So last week I put a deposit down on a new car after what seemed like an eternity of looking. The dealer was unable to locate one spec'ed as I wanted (actually, they did find one at another dealership but it was already sold) so I had to have it ordered. From what I've been told, it'll take 6-8 weeks. I should have a better ETA in the coming weeks.
And the winner is:
2011 Ford Mustang V6 Premium.
6MT
Kona blue, black leather
3.31 final drive (the only option I spec'ed on it)
brum :cheers:
:ohyeah: :rockon:
Excellent. I am very jealous.
What others were in the running? Or were there any others?
What a fast, uber cool secretary's car you have. :lol:
Congrats...do secretaries really need cars that will hit 60 mph in 5.5 seconds?
So what swayed you into this rather than a Genesis coupe?
Probably price and overall speed, I'd say.
About time. :lol:
Seems like the two people who were "shopping" for a long time finally got something. :ohyeah:
Great color choice. Congrats, hope it gives you years of joy.
Nice, I had a new V6 rental in Las Vegas last month but it was still a 2010 4.0 car.
Nice!
Quote from: Jon? on July 10, 2010, 08:59:40 PM
What others were in the running? Or were there any others?
Genesis coupe 3.8 was the closest serious contender.
The RX-8 was sort of lurking as a dark horse possibility. Wonderful to drive, but the horrible fuel economy and tiny trunk (with no folding seats) were significant strikes against it.
Quote from: HotRodPilot on July 10, 2010, 08:59:54 PM
So what swayed you into this rather than a Genesis coupe?
Several things. After discounts/rebates, pricing came out to be pretty comparable between a base 3.8 coupe and the Mustang, so that basically fell out of the equation.
Mustang's interior is a little nicer, it came with a limited slip (only available on the Genesis Track models), and the clutch and transmission were vastly better and easier to use. The clutch in the Genesis is very abrupt. Almost like a light switch. The first one I drove I was unable to consistently take off smoothly from a stop. It would shudder like it was about to stall (or actually stall) at the friction point and if I gave it any throttle I was squealing tires. The second example I drove was better (didn't shudder like the first one at the friction point) but I still found the clutch tricky to modulate. The Hyundai's shifter was also a bit clunky and high effort compared to the Mustang, but that's pretty minor compared to my issues with the clutch.
Additionally, the fact that the Genesis is brand spanking new counted against it. The Mustang's hardware is a bit more tried and true. The Genesis is an impressive car, especially for a first effort, and I think with a few years to work in some refinements (particularly the clutch and shifter) and to demonstrate reliability/durability, it could be a real winner. Hopefully Hyundai will give it a real chance and not abandon it after only a couple of years if sales don't pan out in the first couple of years.
Pics?
Or shens!
:lol:
Quote from: goldenlover1101 on July 11, 2010, 02:34:05 AM
Pics?
Had to order it and it takes 6-8 weeks to arrive. I'll post pics when I get the car.
congrats- I'm very jealous.
Is the 3.31 for fuel economy or top speed? :winkguy:
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on July 11, 2010, 08:21:32 AM
congrats- I'm very jealous.
Is the 3.31 for fuel economy or top speed? :winkguy:
That's the shorter ratio for more acceleration. The standard gear is very tall for fuel economy.
Nice! And people were saying no enthusiasts would buy the V6 Mustang.
Quote from: MX793 on July 11, 2010, 08:23:43 AM
That's the shorter ratio for more acceleration. The standard gear is very tall for fuel economy.
You need some 3.73 or 4.11
Congrats! What ended up eliminating the 1-series? I knew you were considering that for awhile.
Quote from: MrH on July 11, 2010, 10:06:25 AM
Congrats! What ended up eliminating the 1-series? I knew you were considering that for awhile.
Price.
Quote from: 68_427 on July 11, 2010, 09:57:39 AM
You need some 3.73 or 4.11
With the 3.31s, the overall gearing in the first two gears is comparable to a '11 GT with 3.73s. Don't think I want anything shorter than that.
Quote from: MX793 on July 10, 2010, 08:45:03 PM
So last week I put a deposit down on a new car after what seemed like an eternity of looking. The dealer was unable to locate one spec'ed as I wanted (actually, they did find one at another dealership but it was already sold) so I had to have it ordered. From what I've been told, it'll take 6-8 weeks. I should have a better ETA in the coming weeks.
And the winner is:
2011 Ford Mustang V6 Premium.
6MT
Kona blue, black leather
3.31 final drive (the only option I spec'ed on it)
:rockon:
Good luck with it, man.
Congrats!
Congrats! :ohyeah:
Congrats, can't wait for your initial owner impressions. Welcome to the American G35!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIhUZvsgg4Y
Great looking choice.
(http://www.allfordmustangs.com/photopost/data/4985/medium/100_00442.jpg)
Best looking color on the new Mustangs I think. Good choice and Congrats.
If you think the RX-8's trunk is small then the Genesis is even smaller. It was one of the reasons I didn't look at them. Couldn't put my golf clubs in the back in it but could in the 8.
Excellent choice, just one thing... ask a Portuguese woman what "Kona" means. :lol:
I'll give you a hint. You just bought a cunt-blue Mustang. :rockon:
Quote from: Rockraven on July 13, 2010, 09:28:30 PM
Excellent choice, just one thing... ask a Portuguese woman what "Kona" means. :lol:
(http://www.bikemagic.com/news/images/kona06_stinky_big.jpg)
:huh:
Quote from: 68_427 on July 13, 2010, 09:32:05 PM
(http://www.bikemagic.com/news/images/kona06_stinky_big.jpg)
:huh:
My, what a lovely cunt. Do you ride it much?
I ride it pretty hard. The chain cam off though when I was pounding it.
Edit: OH YOU MEANT DO I RIDE A VAGINA MUCH
Quote from: 68_427 on July 13, 2010, 09:39:52 PM
I ride it pretty hard. The chain cam off though when I was pounding it.
That's called rape, sir.
Quote from: 2o6 on July 13, 2010, 09:41:38 PM
That's called rape, sir.
Only if she doesn't want to be ridden.
Quote from: 2o6 on July 13, 2010, 09:41:38 PM
That's called rape, sir.
No, that's when the seat flips up when you go over a jump.
Quote from: Rockraven on July 13, 2010, 09:29:47 PM
I'll give you a hint. You just bought a cunt-blue Mustang. :rockon:
So "kona" in Portugese = cunt
"kona" in Norwegian = the wife
Coincidence? I think not. :lol:
Quote from: Onslaught on July 13, 2010, 08:44:44 PM
If you think the RX-8's trunk is small then the Genesis is even smaller. It was one of the reasons I didn't look at them. Couldn't put my golf clubs in the back in it but could in the 8.
The trunk in the Genesis is quite a bit larger, though still not particularly big (10 cubic ft vs 7.6 in the RX). The small trunk in and of itself isn't a problem so long as the rear seats fold down to expand cargo capacity. Seats in the Genesis fold down (though the pass-through isn't very tall). The seats in the RX do not.
Quote from: mzziaz on July 14, 2010, 02:59:06 AM
So "kona" in Portugese = cunt
"kona" in Norwegian = the wife
Coincidence? I think not. :lol:
:lol:
Quote from: mzziaz on July 14, 2010, 02:59:06 AM
So "kona" in Portugese = cunt
"kona" in Norwegian = the wife
Coincidence? I think not. :lol:
Fart in English=flatulence
Fart in Norwegian=speed
Are Norwegians propelled forward by gas?
Quote from: MX793 on July 10, 2010, 08:45:03 PM
So last week I put a deposit down on a new car after what seemed like an eternity of looking. The dealer was unable to locate one spec'ed as I wanted (actually, they did find one at another dealership but it was already sold) so I had to have it ordered. From what I've been told, it'll take 6-8 weeks. I should have a better ETA in the coming weeks.
And the winner is:
2011 Ford Mustang V6 Premium.
6MT
Kona blue, black leather
3.31 final drive (the only option I spec'ed on it)
Congratulations. :ohyeah: I'm :praise: sure :ohyeah: Nethead :rockon: is :mrcool: bursting :rastaman: with :winkguy: pride. ;)
Quote from: MX793 on July 14, 2010, 04:17:28 AM
The trunk in the Genesis is quite a bit larger, though still not particularly big (10 cubic ft vs 7.6 in the RX). The small trunk in and of itself isn't a problem so long as the rear seats fold down to expand cargo capacity. Seats in the Genesis fold down (though the pass-through isn't very tall). The seats in the RX do not.
It's longer but not deep at all. I looked into both and you can fit more in the back of an RX-8. Now if you put the seats down then you can. But I don't think that's really fair to say that the truck has more room when you do that.
Quote from: Onslaught on July 15, 2010, 04:48:16 PM
It's longer but not deep at all. I looked into both and you can fit more in the back of an RX-8. Now if you put the seats down then you can. But I don't think that's really fair to say that the truck has more room when you do that.
Like I said, neither car's trunk is particularly large. But a small trunk in and of itself isn't a big deal so long as the seats fold so that I can carry longer items when I need to (something I've had to do several times in the past year alone). My 240SX had a smaller trunk than either of them, but drop the seats (plus the fact that it was a liftback) and it could carry a ton of stuff. Which begs the question: Why have companies almost completely stopped making liftback fastbacks/coupes?
Quote from: MX793 on July 15, 2010, 05:02:46 PM
Like I said, neither car's trunk is particularly large. But a small trunk in and of itself isn't a big deal so long as the seats fold so that I can carry longer items when I need to (something I've had to do several times in the past year alone). My 240SX had a smaller trunk than either of them, but drop the seats (plus the fact that it was a liftback) and it could carry a ton of stuff. Which begs the question: Why have companies almost completely stopped making liftback fastbacks/coupes?
I don't know. Perhaps they didn't sell all that well. I know why the seats in the RX-8 don't come down. I've used the little opening to put long things in the back before. But you can't put big stuff in.
Quote from: Laconian on July 15, 2010, 12:23:30 PM
Fart in English=flatulence
Fart in Norwegian=speed
Are Norwegians propelled forward by gas?
:lol: You are quickly reaching bilingual (or trilingual?) potential, I see :cheers:
Quote from: MX793 on July 15, 2010, 05:02:46 PM
Like I said, neither car's trunk is particularly large. But a small trunk in and of itself isn't a big deal so long as the seats fold so that I can carry longer items when I need to (something I've had to do several times in the past year alone). My 240SX had a smaller trunk than either of them, but drop the seats (plus the fact that it was a liftback) and it could carry a ton of stuff. Which begs the question: Why have companies almost completely stopped making liftback fastbacks/coupes?
Rigidity? Isn't that why Mazda said they could only make the Speed6 in sedan form and not wagon or hatch?
Quote from: Cobra93 on July 15, 2010, 01:40:52 PM
Congratulations. :ohyeah: I'm :praise: sure :ohyeah: Nethead :rockon: is :mrcool: bursting :rastaman: with :winkguy: pride. ;)
BANG!!! Yup, Cobra93's right again! ;)
How 'na Hell does everyone know whenever I'm gonna approve??? :huh:
What is this--a website for psychic automobile enthusiasts??? :confused:
MX793: The Nethead here said this to Hot Rod Pilot, and now I say it to you:
C O N G R A T U L A T I O N S, MXDude! You deserve a great car and now you've got it!
H O T D A M N!!! Go out, raise Hell, describe same in the thread after you've taken delivery!
Months of due deliberation has paid off! Great work, Dude! :rockon:
Quote from: Raza on July 16, 2010, 05:24:17 AM
Rigidity? Isn't that why Mazda said they could only make the Speed6 in sedan form and not wagon or hatch?
That's the most likely reason. You're going to take a rigidity hit unless you put a brace in there (like on the 350/370Z), and once you put the brace in you're throwing away a lot of trunk space/versatility. And that's exactly why the RX-8, and a handful of other performance cars (IIRC, the Lancer Evo) don't even have folding rear seats. They put a ton of bracing structure in behind the rear seats.
And it finally arrived!! Picked it up last night. Put nearly 200 miles on it between last night and today. Here's one shot I took this evening. I'll try to get some better shots in the near future.
(http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/5323/picture214edit.jpg)
Some remarks:
-The shorter, 3.31 gears make a huge difference. This car is much livelier than the 2.73 equipped car I test drove. Whereas the 2.73 gears make the car fairly easy to stall, with the 3.31s you can take off without even touching the throttle unless you're on an uphill and 2nd gear starts are possible without totally abusing the clutch (I prefer to take off in 2nd when I'm on a downhill). Yet, it still will loaf along at 70 mph at 2K RPM. In fact, even around town the car is happy running a gear high and just lugging along at 1600 RPM, even when pulling a decent grade hill. I've burned about half a tank and the computer is telling me I'm averaging 22 mpg (which I expect will continue to rise, it was in the single digits when I picked the car up and it only had 10 miles on it). I don't think I'll have too much trouble getting 25 mpg in mixed driving.
-For a V6, the exhaust note is quite burly/burbley. Particularly in the sub-4000 RPM range. And when you let off the gas from middle to high RPMs, it'll kind of "pop" like an old musclecar (search youtube for some vids on the stock V6 exhaust to hear what I mean).
-I had mixed opinions of the spot mirrors when I test drove, but after spending some real time in the car, I've grown to really like them.
-The "backwards" steering wheel controls are going to take some getting used to. I much prefer the layout in my Mazda (which is standard fare for pretty much any Asian brand car) where the radio controls are on the left and the cruise controls are on the right.
-A nit, but I've discovered that when you turn the cruise on, there is no light on the instrument cluster to indicate that it is on. The light only turns on when you press the "Set" button so that the cruise is actually active/engaged. If it's on but dormant (like if you were on cruise but had to hit the brakes), there's no light. But there's a separate "On" button for the cruise that you have to press before you can Set your speed. My Mazda has one light to indicate that cruise is on, and a second to indicate that it is engaged/active which I think does a better job of preventing confusion. I also wish there was a cancel button on the wheel like on my Mazda which disengages the cruise but doesn't turn it off (basically the same as hitting the brakes, but you don't have to hit the brakes). The only way to cancel the cruise without completely shutting it off is to touch the brakes.
Quote from: MX793 on September 10, 2010, 05:45:47 PM
-A nit, but I've discovered that when you turn the cruise on, there is no light on the instrument cluster to indicate that it is on. The light only turns on when you press the "Set" button so that the cruise is actually active/engaged. If it's on but dormant (like if you were on cruise but had to hit the brakes), there's no light. But there's a separate "On" button for the cruise that you have to press before you can Set your speed. My Mazda has one light to indicate that cruise is on, and a second to indicate that it is engaged/active which I think does a better job of preventing confusion. I also wish there was a cancel button on the wheel like on my Mazda which disengages the cruise but doesn't turn it off (basically the same as hitting the brakes, but you don't have to hit the brakes). The only way to cancel the cruise without completely shutting it off is to touch the brakes.
Congrats-
And that is a BIG nit. All cruises I've used had one light, to indicate it was "on"- then I have to guess if it's "engaged" or not. I too like the cancel button....
You could probably also tap the clutch to cancel the cruise; that's what I usually do (I don't have a cancel button either). My cruise never turns off (it has a button, but stays on even when you turn off and restart the car). This really throws me when I drive other cars.
very nice car btw.
Nice car! I love the color.
And quit complaining, my car doesn't even have cruise control (which is probably going to kill my leg) :devil:
This is the first V6 powered Stang I wouldn't be embarrassed to own. It's a runner. Nice car man. Between HotRodPilot, Cobra93, and you, I'm engulfed in jealousy. All I can hope is that when it's time for me to buy a used one, one of you guys will be looking to sell.
The Mustang club is making a comeback to do battle against the girly man Miata group.
Quote from: the Teuton on September 11, 2010, 12:00:53 AM
The Mustang club is making a comeback to do battle against the girly man Miata group.
:huh:
:lol:
Talk about a house divided...
hehe I was gonna say- why not joing both? :)
Quote from: Xer0 on July 10, 2010, 09:14:52 PM
Great color choice. Congrats, hope it gives you years of joy.
yes. new color for 2011! saw it in early "dealer brochures" for initial ordering - leaked to me by a ford dealer friend. the nice thing about a fresh color is marking it brand new for the current model year. that makes ownership even more fun and your vehicle a greater standout! congratulations, dude :clap: !
A few more photos I took this morning.
(http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/314/picture221.jpg)
(http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/4379/picture217edit.jpg)
(http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/7485/picture218edit.jpg)
(http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/673/picture223edit.jpg)
Also, a few more impressions:
-Took it down one of the twistier roads in the area (a favorite of mine when I'm on my bike) and pushed it a bit. This car is not as taught or as tossable as something like an RX-8 (or even my 3), but it still handles respectably. There's no denying that it's more GT car than featherweight go-kart. Considering how plush it feels, I was pleasantly surprised in the corners. It corners quite flatly, though the tall sidewall tires can make it feel a little vague/soft when transitioning from one corner to another. It seems to want you to take it a little easy on corner entry to let it take a set in the turn. I'm guessing a set of lower profile tires would be all you'd need to sharpen it up a bit. The steering is pretty numb, but it is precise and you can get some sense of what's going on where the rubber meets the road. I wonder how easy it would be to reprogram it to the GT's steering settings? I think I even had the ESP kick in on one turn where I came in a little hot. Only way I noticed it was because my foot happened to be ever so lightly on the brake and I felt some light pulsing.
-I also topped up the tank (I always try to fill up when my gauge shows 1/4 full) and was pleased with the mileage. 25.4 mpg on my first tank.
nice pics!
Still jealous. About the only thing that would make it better would be no car payment. :lol:
IIRC he paid cash
Yeah, some sticky tires with lower profile will definitely sharpen it up
Hopefully they come out with some kind of ECU flash that controls the steering assist. I'm happy I got the brembos just for the steering feel in sport mode. If it didn't have that, then in retrospect I would have passed on them.
MX793- better shocks might help w/corner entry stability too. My 1st Accord was on Konis/Neuspeeds and stock size 195/60s, and with the strong low speed damping it really felt rock solid in transitions. On the contrary, my dad's M45 is on low profile 18s and pretty weak shocks.... it inspires no confidence whatsoever. I remember in the M3 vs Mustang GT vid, they said the main weakness of the Mustang was the suspension being too soft, even on the 19s. I think shocks/springs are the answer. Keep the stock wheels and save $$$ on rubber
Quote from: HotRodPilot on September 11, 2010, 05:38:01 PM
IIRC he paid cash
Yeah, some sticky tires with lower profile will definitely sharpen it up
Hopefully they come out with some kind of ECU flash that controls the steering assist. I'm happy I got the brembos just for the steering feel in sport mode. If it didn't have that, then in retrospect I would have passed on them.
The nice thing about the electric assist steering is that changing the steering feel and weight is just a reflash away.
I really really like the Mustang V6. Nice pics!
I think you should get some slightly bigger wheels though... I know Ford has some great looking ones.
Congratulations. Great choice of car and color.
Quote from: sportyaccordy on September 12, 2010, 08:46:22 AM
MX793- better shocks might help w/corner entry stability too. My 1st Accord was on Konis/Neuspeeds and stock size 195/60s, and with the strong low speed damping it really felt rock solid in transitions. On the contrary, my dad's M45 is on low profile 18s and pretty weak shocks.... it inspires no confidence whatsoever. I remember in the M3 vs Mustang GT vid, they said the main weakness of the Mustang was the suspension being too soft, even on the 19s. I think shocks/springs are the answer. Keep the stock wheels and save $$$ on rubber
A firmer suspension would certainly tighten things up, though the Mustang's suspension woes I think come from it being too soft about the pitching axis, not the rolling. The squishiness I experienced was when entering corners at steady speed, or at the very least not while under particularly hard braking, so I don't think pitching softness was really a factor. The sensation was similar to the difference I noticed when I went from the OEM 205/50s to 215/50s with deeper, blockier tread on my Mazda. The car just felt slightly less sharp on initial turn in.
While part of me would love to swap in a firmer Ford Racing suspension setup, another side of me rather likes the Mustang's plushness on the rough roads around here. Once these tires wear out (or perhaps before), I intend to replace them with a wider tire. The stock 225s are just too narrow, IMO. I want to stick with a 17" rim to save on $$$, but would like to go up to a 235 width tire like what the earlier S197 GTs came with from the factory (I'd also like to toss on a set of 17" Torq-Thrust style wheels).
Hard to believe it's been 5 years (and a few days). Only put a little over 30K miles on it in that time, but I've enjoyed my time with this car. Sunday's auto-x was effectively the pony's last ride with me. Save for the drive to the dealer to trade it in next month (or so I'm told; build date was yesterday), I won't be driving it anymore. Inspection expires this week and I don't feel like paying 25 bucks to renew it when I'll be trading it in in just a couple of weeks. Yesterday, I swapped the OEM wheels and tires back on and cleaned out the interior.
We did pretty well Sunday on our farewell ride. I had the fasted PAX time at the end of the first heat, but ultimately fell back to 6th overall as others found more speed than I was able to in later heats and I just wasn't willing to push the car hard enough (and frankly, wasn't skilled enough) to maintain the top spot.
I've had a lot of fun autocrossing with this car, even the two seasons I ran on the frustratingly lo-po factory all-seasons (620 tread wear rated!), as well as daily driving it through the springs, summers, and falls. 5 full seasons of auto-x, 4 local class titles, 1 local overall top-5 season and 2 local overall top-10 seasons. I hope I'll be able to generate comparable, or superior, results with it's replacement next season. I expect next season will be something of a learning season as I adapt to a new car, so I'll need to set expectations accordingly.
As I was searching to find this thread, I stumbled across some earlier discussions of the then new 2011 3.7L V6 Mustang and was surprised how critical I was of the car back then, before driving and then buying one. My recollection is that I'd always been pretty positive about the V6 Mustang when the 2011 powertrain updates had been announced. I gave it a lot of flack for its pricing scheme, especially when compared to the performance, content, and price combination of the V6 Genesis Coupe. Of course, then I drove both cars and opinions changed significantly. Though my opinion that the base interior in 2011 was inexcusably cheap still stands. Interestingly, some of the things I said Ford should do to the base interior to raise its curb appeal ended up happening in later S197s. Specifically the addition of a leather wrapped and aluminum trimmed wheel and shifter to base trims.
Some parting thoughts and observations based on my time with the car:
-I've loved the 3.7 V6 since day one, and still am a big fan of that motor. Broad torque curve and plenty of power practically everywhere. Exhaust note can get a little harsh as you get up around 6500 RPM, but sounds very good everywhere else. I've gotten numerous unsolicited complements on the (completely stock) exhaust note. All that, plus surprising fuel efficiency. I took 3 interstate road trips, each over 600 miles round trip, and averaged solidly over 30 MPG each time. Best tank was 35 mpg. It saddens me that Ford seems to be doing their best to discontinue this motor in the Mustang. I might have considered getting another one if it were still available with the premium trim and performance pack.
-The MT-82 transmission gets a lot of flack, but overall I never had any real issues with it. When temperatures got below 50F it could be a little rough until things got up to temp, with some light gear crunching felt through the lever when shifting up from 1st into 2nd, but that's probably my biggest complaint. Otherwise, it's a tight, precise pattern with positive engagement.
-Overall, the suspension is softer than I would have liked. While body roll is pretty well controlled but the car is too soft in the pitching axis. Particularly nose dive under hard braking. Despite the softness of the suspension making the car a little sluggish to react, it's more nimble than one would expect. Part of me wishes I'd waited and sprung for the performance pack and its upgraded suspension, but another part thinks it would have significantly compromised the relatively good ride quality and then I'd be complaining that the suspension was too stiff/harsh.
-Live axle wasn't nearly the detriment that a lot of people make it out to be. It has its weaknesses, and I'll take a well sorted IRS any day, but a well-done LRA can work plenty well. Where I noticed it the most was on extremely choppy pavement (like railroad track crossings) and on large, crosswise bumps like speed bumps or very large frost heaves. The front would soak them up without much drama, but the rear would dance over the former and buck on the latter.
-Coming from a nimble and communicative Mazda3, the steering is numb and the ratio is a bit slow and the effort is a shade lighter than I'd like. It is, however, quite accurate. I prefer it to the Jetta's steering rack, which is just as numb, just as slow (if not a hair slower), but noticeably higher effort.
-I'm shocked that I haven't yet worn through the original brake pads given how I've driven the car. Stopping power is pretty decent, too.
-Given the size of the car and interior, storage/cubby space is very limited. The door pockets are tiny, as is the glove box. There's no built in storage compartment for sunglasses as with many cars. The dash volume is huge; there's no reason why the glove box is so small that it can barely fit the owner's manual and a pair of gloves.
-The latch release button for the arm rest storage compartment is horribly placed. I frequently would hit it with my elbow while driving, resulting in the compartment door springing open. I noticed they fixed that for the 2015s by moving the release mechanism.
-I really like the original SYNC1 system in this car. I didn't use it to its fullest extent, but the functionality I did utilize worked almost flawlessly and I found it legitimately useful rather than a gimmick or an irritation that detracted from the car.
-The fact that the front seats don't slide forward when the seatback is tilted forward to permit rear passengers in and out of the car is frustratingly stupid. My 1992 240SX had a release that allowed the seats to move forward when the seatback was canted forward. I remember other 2-door cars of the late 80s to mid 90s doing the same. Why, some 20 years later, a car wouldn't do this is beyond me. You could argue that it's harder to implement with a power seat, as the Mustang's drivers seat is, but the passenger's seat mechanism is completely manual.
-The factory windshield wipers were awesome, but wore out way too quickly.
-I'm glad I didn't drive this car in the winter, because there are a number of "features" that make it ill suited to being outside in snowier climates that I discovered the few times we got a late or early season snow. First, the windshield washers are on the underside of the hood in the pocket where the cabin fresh air inlet is at the base of the windshield. If you live where it snows a lot and park your car outside, this is the same area were snow will collect, melt partially into slush, and then freeze into a solid block of ice. I would note that the Mustang is not the only car guilty of this, as this seems to be the route many cars are going with washer nozzle placement. My Jetta is that way, and to its credit, the washer nozzles don't get encapsulated in ice as often as I would have expected. Second, there are troughs at the base of the door windows that will also collect water/slush which will freeze solid and jam the window mechanism. This is not only frustrating when you pull up to a drive through window and find you can't roll your window down, but also puts stress on the window when opening and closing the door. The frameless windows are designed to tuck into the door arch for a better wind seal and automatically motor down half and inch when the doors are opened and then motor up closed when the door is shut. If the window mechanism is frozen, you end up stressing things and you basically force the glass past the hard rubber wind seal lip.
How are you not gonna tell us what you got
brum :cheers:
Quote from: CALL_911 on September 29, 2015, 08:04:27 PM
How are you not gonna tell us what you got
Yeah seriously. Fuck this guy :lol:
Thanks for the long term review. I really like the Mustang.
Very impressive autocross results, too. That is due to the driver mostly so respect.
I say he's getting some sort of Cayman.
Quote from: MrH on September 29, 2015, 08:22:43 PM
Yeah seriously. Fuck this guy :lol:
Agreed, suspense on a goddamn car forum is silly
I'm gonna guess BMW 2
Quote from: CALL_911 on September 29, 2015, 08:27:59 PM
Agreed, suspense on a goddamn car forum is silly
I'm gonna guess BMW 2
It's only a couple of weeks (I hope). I put my order in over 8 weeks ago, so imagine my anticipation.
228 or 235? Man, I'm actually curious to know what you got
My money says he's switching to a Camaro!!
Miata.
Mustang V8 is my guess
I would guess Miata but something tells me it's not... I'm going to guess 2 series as well, with a hope it's either a Cayman or Hellcat.
Subie?
:lol: