positively tolerate it.
The 2009 model, however... (http://planetsmilies.net/vomit-smiley-31.gif)
Jakob reminded me, I really hate Saturns, particularly the 90s plasticars. Sorry dude. :lol:
Quote from: R-inge on April 03, 2010, 07:52:44 AM
Jakob reminded me, I really hate Saturns, particularly the 90s plasticars. Sorry dude. :lol:
I do too. Some of the worst cars I've ever worked on. The very definition of disposable cars. You ever had to take the outer door panel off one after it had got a few years old? What a joke.
I like how older cars just sort of shatter when they get hit.
Quote from: R-inge on April 03, 2010, 09:35:33 AM
I like how older cars just sort of shatter when they get hit.
Well they have plastic panels that get very brittle over time bolted together with bolts and J-nuts that rust like they've been in the ocean. So when you try and take it apart then things just snap left and right. I have to say that it's just shit. Only way you can work on anything in the inside of the door is to take the outer panel off and not the interior one like a normal car. So after a few years it's almost impossible to work on. That and they just feel so fucking cheap.
Y'all be haters.
Luckily, I have manual door locks and manual windows, so I r0xx0rs.
I still believe in the power of plasticar.
My brother's would have needed a big dent repaired if it wasn't plastic.
Quote from: hotrodalex on April 04, 2010, 01:53:13 PM
I still believe in the power of plasticar.
My brother's would have needed a big dent repaired if it wasn't plastic.
I respect your awesomeness, Alex. I still want your BMW, though.
Quote from: the Teuton on April 04, 2010, 01:56:33 PM
I respect your awesomeness, Alex. I still want your BMW, though.
It's not crappy enough for a college kid yet. :ohyeah:
It's still pristine at 100k miles (though mostly easy highway cruising).
Quote from: hotrodalex on April 05, 2010, 07:33:13 PM
It's not crappy enough for a college kid yet. :ohyeah:
It's still pristine at 100k miles (though mostly easy highway cruising).
Mine was pristine until I assumed ownership of it in a college neighborhood.
Quote from: the Teuton on April 05, 2010, 07:49:59 PM
Mine was pristine until I assumed ownership of it in a college neighborhood.
The original owner of my car kept it in a heated garage and didn't drive in bad weather. Poor thing then came to my house, sat in the driveway for a week, and got a couple inches of snow dumped on it. :lol:
Quote from: Submariner on April 02, 2010, 11:49:18 AM
It's built real well, it handles nicely (for a small 'SUV') it's got a good engine, and it's got more room than a C-sedan. I don't see what's bad about it. :huh:
I'd probably go with a Q5, but then again, I've only driven a Q5 for a total of 30 seconds...so...
All attributes which the Q5 offers.
I don't see the point of buying a GLK over something like a Honda CR-V. They're both ugly as fuck but at least the Honda is cheaper.
Quote from: nickdrinkwater on April 06, 2010, 03:28:43 PM
All attributes which the Q5 offers.
I don't see the point of buying a GLK over something like a Honda CR-V. They're both ugly as fuck but at least the Honda is cheaper.
Yeah, but then you'd have to own a CRV ( my nomination for a vehicle
I hate. ) Maybe there's still the cool picnic table...
Quote from: nickdrinkwater on April 06, 2010, 03:28:43 PM
All attributes which the Q5 offers.
I don't see the point of buying a GLK over something like a Honda CR-V. They're both ugly as fuck but at least the Honda is cheaper.
Well, the GLK has ~100 more HP and probably doesn't drive like shit (I've heard the CR-V does).
Now, replace "Honda CR-V" with "Kia Sorento" and you have a good point.
No hate... just cars I wouldn't consider buying, even at a huge discount:
Honda Accord, all Acuras. I used to love them, but the styling offends me on all these cars.
All Toyotas. Except for the FJ and Tacoma and Tundra trucks.
All Lexuses (Lexii?) Rather any comparable Audi or BMW, or Infiniti.
Hyundai Genesis Coupe. Great car, hate the styling, Mustang eats it.
Dodge Sebring/Avenger and Caliber. Ugh.
Jeep Compass. The other Jeeps, including the Patriot, I like.
BMW 1 series. Overpriced pot-bellied pig.
All Lincolns. Much prettier/better cars for the money.
Most Nissans, except the 370z and Maxima. Love the Infinitis.
Ford F-series trucks. Never liked them. Not sure why.
Quote from: Rockraven on April 09, 2010, 05:11:00 PM
BMW 1 series. Overpriced pot-bellied pig.
Thanks, I now know what it looks like. I knew it looked like an ugly animal but couldn't put my finger on it.
Quote from: Rockraven on April 09, 2010, 05:11:00 PM
No hate... just cars I wouldn't consider buying, even at a huge discount:
BMW 1 series. Overpriced pot-bellied pig.
Compared to the other RWD 5 door compact hatchbacks in the market?
You don't pay for BMWs by the pound. Just because it's smaller doesn't mean they made it any cheaper.
Quote from: Onslaught on April 09, 2010, 05:39:24 PM
Thanks, I now know what it looks like. I knew it looked like an ugly animal but couldn't put my finger on it.
:lol: From now on I will refer to it as The Pot Bellied Pig.
Quote from: 280Z Turbo on April 09, 2010, 06:49:15 PM
Compared to the other RWD 5 door compact hatchbacks in the market?
You don't pay for BMWs by the pound. Just because it's smaller doesn't mean they made it any cheaper.
That's nice. It's still ugly as sin.
Quote from: Rockraven on April 09, 2010, 07:18:03 PM
That's nice. It's still ugly as sin.
I must be lookin' at a different car. It's not the prettiest, but it's not ugly.
Quote from: 280Z Turbo on April 09, 2010, 06:49:15 PM
Compared to the other RWD 5 door compact hatchbacks in the market?
You don't pay for BMWs by the pound. Just because it's smaller doesn't mean they made it any cheaper.
You can't get a hatch here.
The Hatch looks decent. The Coupe looks like an overstyled Datsun 510.
Quote from: 2o6 on April 09, 2010, 10:10:51 PM
You can't get a hatch here.
The Hatch looks decent. The Coupe looks like an overstyled Datsun 510.
:wub:
Quote from: 2o6 on April 09, 2010, 10:10:51 PM
The Coupe looks like an overstyled Datsun 510.
Or BMW 2002 (the car that the 510 was modeled after).
Quote from: MX793 on April 10, 2010, 11:14:18 AM
Or BMW 2002 (the car that the 510 was modeled after).
But the 2002 and 510 didn't look ugly.
Quote from: hotrodalex on April 09, 2010, 09:30:20 PM
I must be lookin' at a different car. It's not the prettiest, but it's not ugly.
Agreed. My buddy's sitting out in the parking lot looks pretty damn good (and goes like stink, too).
Heh, I think the 1 series looks great...possibly the best looking current BMW.
My original objections to the 1-Series still hold. I think it looks too small for it's styling, like it's been shrink-wrapped or something; however, I no longer think it looks unattractive, merely less attractive than the rest of BMW's lineup.
Everything about the 1er is good except for its price, especially when you can get a (relatively) loaded Mini Cooper S for less than a base 128i.
Quote from: the Teuton on April 12, 2010, 01:47:51 PM
Everything about the 1er is good except for its price, especially when you can get a (relatively) loaded Mini Cooper S for less than a base 128i.
Including FWD. Oh, wait.
Quote from: Raza link=topic=21596.msg1306406#msg1306406 date=1271097891
Heh, I think the 1 series looks great...possibly the best looking current BMW.
The best looking current BMW is the Z4.
My order of preference goes like this (not including the crossovers):
1. Z4
BIG GAP!
2. 3 Series/M3
3. 5 Series
4. 1 Series
5. 7 Series
6. 6 Series
Quote from: SVT666 on April 12, 2010, 02:35:26 PM
The best looking current BMW is the Z4.
See, I don't like the new Z4's styling.
I do. I think the chick that designed the car did an outstanding job. Same for the woman that did the interior. My gripe is that it's WAY too expensive. As a higher end Miata/S2k alternative, the Z3 and early Z4 was a great car. As an SL/XK8 alternative? Not so much.
Quote from: ChrisV on April 12, 2010, 05:32:21 PM
I do. I think the chick that designed the car did an outstanding job. Same for the woman that did the interior. My gripe is that it's WAY too expensive. As a higher end Miata/S2k alternative, the Z3 and early Z4 was a great car. As an SL/XK8 alternative? Not so much.
I couldn't agree more. I like how it takes a lot of its styling cues from the GINA concept, but starting at $46,000 is WAY too much for a non-turbo model, even if it has a folding hardtop.
That said, it's more of an SLK/Boxter competitor than SL/XK. The SL starts at over $100k and the XK starts at $83k.
Quote from: BimmerM3 on April 12, 2010, 06:43:51 PM
That said, it's more of an SLK/Boxter competitor than SL/XK. The SL starts at over $100k and the XK starts at $83k.
Both of which are now too expensive, as well. Sorry, $50-$60k for an entry level sports car from any of those companies is WAAAY off the deep end.
Quote from: ChrisV on April 13, 2010, 10:43:13 AM
Both of which are now too expensive, as well. Sorry, $50-$60k for an entry level sports car from any of those companies is WAAAY off the deep end.
It expensive. But I just priced out a Z convert for 47K. So 50K for a Porsche isn't all that bad then.
Quote from: Raza on April 12, 2010, 04:47:52 PM
See, I don't like the new Z4's styling.
The best Z in recent memory was the tin-roof Z4:
(http://liveimages.carsales.com.au/private/carpoint/7757786.jpg)
(http://liveimages.carsales.com.au/private/carpoint/7730064.jpg)
A brilliant, brilliant car. I've only ever seen one in person at the Classic Adelaide Rally one year, and was bowled over by the taut, muscular stance of the thing.
I drove the M version of that car. I would die a happy man if I owned one, sans the fact that the rear window is next to useless in the real world.
A 315 hp Z3 M Coupe or Roadster would probably suit me a little better.
Quote from: 2o6 on March 23, 2010, 05:59:52 PM
Next car:
2000-Death Cavalier.
(http://www.chevroletclub.net/graphics/gallery/full/346_Cavalier1.jpg)
Seriously, WHY did you buy this car!? It clearly is the old one with an ugly nose and those same old as ever mechanicals. You really didn't notice that it drives terribly and a comparable Civic or even Elantra were much better cars?
Yeah, it seems every Cavalier I see (or hear) sounds like crap.
I've never been a fan of Dodge (sorry, fans--I'm sure you don't like a lot of brands). Most Chrysler products have that same ticky-sounding hum when they get going. What the hell is that? Basically, if I'm not looking, and I hear it, I know it's a Chrysler product. Not that it makes it a bad vehicle, really, I guess.