If you were to sell your car, right now, what would you replace it with? You can throw in a little bit of savings, or you can simply take the value of your cars and buy another car (or put a downpayment)
Top five choices, and why.
u 1st
Today? With today's money? With how much savings?
My next car won't be another $800 beater. I'm thinking something upwards of $3,000-5,000 at the very least.
Quote from: the Teuton on July 09, 2010, 10:10:03 PM
Today? With today's money? With how much savings?
My next car won't be another $800 beater. I'm thinking something upwards of $3,000-5,000 at the very least.
Want a 2004 Outback Sedan? $3000
Quote from: 68_427 on July 09, 2010, 10:11:45 PM
Want a 2004 Outback Sedan? $3000
With a schtick? If so, count me in for your lesbian sedan. :rockon:
Not a huge fan of the 4EAT, but I've driven my oldie and a new Impreza, and it's really none too terrible at all. They smoothed the hell out of the shifts for that thing.
If I could get $900 from my Neon, combine it with roughly $1,200 (March, I should have this much) I'm looking at 2K to play with. (I'm strongly considering this......)
1. Focus, looks great, cheap drives well.
2. Cougar - See focus.
3. Maxima - Fast, effortless, very large
4. 2nd Gen Neon - I like my neon, and I like the fact that gen 2's are less disposable
5. Chrysler PT - Roomy, fun.
I hear Gloria James is pretty cheap to purchase, too.
Yeah, I just went there.
Quote from: the Teuton on July 09, 2010, 10:13:35 PM
With a schtick? If so, count me in for your lesbian sedan. :rockon:
Not a huge fan of the 4EAT, but I've driven my oldie and a new Impreza, and it's really none too terrible at all. They smoothed the hell out of the shifts for that thing.
No, sorry.
Quote from: 68_427 on July 09, 2010, 10:18:05 PM
No, sorry.
Still, I'd love your lesbian mobile for $3k. That's a fantastic price.
Quote from: the Teuton on July 09, 2010, 10:15:13 PM
I hear Gloria James is pretty cheap to purchase, too.
Yeah, I just went there.
Heck, I can make a profit, just give her baking soda!
Quote from: 2o6 on July 09, 2010, 10:21:33 PM
Heck, I can make a profit, just give her baking soda!
I want to ask, but I don't want to ask...
But I'm glad we agree.
NB Miata
Quote from: the Teuton on July 09, 2010, 10:22:49 PM
I want to ask, but I don't want to ask...
But I'm glad we agree.
She's a crackhead.
Quote from: 2o6 on July 09, 2010, 10:26:42 PM
She's a crackhead.
:ohyeah:
Great upbringing her son had...
Quote from: the Teuton on July 09, 2010, 10:32:03 PM
:ohyeah:
Great upbringing her son had...
His aunt lives down the street from me.
If I had the money today and weren't planning on buying in 2012 instead, here'd be the list (2012 level cars, only now):
1) early E46 BMW 3 Series
2) Subaru Legacy or Impreza
3) Saturn Astra 3-door (probably pick up a small car payment)
4) Honda Accord 5-speed sedan that isn't too junky
5) 2002ish Infiniti G20 (were they made then?)
Quote from: 2o6 on July 09, 2010, 10:28:41 PM
Sell all three, get an NC.
Selling all three would leave me with maybe $2000 cash, if I'm lucky. That's a beat up automatic NA.
Quote from: 2o6 on July 09, 2010, 10:35:12 PM
His aunt lives down the street from me.
Does she have the same trashy set of morals?
Quote from: the Teuton on July 09, 2010, 10:39:59 PM
Does she have the same trashy set of morals?
She just getting her meal ticket and driving a fully loaded Sebring.
Quote from: 2o6 on July 09, 2010, 10:41:15 PM
She just getting her meal ticket and driving a fully loaded Sebring.
I guess that's the least her nephew could do for her.
You know he backed out of buying that Carrera GT that was in Canton (made the front of the Rep), right? I think it was because he realized upon ordering it that he couldn't drive 6-speed. But that was 2006ish.
Quote from: the Teuton on July 09, 2010, 10:20:22 PM
Still, I'd love your lesbian mobile for $3k. That's a fantastic price.
145K miles. Starting to rust, slight body damage, possible chassis damage, bad paint, check engine light, and new timing belt soon.
1. 2006 Cadillac CTS-V
2. 2008 Infiniti G37 coupe
3. ~2006 BMW E46 convertible
4. 2007 BMW E92 coupe
5. 2007 Cadillac Escalade :mask:
I was going to put a newer model CTS, but if I'm selling my car, I'm assuming I'd want something more different
Quote from: 68_427 on July 09, 2010, 10:49:07 PM
145K miles. Starting to rust, slight body damage, possible chassis damage, bad paint, check engine light, and new timing belt soon.
That's more miles than my 1993 lesbian wagon had when I bought it in 2005.
Lesbians love to take their Golden retrievers to national parks you know...
if God forbid I'm selling because I need to downgrade...
1. 2005 Ford Mustang GT convertible
2. 2005 Chrysler 300C
3. 2007 Nissan Maxima
4. 2008 Honda Element SC
5. 2008 Mazda 6 V6
BTW, I kinda want a 2004 Mustang GT convertible. I really like the old body style.
Quote from: the Teuton on July 09, 2010, 11:12:20 PM
BTW, I kinda want a 2004 Mustang GT convertible. I really like the old body style.
it has aged quite well; more so than the 94-98 body style a few years after it got phased out
Quote from: Vinsanity on July 09, 2010, 11:27:20 PM
it has aged quite well; more so than the 94-98 body style a few years after it got phased out
I was behind a Terminator Cobra coupe on my way to work yesterday, and the stance and body lines on that car are phenomenal with their simplicity and style. It's almost like an Americanized pre-Bangle BMW. There isn't any wasted styling.
there's this mulleted fellow who parks his S/C Mustang Cobra in front of my office on a regular basis to use the ATM. It has ricey altezza lights, but it sounds quite glorious :rockon:
Auf Wiedersehen, BMW 118i
Hello Plymouth Volare! :rockon:
(http://www.hyts.hu/autok/plymouth/volare-1978/plymouth_volare-1978_r3.jpg)
:lol:
1. 2010 RX-8 R3- this would be rather dumb but if something happened to my 2009 then this is what I'd do.
2. 2010 BMW 335i coupe. But I couldn't bring myself to spend that kind of money on a car.
I'm going to pretend I'm finished parting out my car, and have the $2000 or so I planned to make, plus another $3000 or so for good measure. I actually am looking to help my bro buy a car by the end of the year that we would share. He would go to school with it, and I would take it on road trips or w/e on the weekend occasionally
2000-2003 Maxima GLE- no brainer
2001-2003 Acura CL Type-S- really loathe the exterior, and that tranny is scary, but most have had replacements, and the interior/chassis/engine make the flaws worth it to me
98-??? Passat GLX- kind of slow, but beautiful in and out and the motor sounds good w/an exhaust
Volvo C70- basically the opposite of the CL interior/exterior wise, fast though
Lex GS400- fcking cheap! Fast! Solid build quality! Might be too much for my bro though. Would really love one w/the black interior and an aftermarket navi system
A bus pass, realistically.
1. Mini Cooper S (turbo)
2. 996 911/cab
3. E46 M3
4. 645/50ci
5. RS4
Quote from: sportyaccordy on July 10, 2010, 11:30:01 AM
I'm going to pretend I'm finished parting out my car, and have the $2000 or so I planned to make, plus another $3000 or so for good measure. I actually am looking to help my bro buy a car by the end of the year that we would share. He would go to school with it, and I would take it on road trips or w/e on the weekend occasionally
2000-2003 Maxima GLE- no brainer
2001-2003 Acura CL Type-S- really loathe the exterior, and that tranny is scary, but most have had replacements, and the interior/chassis/engine make the flaws worth it to me
98-??? Passat GLX- kind of slow, but beautiful in and out and the motor sounds good w/an exhaust
Volvo C70- basically the opposite of the CL interior/exterior wise, fast though
Lex GS400- fcking cheap! Fast! Solid build quality! Might be too much for my bro though. Would really love one w/the black interior and an aftermarket navi system
Can I interest you in a Plymouth Volare? :praise:
2010 Civic Si
2010 Suzuki Kizashi GTS
Used 2008 Acura TSX
Each will be roughly 20k.
I just bought a new impractical car so if I were to replace the Mazda, it would be with something inexpensive, fairly practical, decent in the snow and economical. Maybe a used Impreza or if I were going new, a Fiesta hatch.
Quote from: MX793 on July 10, 2010, 06:42:26 PM
I just bought a new impractical car so if I were to replace the Mazda, it would be with something inexpensive, fairly practical, decent in the snow and economical. Maybe a used Impreza or if I were going new, a Fiesta hatch.
Do tell!
+2
GUISE, HE'S POSTING A NEW TOPIC IN GENERAL AUTOMOTIVE!
(at least that's what it says in the "what others are doing now" page)
Quote from: thecarnut on July 10, 2010, 07:52:17 PM
(s in the "what others are doing now" page)
where is this?
Sell both, plus a bit of savings, have $7-9k.
I would buy, get this, another Explorer, but with the SOHC, and an NA Miata. :lol:
Other Explorer replacements:
4WD Ranger
4WD S10
4WD Durango
4WD T-100
Other MG replacements:
NB Miata
Alfa Spider
Fiat Spider, X1/9
RX-7
better MG
etc.
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on July 09, 2010, 10:39:22 PM
Selling all three would leave me with maybe $2000 cash, if I'm lucky. That's a beat up automatic NA.
No way.
Swift $600
Sonoma $800
Rodeo $3000+
You're in nice manual NA territory!
:lol:
Quote from: Rupert on July 10, 2010, 08:58:22 PM
No way.
Swift $600
Sonoma $800
Rodeo $3000+
You're in nice manual NA territory!
:lol:
Oh, but Rodeo is not mine to sell... There's a certain bank that is holding the tittle until I pay them enough moneyz
Oh, yeah, right. Blast!
If I were to sell my car and use no savings whatsoever, I think I could get a decent 300ZX.
Quote from: the Teuton on July 09, 2010, 10:39:21 PM
4) Honda Accord 5-speed sedan that isn't too junky
If you want a coupe, I know of a very nice one that will probably be on the market in 2012.
I'm basically going to put down my list from last fall when I thought I was gonna get a new car. In no particular order:
-NB Miata
-1997 Saab 9-5 Aero
-EP3 Civic Si
-MR2 Spyder
That said, the 9-5 was only on the list because I stumbled upon it on AutoTrader, so if I were shopping again, I'd search pretty broadly for different options. The NB would be my #1 choice though, I think.
Sell all 3 at market value... that's about $15,000. I'll add $10,000 from savings and go for either a 993 (preferable) or a nice 996. Or if I'm selling to get a proper family car, then it's a 2011 Kia Optima. I'm smitten with that car.
Quote from: BimmerM3 on July 11, 2010, 11:41:43 AM
If you want a coupe, I know of a very nice one that will probably be on the market in 2012.
I'm basically going to put down my list from last fall when I thought I was gonna get a new car. In no particular order:
-NB Miata
-1997 Saab 9-5 Aero
-EP3 Civic Si
-MR2 Spyder
That said, the 9-5 was only on the list because I stumbled upon it on AutoTrader, so if I were shopping again, I'd search pretty broadly for different options. The NB would be my #1 choice though, I think.
Fancy that, I think I'm going to be starting to look at the end of 2012 for a 2013 car purchase. I'm not a fan of the fact that your car is very similar to by bro's V6 EX, but your car does have the I4 (good thing) and the 5-speed (I don't trust Honda automatics, so very good thing). A warm weather Accord might not be too bad at all.
Anything happen because of the flooding? Malfunctions?
Not since I got it back from the shop right after the flood. It's been running fine, though something is weird with the front, left corner - I think it's either a wheel bearing or something with my brakes. What ever it is will be fixed by then though.
Either a Focus with the Mazda engine (don't want to look up the year) or a NB Miata.
Quote from: TBR on July 12, 2010, 09:58:43 AM
Either a Focus with the Mazda engine (don't want to look up the year) or a NB Miata.
I have driven one, it was nothing to write home about TBH. Might have been the 4AT workign it though
SVT Focus = $9000 (very very rare in Canada)
Go down to California and buy another SVT Focus for $5000.
I'm in the process of doing this now. Selling my Tacoma and Protege5. 90% sure I'm buying an NC Miata.
Quote from: SVT666 on July 12, 2010, 01:03:46 PM
SVT Focus = $9000 (very very rare in Canada)
Go down to California and buy another SVT Focus for $5000.
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I don't really think I would sell my car. No matter how tired I am of it, it's still a fantastic car for me. Just big enough to squeeze my life into, but still small enough to enjoy. If I HAD to get something else, I would probably get something like a new Accord sedan, or a 4Runner.
Quote from: Minpin on July 12, 2010, 02:11:24 PM
I don't really think I would sell my car. No matter how tired I am of it, it's still a fantastic car for me. Just big enough to squeeze my life into, but still small enough to enjoy. If I HAD to get something else, I would probably get something like a new Accord sedan, or a 4Runner.
You really like an automatic tC that much?
Quote from: Raza link=topic=22457.msg1359427#msg1359427 date=1278968129
You really like an automatic tC that much?
What do other cars in that same price range do, that mine doesn't? :huh:
I don't really have the need for much else. At times I wish I had 4 doors, but honestly it's been a pretty sweet first car.
A tC is a good first car... but not necessarily a good car
I have been entertaining the thought of selling the cobra and wrangler and getting a one of the below, I wouldn't mind a bit more room for the family in addition to the Commander:
Grand Cherokee SRT-8
Charger SRT-8
CTS-V - 6 spd
S60R - 6 spd
G8 - 6 spd
S-type/XJ
Perhaps even a used escape hybrid so I can act smug here at the ivory tower.
Quote from: sportyaccordy on July 12, 2010, 03:51:02 PM
A tC is a good first car... but not necessarily a good car
Why would you say that? What does it not do? Shrink?
Quote from: SVT32V on July 12, 2010, 04:01:24 PM
I have been entertaining the thought of selling the cobra and wrangler and getting a one of the below, I wouldn't mind a bit more room for the family in addition to the Commander:
Grand Cherokee SRT-8
Charger SRT-8
CTS-V - 6 spd
S60R - 6 spd
G8 - 6 spd
S-type/XJ
Perhaps even a used escape hybrid so I can act smug here at the ivory tower.
Noce list, but I would add the Magnum SRT-8 to the list and ditch the GC. You already have an SUV. I would go with either the G8 GXP, Magnum/Charger SRT-8, or the CTS-V.
Quote from: SVT666 on July 12, 2010, 04:17:10 PM
Noce list, but I would add the Magnum SRT-8 to the list and ditch the GC. You already have an SUV. I would go with either the G8 GXP, Magnum/Charger SRT-8, or the CTS-V.
It is true that I already have an SUV but I really like the GC SRT8, they just launch and there is this twin turbo kit, 600 awhp.
I really like the way the S60R handles, it is small though.
As much as I like the charger, I just don't like the looks of the magnum.
The G8 is probably more than I want to pay at this point.
Quote from: Minpin on July 12, 2010, 04:15:58 PM
Why would you say that? What does it not do? Shrink?
I'm sure it excels at being an appliance car, but not as a driver's car.
Quote from: SVT_Power on July 12, 2010, 05:56:50 PM
I'm sure it excels at being an appliance car, but not as a driver's car.
Not too many reliable drivers cars, that also are practical enough for a 20 year old male, but also fall within a budget. ;)
Quote from: Minpin on July 12, 2010, 06:09:20 PM
Not too many reliable drivers cars, that also are practical enough for a 20 year old male, but also fall within a budget. ;)
There's tons of them....
Minpin is just mad that he didn't get a Civic Si.
Quote from: thecarnut on July 12, 2010, 06:21:18 PM
Minpin is just mad that he didn't get a Civic Si.
I'm really not. My car is very unassuming, something that an Si can not do. I'd rather blend into traffic than be the guy everyone loves to hate. I'm just a little saddened my car is getting picked on for being "a good first car, but not a good car"; which is a confusing statement in and of itself.
Either way, free car = the best car. :ohyeah:
Quote from: Minpin on July 12, 2010, 06:09:20 PM
Not too many reliable drivers cars, that also are practical enough for a 20 year old male, but also fall within a budget. ;)
Mazda3, Civic Si, WRX Wagon
It's a good car though; almost better than anything I've ever had anyway.
Quote from: sportyaccordy on July 12, 2010, 06:47:13 PM
Mazda3, Civic Si, WRX Wagon
It's a good car though; almost better than anything I've ever had anyway.
Do you have any idea what insurance rates for a 20 year old male w/ a WRX would be?
Quote from: Minpin on July 12, 2010, 03:04:05 PM
What do other cars in that same price range do, that mine doesn't? :huh:
I don't really have the need for much else. At times I wish I had 4 doors, but honestly it's been a pretty sweet first car.
Not judging...I really loved my Passat. I just never thought of the tC as the kind of car that someone loves.
Quote from: MX793 on July 12, 2010, 06:53:25 PM
Do you have any idea what insurance rates for a 20 year old male w/ a WRX would be?
It would be pretty bad. But the Civic Si would be worth it. Great car that.
Hmm...
Civic Si insurance rates aren't all that bad at all.
Quote from: sportyaccordy on July 12, 2010, 10:09:02 AM
I have driven one, it was nothing to write home about TBH. Might have been the 4AT workign it though
I have driven one as well. Handled pretty well, had great pep, and was quite practical. My only complaint was a lack of cruise in this no-options ZX3 S.
Quote from: TBR on July 12, 2010, 09:41:12 PM
I have driven one as well. Handled pretty well, had great pep, and was quite practical. My only complaint was a lack of cruise in this no-options ZX3 S.
You know what... the 2010 model I drove had the 2.0L Duratec. That car had no guts.
Quote from: MX793 on July 12, 2010, 06:53:25 PM
Do you have any idea what insurance rates for a 20 year old male w/ a WRX would be?
Gotta pay the cost to be the boss. The tC is not a bad but like Raza said I can't imagine someone loving it, unless they don't have a broad point of reference
Quote from: sportyaccordy on July 13, 2010, 07:15:31 AM
You know what... the 2010 model I drove had the 2.0L Duratec. That car had no guts.
The one I drove had the 2.0 as well, but it was a 5 spd, and I am somewhat certain the 'second generation' Focus put on a bit of weight. It wasn't neck snapping, but it wasn't disappointing either.
Quote from: SVT32V on July 12, 2010, 04:01:24 PM
I have been entertaining the thought of selling the cobra and wrangler and getting a one of the below, I wouldn't mind a bit more room for the family in addition to the Commander:
Grand Cherokee SRT-8
Charger SRT-8
CTS-V - 6 spd
S60R - 6 spd
G8 - 6 spd
S-type/XJ
Perhaps even a used escape hybrid so I can act smug here at the ivory tower.
Sweet list. I'd go G8, Charger, or XJ.
Quote from: sportyaccordy on July 13, 2010, 07:15:31 AM
The tC is not a bad but like Raza said I can't imagine someone loving it, unless they don't have a broad point of reference
So unless my car is a 200k sports car that goes 200 mph I am not allowed to love it? What kind of logic is that? Just because it doesn't do anything that makes your dick get hard doesn't mean I can't love it.
I bet you love your POS 1980 Honda shitboxes, but you don't see me criticizing them about how ghetto they look, and how it's impossible to love them. Jesus, you're dumber than I originally had you pegged for.
Quote from: Minpin on July 13, 2010, 03:04:36 PM
So unless my car is a 200k sports car that goes 200 mph I am not allowed to love it? What kind of logic is that? Just because it doesn't do anything that makes your dick get hard doesn't mean I can't love it.
I bet you love your POS 1980 Honda shitboxes, but you don't see me criticizing them about how ghetto they look, and how it's impossible to love them. Jesus, you're dumber than I originally had you pegged for.
No need to get emotional, it's just a tC. If you like it, do that and chill the fuck out, my opinion should have no bearing on how you enjoy your car. Kids are so sensitive these days.
Quote from: sportyaccordy on July 13, 2010, 03:41:18 PM
No need to get emotional, it's just a tC. If you like it, do that and chill the fuck out, my opinion should have no bearing on how you enjoy your car. Kids are so sensitive these days.
Mmmhmmm. Go fuck yourself.
Quote from: Minpin on July 12, 2010, 06:23:39 PM
I'm really not. My car is very unassuming, something that an Si can not do. I'd rather blend into traffic than be the guy everyone loves to hate. I'm just a little saddened my car is getting picked on for being "a good first car, but not a good car"; which is a confusing statement in and of itself.
Either way, free car = the best car. :ohyeah:
Actually in black, its a pretty nice sleeper IMO. Either way, if you like your car, thats all that matters.
Plus, you cant argue with a free car.
Quote from: thecarnut on July 10, 2010, 07:52:17 PM
GUISE, HE'S POSTING A NEW TOPIC IN GENERAL AUTOMOTIVE!
(at least that's what it says in the "what others are doing now" page)
???
Quote from: HotRodPilot on July 10, 2010, 08:06:04 PM
where is this?
http://www.carspin.net/forums/index.php?topic=22463.0
Quote from: TBR on July 13, 2010, 08:21:41 PM
http://www.carspin.net/forums/index.php?topic=22463.0
I think he was asking where the "what others are doing now" link/page was.
BTW, you can view what other online users are doing by clicking on the "Who's Online" link at the bottom of the main page
http://www.carspin.net/forums/index.php?action=who (http://www.carspin.net/forums/index.php?action=who)
My car (2001 Mercury Sable LS Wagon) apparently has a KBB private party value of 4,720. I find that next to impossible to believe. It was bought over a year ago for $4k. However, taking the larger number and doing a super quick craigslist cruise, I find...
1980 Triumph Spitfire!!!
http://providence.craigslist.org/cto/1838686151.html
Quote from: J86 on July 13, 2010, 09:04:20 PM
My car (2001 Mercury Sable LS Wagon) apparently has a KBB private party value of 4,720. I find that next to impossible to believe. It was bought over a year ago for $4k. However, taking the larger number and doing a super quick craigslist cruise, I find...
1980 Triumph Spitfire!!!
http://providence.craigslist.org/cto/1838686151.html
$4500 for a Spitfire? I was reading in GRM (or it might have been the sister mag), and the one guy was saying that the Spitfire is the car one of your friends is always trying to give you.
Man, I would love one of those as a resto-mod. Stick in a light, modern engine (maybe an MX-5 engine or something like the 2.0T, if not smaller) and transmission, give it a modern suspension. The only better car I can think of to do that to would be the S1 Elan.
I know nothing about Sptifires other than they are old little ragtops, so therefore exactly what I love! I also invested a grand total of twelve seconds on that bit of 'research'. I'd be interested to drive one someday.
I have an MG you might be interested in. It runs great! :lol:
Quote from: Raza on July 14, 2010, 07:26:27 AM
$4500 for a Spitfire? I was reading in GRM (or it might have been the sister mag), and the one guy was saying that the Spitfire is the car one of your friends is always trying to give you.
Man, I would love one of those as a resto-mod. Stick in a light, modern engine (maybe an MX-5 engine or something like the 2.0T, if not smaller) and transmission, give it a modern suspension. The only better car I can think of to do that to would be the S1 Elan.
Oh, Raza, ye of little British car price knowledge. ;)
I think that's a pretty right on price for that Spit. It looks like it's in good shape, it has low original miles, etc.
The Spitfire was a fine car, and just as good as the other British cars of the time. Basically, maintain like crazy from new, and you're pretty much good to go, for the most part.
Quote from: Rupert on July 14, 2010, 09:58:03 PM
Oh, Raza, ye of little British car price knowledge. ;)
I think that's a pretty right on price for that Spit. It looks like it's in good shape, it has low original miles, etc.
The Spitfire was a fine car, and just as good as the other British cars of the time. Basically, maintain like crazy from new, and you're pretty much good to go, for the most part.
I like the Spitfire a lot, actually (one of my favorites in GT4, too), but $4500 is a lot. I was looking at ones a couple years ago in comparable condition for $3000 or less.
I'd take an SR20DET old British sports car.
Quote from: Raza on July 15, 2010, 05:40:58 AM
I like the Spitfire a lot, actually (one of my favorites in GT4, too), but $4500 is a lot. I was looking at ones a couple years ago in comparable condition for $3000 or less.
Maybe they were that nice, maybe they weren't. I should say that maybe that car is worth it, maybe it's not. With these old cars, you can find examples from $500 to better than $20,000. If you don't see a car in person, it's pretty hard to pin it down to such an exact value. I'm sure that Spit is worth somewhere in the $2500-$6000 range, but it's all in the details. There are also a lot of regional, seasonal, short-term supply fluctuation, and etc. price variations.
Bottom line is, you can't just look at a short ad for an old car and call it overpriced.
Quote from: the Teuton on July 15, 2010, 05:25:10 PM
I'd take an SR20DET old British sports car.
This is to say that you'd not take an old British sports car with its stock engine? ;)
Quote from: Rupert on July 15, 2010, 10:58:59 PM
This is to say that you'd not take an old British sports car with its stock engine? ;)
I would.
I'm just terrified of them. They're old, often have tons of electrical or mechanical issues, and were just a bit on the slow side. The Nissan motor would fix a ton of those issues.
Not really. The engine in most old British cars is fine, but, granted, the Nissan engine would make it faster and more reliable. However, there are so many other components that are not going to be helped by a new motor, from brakes to the electrical system. You put a modern engine in my MG, all you have in a more complicated problem. :lol:
The only way I would take an old British sports car is if all the electrics have been replaced and the big iron anchor in front had been replaced with a 302.
Quote from: Rupert on July 15, 2010, 10:58:02 PM
Maybe they were that nice, maybe they weren't. I should say that maybe that car is worth it, maybe it's not. With these old cars, you can find examples from $500 to better than $20,000. If you don't see a car in person, it's pretty hard to pin it down to such an exact value. I'm sure that Spit is worth somewhere in the $2500-$6000 range, but it's all in the details. There are also a lot of regional, seasonal, short-term supply fluctuation, and etc. price variations.
Bottom line is, you can't just look at a short ad for an old car and call it overpriced.
I can, and will, damn it.
Quote from: the Teuton on July 15, 2010, 05:25:10 PM
I'd take an SR20DET old British sports car.
Why stop there? Go with the RWD cure all
(http://lees69camaro.com/engine/engine24.jpg)
LS SWAAAAAAAAP
Sell my E38 and add some money to buy an '01 E38 sport.
Sell the Range Rover and buy a diesel crew cab pickup to tow an even larger travel traler.
Quote from: ChrisV on July 16, 2010, 11:50:17 AM
Sell my E38 and add some money to buy an '01 E38 sport.
Sell the Range Rover and buy a diesel crew cab pickup to tow an even larger travel traler.
Have you ever gotten to play with all of the cool toys in an E38 750iL? They're fun.
Quote from: ChrisV on July 16, 2010, 11:50:17 AM
Sell my E38 and add some money to buy an '01 E38 sport.
Sell the Range Rover and buy a diesel crew cab pickup to tow an even larger travel traler.
Stay away from Ford. Not that you are actually planning on doing that right now.
Quote from: 68_427 on July 16, 2010, 10:07:01 PM
Stay away from Ford. Not that you are actually planning on doing that right now.
?
They're fine. All the big trucks are fine.
Quote from: Rupert on July 16, 2010, 10:24:08 PM
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They're fine. All the big trucks are fine.
The 6.0L trucks had many problems, the 6.4L was okay but still very expensive, the 7.3L were pretty reliable in later years but require 16qts of oil every change. (and the automatic transmission was maxed out torque wise on the stock motor. So no chippin')
:rolleyes:
The duramaxes also had some problems. As long as you get a second or third year model you should be fine with any of them.
If I had to sell, then I'd get Solstice N/A and supercharge it, and some 8-10k economy car with a stick
Quote from: HotRodPilot on July 17, 2010, 10:48:03 AM
If I had to sell, then I'd get Solstice N/A and supercharge it, and some 8-10k economy car with a stick
How about you just sell the Mustang to me and buy another one.
I think I need to amend my statement:
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3072/2503565815_a5cc399e93.jpg)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3286/2504408728_6568dc949a.jpg)
6 speed, of course.
Quote from: Raza on July 18, 2010, 09:37:47 AM
I think I need to amend my statement:
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3072/2503565815_a5cc399e93.jpg)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3286/2504408728_6568dc949a.jpg)
6 speed, of course.
You make a compelling argument. I would love to have an E46 M3 as a DD and have an S2000/987/Elise as a weekender.
Quote from: the Teuton on July 16, 2010, 04:26:03 PM
Have you ever gotten to play with all of the cool toys in an E38 750iL? They're fun.
Yeah. A lot of people on the E38 forums install as many 750 updates on their 740s as they can. Of course, there are quite a few 750 owners that rub it in everyone's face... ;)
Quote from: 68_427 on July 16, 2010, 10:41:10 PM
The 6.0L trucks had many problems, the 6.4L was okay but still very expensive, the 7.3L were pretty reliable in later years but require 16qts of oil every change. (and the automatic transmission was maxed out torque wise on the stock motor. So no chippin')
All the Fords I've looked at were the 7.3 liter ones, and quite a few are making more power than stock with no issues. My neighbor runs a fleet of the Ford F250s up through F450s with both the N/A and turbo 7.3s and has no problem getting 400k miles out of them.
I was also looking at the mid '90s GMCs like this one:
http://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/cto/1789536491.html
All of them seem to go huge numbers of miles without issue.
I also like this one, but it's not a 20 series...
http://baltimore.craigslist.org/cto/1847444408.html
By most accounts the 6.5l GM diesel is completely gutless. I am not sure it's something you'd want to tow a heavy trailer with when the terrain is rugged.
It's got enough guts for most applications.
Quote from: TBR on July 18, 2010, 02:40:25 PM
By most accounts the 6.5l GM diesel is completely gutless. I am not sure it's something you'd want to tow a heavy trailer with when the terrain is rugged.
Second one had Banks upgrades anyways.
The 7.3s are good motors and the 16qt of oil every change isn't that big of a deal if it's really only used for towing or special equations.
Quote from: TBR on July 18, 2010, 02:40:25 PM
By most accounts the 6.5l GM diesel is completely gutless. I am not sure it's something you'd want to tow a heavy trailer with when the terrain is rugged.
If it was good enough for the US military in temperatures that can get as high as 120F all day long and still be reliable, can it really be that bad?
440ftlb is evough to tow any trailer he's towing with his Range Rover.
Quote from: 68_427 on July 18, 2010, 09:43:40 PM
Second one had Banks upgrades anyways.
The 7.3s are good motors and the 16qt of oil every change isn't that big of a deal if it's really only used for towing or special equations.
you mean special occasions? :confused::lol:
Yes. I'm not quite sure how I did that, but you could equate things. Take 16qts every 3000miles... that's a quart every 187.5 miles. Ya hurrd?
Quote from: 68_427 on July 18, 2010, 10:29:27 PM
440ftlb is evough to tow any trailer he's towing with his Range Rover.
Yeah, well, the reason I'm thinking of it is I want to tow a travel trailer that's just at the limits of the Rangie's 7000 lb towing capacity. The 3500lb one we have now is easy to tow (just towed it over the Appalacians and Alleghanies to Ohio last week in 90 degree weather with no issues).
That 6.5 turbo diesel one towed a couple cars on a car trailer from Nashville with no issues, and I know a lot of people that use them for towing larger 5th wheel trailers and horse trailers that are over 7-10,000 lbs. I'm looking to get a 27-30 ft travel trailer in the 6500-7500lb range empty.
Quote from: ChrisV on July 19, 2010, 05:04:22 AM
Yeah, well, the reason I'm thinking of it is I want to tow a travel trailer that's just at the limits of the Rangie's 7000 lb towing capacity. The 3500lb one we have now is easy to tow (just towed it over the Appalacians and Alleghanies to Ohio last week in 90 degree weather with no issues).
That 6.5 turbo diesel one towed a couple cars on a car trailer from Nashville with no issues, and I know a lot of people that use them for towing larger 5th wheel trailers and horse trailers that are over 7-10,000 lbs. I'm looking to get a 27-30 ft travel trailer in the 6500-7500lb range empty.
Add another 1500 lbs for stuff.
Quote from: SVT666 on July 19, 2010, 04:42:43 PM
Add another 1500 lbs for stuff.
Probably more. When we go camping we have almost that much in the bed of the truck. But we usually bring too much stuff just in case. The water weighs alot too.
I always wondered how much more optimistic the tow ratings in UK/Europe are, ever since I saw the Top Gear guys tow their caravan with that small ass Kia.
Granted, the caravan was pretty small as well, but noone in the U.S. would even think of towing anything with that type of car.
Actually there's a lot of families that think they can get by towing a 20ft+ travel trailer with their Sienna/Caravan etc. On various trip to Camping World (Formerly Meyer's RV) I've seen at least one family being told their Minivan can't tow the trailer they want. Then they go buy something for men with vaginas like a Ridgeline. :lol:
Quote from: Vinsanity on July 19, 2010, 05:14:47 PM
I always wondered how much more optimistic the tow ratings in UK/Europe are, ever since I saw the Top Gear guys tow their caravan with that small ass Kia.
Granted, the caravan was pretty small as well, but noone in the U.S. would even think of towing anything with that type of car.
Did you see how poorly it was towing it? It only got up to 50MPH.
Quote from: 68_427 on July 18, 2010, 11:43:03 PM
Yes. I'm not quite sure how I did that, but you could equate things. Take 16qts every 3000miles... that's a quart every 187.5 miles. Ya hurrd?
My car does something like that. ;)
My friend puts 3qts in his Celica every week and a half. So about 70 miles.
Quote from: 68_427 on July 19, 2010, 08:20:37 PM
My friend puts 3qts in his Celica every week and a half. So about 70 miles.
And you guys make fun of me...
I'm doing about a half to 3/4 of a quart ever 130 miles or so.
Quote from: 2o6 on July 19, 2010, 08:09:49 PM
Did you see how poorly it was towing it? It only got up to 50MPH.
yup, and that wasn't surprising. What was surprising was the implication that this is acceptable in Europe :mask:
Yeah his car is pretty bad. But if someone is riding his ass he can smoke them out on demand.
Quote from: Vinsanity on July 19, 2010, 08:32:34 PM
yup, and that wasn't surprising. What was surprising was the implication that this is acceptable in Europe :mask:
Not only that but it was
Tow Car of The Year
Quote from: 68_427 on July 19, 2010, 08:33:22 PM
Yeah his car is pretty bad. But if someone is riding his ass he can smoke them out on demand.
Oh Cheesus H. Crust...
Quote from: the Teuton on July 19, 2010, 08:13:28 PM
My car does something like that. ;)
A quart every 187 miles!? I'd need to add oil every other day.
Quote from: 68_427 on July 19, 2010, 05:00:24 PM
Probably more. When we go camping we have almost that much in the bed of the truck. But we usually bring too much stuff just in case. The water weighs alot too.
Actually, We don't travel with water in the tanks. Always get water hookups at the campground and dump the black and gray before leaving. And we don't load the trailer down with a bunch of crap. But yeah, you can say that other than the truck and trailer, there's about 500 lbs of stuff that goes with us. But after RVing a lot, we just find it occasionally a bit too cramped in the 19 footer, even with the fold out ends:
(http://home.comcast.net/~cvetters3/camp4.jpg)
And setting up/taking down the folding tent ends in the rain has proven to be less than fun. So I want an internal bedroom.
I've done camping in tents, hiking in to the campsite. If I want more of that, I can go out with the scout troop some more.
Quote from: ChrisV on July 20, 2010, 05:43:47 AM
Actually, We don't travel with water in the tanks. Always get water hookups at the campground and dump the black and gray before leaving. And we don't load the trailer down with a bunch of crap. But yeah, you can say that other than the truck and trailer, there's about 500 lbs of stuff that goes with us. But after RVing a lot, we just find it occasionally a bit too cramped in the 19 footer, even with the fold out ends:
(http://home.comcast.net/~cvetters3/camp4.jpg)
And setting up/taking down the folding tent ends in the rain has proven to be less than fun. So I want an internal bedroom.
I've done camping in tents, hiking in to the campsite. If I want more of that, I can go out with the scout troop some more.
I decided that the next camping trip I go on will involve a trailer. I've grown tired of tents and tarps this summer.
Next time I go camping, it will involve a hotel.
Quote from: 68_427 on July 19, 2010, 05:00:24 PM
Probably more. When we go camping we have almost that much in the bed of the truck. But we usually bring too much stuff just in case. The water weighs alot too.
:wtf: That's not camping, that's called moving all your shit outside for a couple of days.
Quote from: Raza on July 20, 2010, 09:26:41 AM
Next time I go camping, it will involve a hotel.
I strongly approve. Perhaps a view of the pool, if I'm feeling outdoorsy.
This> hotel room.
(http://grandjunction-rv.com/media/gallery/large/grandjunction-fronttoback.jpg)
BTW Chris you should have gotten an Adirondack travel trailer. Those suite the Rangie better.
Quote from: 68_427 on July 20, 2010, 11:30:15 AM
This> hotel room.
(http://grandjunction-rv.com/media/gallery/large/grandjunction-fronttoback.jpg)
Obviously, you've been staying at the wrong hotels.
Quote from: 68_427 on July 20, 2010, 11:30:15 AM
This> hotel room.
(http://grandjunction-rv.com/media/gallery/large/grandjunction-fronttoback.jpg)
BTW Chris you should have gotten an Adirondack travel trailer. Those suite the Rangie better.
How is that camping? As MrH said, that's just moving your shit out of your house and then putting it back when you're done. It's dumb.
"Camp" = temporary living quarters.
Travel Trailer = temporary living quarters
Travel Trailer = Camp
Using travel trailer = Camping
Times have changed and camping has evolved.
Quote from: 68_427 on July 20, 2010, 12:19:41 PM
"Camp" = temporary living quarters.
Travel Trailer = temporary living quarters
Travel Trailer = Camp
Using travel trailer = Camping
Times have changed and camping has evolved.
To me, it seems like you're taking your family room with you, putting it in a field, and then watching TV there. Why not just get a hotel that's much cheaper? You get the same comfort at a fraction of the cost and hassle. You're not really camping.
Plus a lot of campsites, at least the ones I've been to, won't let you park something that massive at the grounds. You get enough room for 2-3 tents at most.
"Someone mentions camping"
"Vomit for 24 days"
Quote from: thecarnut on July 20, 2010, 12:27:25 PM
To me, it seems like you're taking your family room with you, putting it in a field, and then watching TV there. Why not just get a hotel that's much cheaper? You get the same comfort at a fraction of the cost and hassle. You're not really camping.
Plus a lot of campsites, at least the ones I've been to, won't let you park something that massive at the grounds. You get enough room for 2-3 tents at most.
Having a camper gives you a lot more options than staying in Hotels. But it's personal preference. If someone wants to buy a camper; I don't give a shit. :huh:
Quote from: 68_427 on July 20, 2010, 12:19:41 PM
"Camp" = temporary living quarters.
Travel Trailer = temporary living quarters
Travel Trailer = Camp
Using travel trailer = Camping
Times have changed and camping has evolved.
Hotel = temporary living quarters
Hotel = Camping
Everyone's perception of camping is that it's not real camping unless your doing that bear grills thing or whatever his name is.
To me, camping always included a tent. Sleeping in the woods amongst the animals and bugs and parasites and muck and disgusting heat. I'd rent a cabin for a little while though. Hit the river, grill every night...if only I had friends to do this shit with....
Quote from: Raza link=topic=22457.msg1364371#msg1364371 date=1279654214
I'd rent a cabin for a little while though. Hit the river, grill every night...if only I had friends to do this shit with....
This is what our trips consist of. We travel with about 6 other families. (No rivers though, just lakes)
Tent = camping
Tent Trailer = camping
Travel Trailer = Not camping
My wife refuses to go camping anymore. The only time I ever get to is when I go with my dad.
Quote from: SVT666 on July 20, 2010, 01:36:23 PM
Tent Trailer = camping
Travel Trailer = Not camping
Does not compute. Many "Tent Campers" (or pop-ups, as manu 'murcans call them) even come with stove/oven, sink, fridge/freezer, and even bathrooms now.
Quote from: 68_427 on July 20, 2010, 01:40:33 PM
Does not compute. Many "Tent Campers" (or pop-ups, as manu 'murcans call them) even come with stove/oven, sink, fridge/freezer, and even bathrooms now.
Tent trailers are basically tents on wheels with a tiny fridge (the size of most coolers), a small stove (about the size of my Coleman), and I have yet to see a tent trailer with a toilet. DOesn't sound much different then my tenting setup...except that it's on wheels and has a hard roof and floor.
Are we talking about the same thing?
(http://bp3.blogger.com/_tnGO3LrkLW0/R0Rf-_rGrtI/AAAAAAAAADE/LXZ-g1dpIcU/s400/coleman_used_campers.jpg)
Quote from: 68_427 on July 20, 2010, 01:53:23 PM
Are we talking about the same thing?
(http://bp3.blogger.com/_tnGO3LrkLW0/R0Rf-_rGrtI/AAAAAAAAADE/LXZ-g1dpIcU/s400/coleman_used_campers.jpg)
That's a pretty extreme example. That even has air conditioning. Wow.
Quote from: SVT666 on July 20, 2010, 01:55:04 PM
That's a pretty extreme example. That even has air conditioning. Wow.
My parents bought one in 1992 that had A/C. lmao. Like I said, camping as evolved just like everything else.
(http://www.colemantrailers.com/uploads/309411226933072-xl.jpg)
Quote from: Raza on July 20, 2010, 01:30:14 PM
To me, camping always included a tent. Sleeping in the woods amongst the animals and bugs and parasites and muck and disgusting heat. I'd rent a cabin for a little while though. Hit the river, grill every night...if only I had friends to do this shit with....
Both the tent and the cabin sound pretty great.
Diesels have come a long way since the GM 6.5l. I personally would pony up for a more recent diesel or a Cummins, but that's just me. The 6.5l is definitely proven though.
Personally, this isn't my idea of fun:
(http://www.lakerv.com/images/rvpark1.jpg)
(an extreme example I admit)
I'd much prefer this:
(http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/2733/imgp1407e.jpg)
(yes, that is actually me in all my studdliness)
But each to his own.
I want to go backpacking but I don't think I am physically fit to do it. Neither are any of my friends.
Quote from: TBR on July 20, 2010, 02:16:47 PM
Personally, this isn't my idea of fun:
(http://www.lakerv.com/images/rvpark1.jpg)
(an extreme example I admit)
Once you hit 70.... :lol:
Quote from: thecarnut on July 20, 2010, 02:19:13 PM
I want to go backpacking but I don't think I am physically fit to do it. Neither are any of my friends.
I am not exactly the hulk, but I manage to do pretty well. As long as you're going with people at your same experience/fitness level; it won't be much of an issue.
Quote from: TBR on July 20, 2010, 02:20:58 PM
I am not exactly the hulk, but I manage to do pretty well. As long as you're going with people at your same experience/fitness level; it won't be much of an issue.
Yeah, as long as you don't make a competition out of it, you can probably just rest frequently and drink loads of water.
Quote from: TBR on July 20, 2010, 02:12:21 PM
Both the tent and the cabin sound pretty great.
Diesels have come a long way since the GM 6.5l. I personally would pony up for a more recent diesel or a Cummins, but that's just me. The 6.5l is definitely proven though.
I'm going to do the cabin thing next year, you know, if I make friends and buy that kayak I've been talking about for ages. I have the money now, it's not a problem. Maybe I'll find some time this August to rent and hit some water.
Quote from: Raza on July 20, 2010, 02:29:00 PM
I'm going to do the cabin thing next year, you know, if I make friends and buy that kayak I've been talking about for ages. I have the money now, it's not a problem. Maybe I'll find some time this August to rent and hit some water.
Go to the Adirondacks if you have the time. It's awesome for that stuff. I'll be going with a friend to a cottage in the Adirondacks that's located on a small creek in between two lakes. We Kayaked the lakes too.
Quote from: TBR on July 20, 2010, 02:20:58 PM
I am not exactly the hulk, but I manage to do pretty well. As long as you're going with people at your same experience/fitness level; it won't be much of an issue.
Yeah, I should ask my friends if they'd like to go one day. Equipment is $$$ though.
Quote from: thecarnut on July 20, 2010, 02:31:53 PM
Yeah, I should ask my friends if they'd like to go one day. Equipment is $$$ though.
I'm sure you can rent for a weekend.
Quote from: thecarnut on July 20, 2010, 12:27:25 PM
To me, it seems like you're taking your family room with you, putting it in a field, and then watching TV there. Why not just get a hotel that's much cheaper? You get the same comfort at a fraction of the cost and hassle. You're not really camping.
Plus a lot of campsites, at least the ones I've been to, won't let you park something that massive at the grounds. You get enough room for 2-3 tents at most.
Typical kid with no family response.
(http://www.supercars.net/pitlane/pics/4587/3348137a.jpg)
Look in that doorway. See the beagle? Also have a Sheltie. Ever try getting a good hotel room with a couple dogs? Ever try to make hotel reservations sequentially across the country, with a family and dogs? And are there hotels everyplace I might want to go?
Like I sad, I've been camping in tents. If I want to, I can head out with the scout troop for more of that. I LIKE being out in the woods, but still having a bathroom and clean shower that you don't have to go traipsing though poison ivy in the rain to get to.
I have timeshares. I have RVs. I've used hotels. And I've done tenting. Really, of all of them, this is the most convenient and best way of traveling for the family.
I'm all for having a comfortable place to sleep, but in my opinion, camping is about being outside as much as possible until you have to sleep. Having a fireplace, a television, a minibar, a lap pool, etc. - that just incentivizes you to spend more awake time inside and less time outside.
Quote from: thecarnut on July 20, 2010, 02:31:53 PM
Yeah, I should ask my friends if they'd like to go one day. Equipment is $$$ though.
A lot of colleges rent out backpacking equipment for reasonable rates. Check your school's fitness and recreation center.
Quote from: Laconian on July 20, 2010, 02:44:01 PM
I'm all for having a comfortable place to sleep, but in my opinion, camping is about being outside as much as possible until you have to sleep. Having a fireplace, a television, a minibar, a lap pool, etc. - that just incentivizes you to spend more awake time inside and less time outside.
See, for me, a vacation is about a fireplace, television, minibar, lap pool, lap dances, etc. The last thing I want to do is wipe my ass with a leaf. Don't have dogs, don't have a family. For me, a vacation is about getting away from all that and living in fleeting opulence.
Quote from: Raza on July 20, 2010, 02:52:02 PM
See, for me, a vacation is about a fireplace, television, minibar, lap pool, lap dances, etc. The last thing I want to do is wipe my ass with a leaf. Don't have dogs, don't have a family. For me, a vacation is about getting away from all that and living in fleeting opulence.
I agree wholeheartedly
Nothing like chilling out on a beach, then heading back to the resort or cruise ship to grub on some pre-purchased food. I can kind of see the value in wanting to get away from it all but on the whole it's not for me. Just getting away from the city and computers and all that shit is enough.
Quote from: thecarnut on July 20, 2010, 02:31:53 PM
Equipment is $$$ though.
I spent over $400 in equipment alone for my canoe trip. :mask:
I "camped" this last weekend out on the Cape. Pitched a tent in the backyard of a very nice home :lol:
Quote from: omicron on July 20, 2010, 09:32:55 AM
I strongly approve. Perhaps a view of the pool, if I'm feeling outdoorsy.
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/M4qNQqd9l9jumubslndaA08R_500.jpg)
Quote from: Raza link=topic=22457.msg1364371#msg1364371 date=1279654214
To me, camping always included a tent. Sleeping in the woods amongst the animals and bugs and parasites and muck and disgusting heat. I'd rent a cabin for a little while though. Hit the river, grill every night...if only I had friends to do this shit with....
+1. Camping = tent or shelter at the very most.
And when I say shelter, I mean something like this:
(http://hikethewhites.com//katahdin/davis_shelter.jpg)
NOTE: I'm not dissing RVing or caravaning. I would love to do an RV road trip one of these days. I just don't consider it camping.
Quote from: thecarnut on July 20, 2010, 02:19:13 PM
I want to go backpacking but I don't think I am physically fit to do it. Neither are any of my friends.
You run every day and ride your bike all the time. You'd be perfectly fine.
Quote from: Laconian on July 20, 2010, 02:44:01 PM
I'm all for having a comfortable place to sleep, but in my opinion, camping is about being outside as much as possible until you have to sleep. Having a fireplace, a television, a minibar, a lap pool, etc. - that just incentivizes you to spend more awake time inside and less time outside.
One, I've never said I was "camping." I've gone tenting, and even hiking with no tent and just a sleeping bag. But I don't have to prove I'm a caveman and sleep in the outdoors with the bugs, spiders, and bears, hoping to god some angry bear doesn't smell my food or poop and decide he needs to tear up the tent or sleeping bag in the middle of the night.
I like to head out and sit around the campfire, drink some beers with my wife and talk about the things we did or saw during the day and then go to bed in a comfortable bed with an enclosed bathroom where I'm not going to get poison ivy on my ass just to prove to some silly kid that I'm some misbegotten ideal of "manly." :lol: :evildude:
This last trip was simple one to travel to Cedar Point and play around on the roller coasters and in the water park, head back to the trailer at night and drink beer and cook up some brats and italian sausages, slep comfortaby and head out to do so again in the morning. I could travel at my leisure, the campsite cost considerably less than the hotel at the resort, and the puppies can go with us and not have to be kenneled.
I also take the RV to the track to spend less than hotel rooms, and on the west coast, I was also able to take the RV out onto the beach in places and stay out there.
I tend to think that some of you think that RVing means sitting in the RV 24/7. No more than tenting or being in a makeshift shelter does. And it's MUCH nicer if the trip you've planned for months and finally get to the campsite to have a good time, ends up being in the middle of a thunderstorm. Sorry, been in a thunderstorm in tent a few times. I didn't feel happily "connected to nature" from the experience. ;)
And of course, as I said, I'll ALSO stay in hotels, or use a timeshare, or a bed and breakfast, or even go tenting if that's what I feel like. I'm simply not limited to one choice or the other.
You might not be saying that, but 68_427 was making the argument that the modern practice of "camping" now includes this mobile hotel lobby:
(http://grandjunction-rv.com/media/gallery/large/grandjunction-fronttoback.jpg)
And I didn't say anything about roughing it to prove one's "manliness". :P
Quote from: thecarnut on July 20, 2010, 02:19:13 PM
I want to go backpacking but I don't think I am physically fit to do it. Neither are any of my friends.
Ha, oh, yes you are!
Quote from: BimmerM3 on July 20, 2010, 06:51:16 PM
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/M4qNQqd9l9jumubslndaA08R_500.jpg)
I love this.
Quote from: 68_427 on July 20, 2010, 12:19:41 PM
Times have changed and camping has evolved.
No, camping is still camping; people just camp less.
It's less what you are sleeping in than where you are sleeping. KOA (notice they spell it with a "K") isn't camping, no matter if you're in a tent or an RV. Driving out to some BLM or Forest Service campground without trimmed grass and access to the nearest town is, no matter what you are sleeping in. However, bringing a TV or the internet is never camping. ;)
Additionally, camping is not (or should not be) about proving to the world/yourself/your friends/Bear "The Poseur" Grylls how rugged or manly or whatever you are. It is just fun (unless you're me, and then it's work). If it pours all day, and everything is wet, there is no shame in going home/to a motel, because camping in the rain sucks ass.
IMO, only people who don't know how to camp:
shout all night
have more marble in their RV than in my rock collection
leave their shit out all night
litter
cut some fresh wood to attempt to make a fire with
bring yapping shitface dogs
are there to "commune with nature"
think they're so hardcore for doing any of the above
Quote from: 68_427 on July 20, 2010, 01:15:51 PM
Hotel = Camping
Everyone's perception of camping is that it's not real camping unless your doing that bear grills thing or whatever his name is.
That's not camping; it's retarded.
Quote from: omicron on July 27, 2010, 10:26:19 PM
I love this.
I figured you would. I believe it exists in t-shirt format, just in case you want to wear it.
http://www.bustedtees.com/outdoorsy
Quote from: BimmerM3 on July 28, 2010, 12:19:50 AM
I figured you would. I believe it exists in t-shirt format, just in case you want to wear it.
http://www.bustedtees.com/outdoorsy
Egads, and the model has a big nose, too! There is a degree of fate here.