This is the MMC for the USDM 2011 MY Corolla.
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(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2010/11/17-corolla.jpg)
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Decipher that sentence.
You're a fucking idiot.
And the front looks like a first gen Mazda3.
Dass sum nice shiny red paint thar.
Quote from: the Teuton on November 18, 2010, 06:50:57 PM
You're a fucking idiot.
And the front looks like a first gen Mazda3.
And the tail lights look like a downsized version of what was on the 1st gen Mazda6.
MMC = Mid Model Change
As far as I can see with the interior, all they changed was the radio, the seat fabric, and the floor mats...lol...floor mats...Toyota...sorry, my laugh was unintended.
I like the 2001 better :huh:.
(http://static.cargurus.com/images/site/2008/04/06/10/45/2001_toyota_corolla_ce-pic-26003.jpeg)
Quote from: FoMoJo on November 18, 2010, 07:21:18 PM
I like the 2001 better :huh:.
(http://static.cargurus.com/images/site/2008/04/06/10/45/2001_toyota_corolla_ce-pic-26003.jpeg)
I hate that gen with a passion. This is my least favorite car.
Quote from: FoMoJo on November 18, 2010, 07:21:18 PM
I like the 2001 better :huh:.
(http://static.cargurus.com/images/site/2008/04/06/10/45/2001_toyota_corolla_ce-pic-26003.jpeg)
Got two coworkers with these. It's an efficient little vehicle. High quality. Simple. Good materials for the price range. Comfortable.
This new one is just ugly. Jesus.
A Japanese car can't be "USDM." "DM" refers to its own domestic market.
Quote from: ifcar on November 18, 2010, 07:47:24 PM
A Japanese car can't be "USDM." "DM" refers to its own domestic market.
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I'll take the one in between.
Quote from: ifcar on November 18, 2010, 07:47:24 PM
A Japanese car can't be "USDM." "DM" refers to its own domestic market.
Pwnt.
Quote from: the Teuton on November 18, 2010, 07:51:09 PM
I'll take the one in between.
I'll take that gen's Corolla XRS.
Fuck that, I wouldn't buy a Corolla.
Quote from: CALL_911 on November 18, 2010, 07:59:03 PM
I'll take that gen's Corolla XRS.
Fuck that, I wouldn't buy a Corolla.
It's not a bad car. For a DD, I'd take one to replace the PlastiCar. It's boring, but it does nothing badly.
Quote from: the Teuton on November 18, 2010, 08:01:09 PM
It's not a bad car. For a DD, I'd take one to replace the PlastiCar. It's boring, but it does nothing badly.
The driver-steering wheel relationship in that car is all wrong. Footwell is too shallow, and the steering column is too short.
I'm short; it's cool.
At least we know where all the Pontiac designers went.
MMC = Maximum Material Condition
MMC = Mixed Martial Cuddling
GMAPVOGMD. :praise:
I read that Toyota had approached "the italians" to help make the Corolla look "more interesting" and less Camry like.......
Well, either they approached Zanussi and found the person who designs their washing machines, or the Italians knew exactly what they were doing, and offered all forms of help short of any assistance. This is still utter yawnsville..........
Looking at this makes me sleepy.
not a fan, but millions disagree. toyota knows the market and has an enormous following. many will think they have died and gone to heaven when the '11 makes it to dealerships everywhere. i bet sales will increase and the car will make the top ten, as in the past. mission accomplished? umm... not by g. w. bush's standards... by toyota's and countless americans.
Quote from: 2o6 on November 18, 2010, 08:11:08 PM
The driver-steering wheel relationship in that car is all wrong. Footwell is too shallow, and the steering column is too short.
I actually liked driving my (ex)girlfriend's mom's Corolla. It seemed to fit me well. And it was like driving a golf car after driving the Bravvy. Tossed that bugger around. :rockon:
MMC = Masturbating Monkey Channel.
:confused:
Quote from: 2o6 on November 18, 2010, 07:42:21 PM
I hate that gen with a passion. This is my least favorite car.
Mechanically, they're pretty much the same car
Quote from: sportyaccordy on November 19, 2010, 12:37:09 PM
Mechanically, they're pretty much the same car
Platform: HECK No. The 1998-2002 is a textbook example of poor space management, while the 2003+ actually uses it's space remarkably well.
Engine: Both use the 1ZZ.
The new front bumper/grille does look very Mazda esque. That said, I hated this generation of Corolla. Changing its styling ever so slightly isn't going to make it a more satisfying car.
Quote from: thewizard16 on November 20, 2010, 01:18:13 AM
The new front bumper/grille does look very Mazda esque. That said, I hated this generation of Corolla. Changing its styling ever so slightly isn't going to make it a more satisfying car.
not for us, but it might be the equivalent to an orgasm for a toyota loyalist!
MMC = Mitsubishi Motors Corp. ;)
It looks better than the last Corolla, but some tacky details seem to scream "we're trying so hard to appear sporty" like the taillights and the flat-bottom steering wheel.
Other than the usual criticism that I have of most compact cars today (that is, they're dopey looking because they're too tall for their length) it will probably sell like mad and be a happy, long lived appliance for those who like painless cars.
Quote from: 2o6 on November 19, 2010, 04:34:41 PM
Platform: HECK No. The 1998-2002 is a textbook example of poor space management, while the 2003+ actually uses it's space remarkably well.
Engine: Both use the 1ZZ.
13 year old 1ZZ engine
Basic same suspension
It's like how the Civic continued with the same engine and suspensions from 1988 to 2000. However, the Civic's engines were competitive that whole time (the 1ZZ is wholly outdated, ESPECIALLY w/the 4AT), and the suspensions in those are still pretty advanced. The Corolla was barely competitive 13 years ago; it's pretty much a dinosaur now
Suspension parts? Which ones? They both use the same basic ubiquitous design as most other FWD compacts.....
2003+ cars were one of the better cars on the market.....It'd take it over a Civic of the same vintage.
On a side note, Toyota slipped a torquier 2.0 engine under the bonnet of upper-trim Corollas here - a refreshing change from engine downsizing.
Quote from: sportyaccordy on November 20, 2010, 09:26:27 PM
13 year old 1ZZ engine
Basic same suspension
It's like how the Civic continued with the same engine and suspensions from 1988 to 2000. However, the Civic's engines were competitive that whole time (the 1ZZ is wholly outdated, ESPECIALLY w/the 4AT), and the suspensions in those are still pretty advanced. The Corolla was barely competitive 13 years ago; it's pretty much a dinosaur now
Corollas are competitive in areas that its target market cares about. i.e. interior space, fuel economy, reliability, etc.
Quote from: Atomic on November 20, 2010, 11:39:59 AM
not for us, but it might be the equivalent to an orgasm for a toyota loyalist!
You aren't forgetting the mini-fleet of Camries I've helped add to Toyota's sales, are you? ;)
I'm probably one of the bigger fans of Toyota on here, they've been very good to me thus far. However, I absolutely hate the new Corolla. I rather liked the last generation, but this one felt cheaper, more top heavy, and noisier. I was driving a cheaper trim level than the last gen I had for a bit, but the handling, feeling of general instability, and overall annoyance with the car led to me telling the Hertz manager to never give me one of those again. She did mention that she's had several of her more frequent renters complain about the new Corollas, so I'm not alone on that front.
Quote from: omicron on November 21, 2010, 07:07:16 AM
On a side note, Toyota slipped a torquier 2.0 engine under the bonnet of upper-trim Corollas here - a refreshing change from engine downsizing.
We get a 2.4. Suck it, Austria!
:lol:
Of course my Mazda has a 2.5, so Toyota Corolla owners across the globe can suck it.
Quote from: 93JC on November 21, 2010, 09:02:00 PM
We get a 2.4. Suck it, Austria!
Could that be the first time anyone has ever boasted about the fitment of a Camry 4?
Quote from: Vinsanity on November 21, 2010, 06:12:43 PM
Corollas are competitive in areas that its target market cares about. i.e. interior space, fuel economy, reliability, etc.
Well, for their level of development, I think they're way overpriced. Civic's got a new motor + 5AT. Sentra's got a new motor + CVT. Cobalt, new motor, 6AT. Focus is gonna be a whole new car next year. Corolla's priced pretty much the same as all those cars w/a 13 year old motor and relatively underdeveloped suspension. Just seems a lil goofy to me
Quote from: sportyaccordy on November 22, 2010, 07:47:36 AM
Well, for their level of development, I think they're way overpriced. Civic's got a new motor + 5AT. Sentra's got a new motor + CVT. Cobalt, new motor, 6AT. Focus is gonna be a whole new car next year. Corolla's priced pretty much the same as all those cars w/a 13 year old motor and relatively underdeveloped suspension. Just seems a lil goofy to me
buyers in this segment don't care as much for how new a design the engine is, or how many gears the automatic transmission has, compared to how much fuel it uses and how much they'll have to spend on maintenance. A 13-year-old engine can be an advantage in being a proven design with cheap and plentiful replacement parts.
Quote from: Vinsanity on November 22, 2010, 11:19:33 AM
buyers in this segment don't care as much for how new a design the engine is, or how many gears the automatic transmission has, compared to how much fuel it uses and how much they'll have to spend on maintenance. A 13-year-old engine can be an advantage in being a proven design with cheap and plentiful replacement parts.
All of which leads to a superior low cost of ownership. Corollas will just keep rolling if you do simple maintenance. As much as I loathe it, it will not cost you much to operate once being owned.
I rented a Corolla the last time I was in Wisconsin. The most interesting part of the car was the enormous dried booger stuck to the side of the driver's seat. It definitely livened up the drab gray interior, & I was grateful to the Avis cleaning crew that had decided to leave it in place.