Right about the time I'd decided that my S2k plan would be a better idea next year my buddy found another toy.
He just traded '92 NSX in on an Imola '02 NSX-T. Very quick decision for him based a lot on the rare color.
I wish I would have had the coin to pick up his '92, but that made even less sense than the S2k right now...
Pics to follow....
Bro, as long as you don't crash it, NSX ownership is no more expensive than an S2K. It's a 2 seater, the S2K's a 2 seater... I say if you have the means, go for it.
What does "NA" mean anyway?
Chassis code. Hondas are generally two letters and a number. The car in my sig is a "CB7"- CB indicating it's a 4th gen Accord, 7 being tied to its trim (American LX/EX sedan)
Quote from: sportyaccordy on March 29, 2011, 07:22:09 AM
Bro, as long as you don't crash it, NSX ownership is no more expensive than an S2K. It's a 2 seater, the S2K's a 2 seater... I say if you have the means, go for it.
The S2k I looked at was definitely doable, at roughly 10k + my RSX as trade.
Buying his NA1 from him would have been double that, just not smart for me at the moment.
Pic as promised.
(http://www.nsxprime.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=75723&d=1301363995)
Maybe his NA1.... but there are ones w/higher mileage that are still roadworthy that would be halfway between his NSX and the S2K u looked at....
:benstillerDOIT:
My friend had 2 NA1 and currently has a NA2. His first NA1, after he bought it, found out had frame damage so he sold it and got another, but when they annouced that 2006 was the last year for the NSX, he decided he has to have it since he has a thing for last year models.
And after 5 years of ownership.. the car has 800ish miles on it. And its had 10 oil changes already.......
Nice car, but honestly, the interior feels really dated. And the antenna looks really really really out of place.
I would do awful things for that car.
+1 to everything Sporty said, do it, VTEC, do it. Resistance is futile.
Quote from: CALL_911 on March 29, 2011, 04:07:20 PM
I would do awful things for that car.
+1 to everything Sporty said, do it, VTEC, do it. Resistance is futile.
I have to say though, the S2k has a better fun factor than a NA1.
Quote from: NomisR on March 29, 2011, 02:41:50 PM
My friend had 2 NA1 and currently has a NA2. His first NA1, after he bought it, found out had frame damage so he sold it and got another, but when they annouced that 2006 was the last year for the NSX, he decided he has to have it since he has a thing for last year models.
And after 5 years of ownership.. the car has 800ish miles on it. And its had 10 oil changes already.......
Nice car, but honestly, the interior feels really dated. And the antenna looks really really really out of place.
You don't buy an NSX for an up to date anything.
It's a timeless classic that epitomizes the best Honda had to offer in its prime. It's dated interior conjures the spirit of primetime Hondas like the DC2 ITR.
It's appeal will run deeper for someone who appreciates the VTEC philosophy & is already interested in an S2K. I haven't driven an NSX, but I have driven an AP1 and I imagine an NSX being like an S2K with more power, better handling and worse visibility. If I could I would def buy one now
Quote from: sportyaccordy on March 29, 2011, 04:31:30 PM
You don't buy an NSX for an up to date anything.
It's a timeless classic that epitomizes the best Honda had to offer in its prime. It's dated interior conjures the spirit of primetime Hondas like the DC2 ITR.
It's appeal will run deeper for someone who appreciates the VTEC philosophy & is already interested in an S2K. I haven't driven an NSX, but I have driven an AP1 and I imagine an NSX being like an S2K with more power, better handling and worse visibility. If I could I would def buy one now
Well, the NSX would work better as an everyday car than a S2K would. I think a comparison of Boxster vs 911 Carrera would probably be fitting. For a fun car, the S2k would be more fun..
Quote from: VTEC_Inside on March 29, 2011, 09:09:45 AM
The S2k I looked at was definitely doable, at roughly 10k + my RSX as trade.
Buying his NA1 from him would have been double that, just not smart for me at the moment.
Pic as promised.
(http://www.nsxprime.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=75723&d=1301363995)
Is it me or does the NA1 look better than the NA2?
Quote from: gotta-qik-z28 on March 29, 2011, 06:21:31 PM
Is it me or does the NA1 look better than the NA2?
It's not just you. Pop up headlamp NSX's look 8 million times better then the ugly ass fixed headlamp ones.
Quote from: NomisR on March 29, 2011, 02:41:50 PM
Nice car, but honestly ... the antenna looks really really really out of place.
Might as well light that piece of shit on fire then. :rastaman:
Quote from: Tave on March 30, 2011, 11:32:53 AM
Might as well light that piece of shit on fire then. :rastaman:
Spin at work, taking everything out of context.. nice
I was just joking. But in all seriousness, those gripes are pretty minor. The interior feels dated because it is dated; it's a used car with an old design. If the antenna is your only other complaint, I don't see why that would sway anyone.
Quote from: Tave on March 30, 2011, 11:47:38 AM
I was just joking. But in all seriousness, those gripes are pretty minor. The interior feels dated because it is dated; it's a used car with an old design. If the antenna is your only other complaint, I don't see why that would sway anyone.
Well, it's not really a complain, just a comment. But honestly, with the cost of the car at $90k, they could've at least done a minor update on the interior and gotten rid of the antenna, it wouldn't have been expensive.
Man I'm getting old. I think 90's interiors look better then the new ones. I like the inside of the NSX, RX-7 and 300Z more then modern cars.
Quote from: Onslaught on March 30, 2011, 03:14:14 PM
Man I'm getting old. I think 90's interiors look better then the new ones. I like the inside of the NSX, RX-7 and 300Z more then modern cars.
There's one thing you're right about though, I'm not too fond of all the excess faux aluminum and large touch screens in modern cars.
The actual trade went down today. He let me drive his NA1 out there.
I think you are on to something sporty. The s2k was nice but didn't feel different enough from my RSX-S. The NSX was an f'n blast. The steering and braking is just on a completely different level.
I took it pretty easy since he traded it in with the original wheels wrapped in 9 yr old dunlops, but I did give it one last hurrah onto the final offramp, dropped to 3rd at 100kph and let that ride to 170kph. Scrubbed that back down to 90kph in what seemed like an instant and cruised the remaining 2 blocks to the dealer in the same gear.
Amazing experience.
I brought my camera today so I've got a bunch more pics of both cars that I'll post later. The Imola orange looks crazy in the sun.
I like the S2000. But if I had to pick between these two I'd take the NSX every time.
That said I'm not so sure sporty is correct about the repair cost being about the same in the NSX. But I wouldn't give a fuck about that anyway.
(http://i41.tinypic.com/2148rkn.jpg)
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4123/4806588891_a2c2d4ec4a_o.jpg)
(http://www.nsxprime.com/photopost/data/936/Imola_1.jpg)
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4094/4766636970_58205fd519_b.jpg)
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4139/4765998659_f8a97cfec7_b.jpg)
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4096/4766637838_115bb58b34_b.jpg)
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4131/5152869881_3943cd2671_b.jpg)
I came.
Quote from: Onslaught on March 30, 2011, 03:37:23 PM
I like the S2000. But if I had to pick between these two I'd take the NSX every time.
That said I'm not so sure sporty is correct about the repair cost being about the same in the NSX. But I wouldn't give a fuck about that anyway.
Well body work is much more expensive. But maintenance is good old Honda. Plus the OG ones are on like 16s :lol:
Quote from: VTEC_Inside on March 30, 2011, 03:29:54 PM
I think you are on to something sporty. The s2k was nice but didn't feel different enough from my RSX-S. The NSX was an f'n blast. The steering and braking is just on a completely different level.
I read a review once that said out of VTEC the AP1 was about as exciting as an Accord. My friend who has an AP1 agreed with me in that my old H22A Accord had more midrange punch (but the AP1 had the top end advantage) :lol:
An NSX weighs about the same as both cars and has a good 50-100 HP + significantly lighter nose than both.... it's a no brainer. On paper it sounds perfect for Honda fans
Is it lowered or is that the stock ride height?
How come in one of the pics the calipers are blue but in the rest they're that burnt orange color?
Those are random NSX's in that orange color.
I see the differant rims now.
Quote from: gotta-qik-z28 on March 30, 2011, 07:28:29 PM
I see the differant rims now.
The Honda NSX is the same car, but with different rims.
Quote from: sportyaccordy on March 30, 2011, 06:01:05 PM
Well body work is much more expensive. But maintenance is good old Honda. Plus the OG ones are on like 16s :lol
Well I've looked into NSX's before. If I can't find an RX-7 then one day I'd look into an NSX. And from what I found they are very reliable. But if something needs to be worked on it will cost you an ass load in parts and time.
Probably just because THEY CAN charge you more when you dive an NSX.
That and working on a mid engine car can be more of a pain in the ass sometimes.
Maintenance wouldn't be a big issue. We already know an NSX tech that does work at his home. He replaced the transmission case on the NA1 when the snap ring went. It cost my buddy about $3000, but it would have been almost double that at a dealer.
Anyway some pics....
The NA1 days after he got it:
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y283/VTEC_Inside/NSX/stDSC_8738.jpg?t=1301545104)
Crappier weather, but tried to match the angle with the new one:
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y283/VTEC_Inside/NA1%20to%20NA2/sDSC_2393.jpg?t=1301545060)
Others:
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y283/VTEC_Inside/NA1%20to%20NA2/sDSC_2361.jpg?t=1301545386)
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y283/VTEC_Inside/NA1%20to%20NA2/sDSC_2343.jpg?t=1301545419)
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y283/VTEC_Inside/NA1%20to%20NA2/sDSC_2369.jpg?t=1301545451)
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y283/VTEC_Inside/NA1%20to%20NA2/sDSC_2395.jpg?t=1301545479)
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y283/VTEC_Inside/NA1%20to%20NA2/sDSC_2379.jpg?t=1301545502)
Not crazy about the angle on this pic, but the color... damn..
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y283/VTEC_Inside/NA1%20to%20NA2/sDSC_2367.jpg?t=1301545535)
:JIZZ:
I really, really like that color.
Reminds me of Gran Turismo... great pics
Quote from: Onslaught on March 30, 2011, 08:08:44 PM
Well I've looked into NSX's before. If I can't find an RX-7 then one day I'd look into an NSX. And from what I found they are very reliable. But if something needs to be worked on it will cost you an ass load in parts and time.
Probably just because THEY CAN charge you more when you dive an NSX.
That and working on a mid engine car can be more of a pain in the ass sometimes.
U can turn a wrench. Plus u wont have to replace much outside of wear n tear stuff.
Quote from: sportyaccordy on March 31, 2011, 12:48:02 PM
Reminds me of Gran Turismo... great pics
U can turn a wrench. Plus u wont have to replace much outside of wear n tear stuff.
Yea, but I don't have a lift at the house. So I won't be turning any wrench on any car.
I wasn't saying that I wouldn't get one because of cost of repair. I just said I think they cost more to work on then an S2000.
I want an FD, cost of repair isn't something I even look at!
Holy wheel-gap, Batman!
Otherwise, sweet!
Sexy Taurus SHO!
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y283/VTEC_Inside/NA1%20to%20NA2/sDSC_2395.jpg?t=1301545479)
This is an excellent thread.
Buy NSX.
Fin.
Quote from: the Teuton on April 01, 2011, 12:04:25 AM
Sexy Taurus SHO!
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y283/VTEC_Inside/NA1%20to%20NA2/sDSC_2395.jpg?t=1301545479)
Lol, that's his '93 ATX. It's seen better days. He has a '95 MTX for a daily. I drove that back from the dealer. Still a fun car on it's own right.
2 NRVOUS?
What does that even mean...? (I know, it means "too nervous," but why would you put that as your license plate...)
Quote from: giant_mtb on April 01, 2011, 08:23:55 AM
2 NRVOUS?
What does that even mean...? (I know, it means "too nervous," but why would you put that as your license plate...)
Its my fault... I came up with "ALLALLOY" originally, which he bought, but then it bugged him because technically steel is an alloy as well.
Then I did this one in Photoshop to copy the Ferrari from Ferris Bueller.
(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/12303_10150181863115035_825205034_12416830_5751532_n.jpg)
He tried to get NRVOUS, but not available, so "2 NRVOUS" it was...
Now he's toying with getting "1 OF 2" as there were only 2 Canadian market NSXs painted that color from the factory (according to what the community knows).
Quote from: gotta-qik-z28 on March 29, 2011, 06:21:31 PM
Is it me or does the NA1 look better than the NA2?
The fixed lamps look a bit like an afterthought. Which they are, so it's fitting. I prefer the original model.
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4123/4806588891_a2c2d4ec4a_o.jpg)
You can tell in that picture especially that those headlights aren't meant to be there.
Raza is correct. I find that the original design is almost always better looking then the face lift ones on any car. And the NSX's fixed headlamps just look wrong like it was never supposed to have them. Because it wasn't.
Just off the top of my head I can think of many cars that the original looked better
FD- RX-7
NC Miata
NSX
RX-8
3000GT
Believe it or not, the top speed of the NSX actually increased when aerodynamic mods were made, including the fixed headlights. It went from 168 mph to 175 or something like that.
Quote from: the Teuton on April 02, 2011, 10:45:06 AM
Believe it or not, the top speed of the NSX actually increased when aerodynamic mods were made, including the fixed headlights. It went from 168 mph to 175 or something like that.
Evidently the little "wing" insert under the main one at the rear was responsible for some of that increase. You can see it in the rear 3/4 view up there.
Quote from: the Teuton on April 02, 2011, 10:45:06 AM
Believe it or not, the top speed of the NSX actually increased when aerodynamic mods were made, including the fixed headlights. It went from 168 mph to 175 or something like that.
Don't care. The original still looks much better.
Plus BiXenon lighting is pure win from a visibility perspective. But I do agree it spoils the looks a bit.
Quote from: Onslaught on April 02, 2011, 12:33:53 PM
Don't care. The original still looks much better.
+1
As far as exposed headlights go, those are inoffensive, so I wouldn't care one way or the other.
Quote from: Tave on April 02, 2011, 01:29:22 PM
As far as exposed headlights go, those are inoffensive, so I wouldn't care one way or the other.
It's not just the lights but the whole bumper cover redesign is ugly. It would have looked better with the same bumper from the NA1 and a headlight design kinda like the 300ZX had.
I really hope the headlights aren't a full on deal breaker for you guys
I like the redesigned version better.
:huh:
:mrcool:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfjCCreVIow
Quote from: sportyaccordy on April 02, 2011, 04:25:17 PM
I really hope the headlights aren't a full on deal breaker for you guys
They are for me. I can't stand the front end on the fix lamp NSX. I'd pay even more for the pop up one even if it's older.
I couldn't look at the car if I had one. That's how much I don't like it.
Damn and blast. Now I want an NSX. How I miss thee, cashed-up Japan!
Quote from: Onslaught on April 02, 2011, 10:49:18 PM
They are for me. I can't stand the front end on the fix lamp NSX. I'd pay even more for the pop up one even if it's older.
I couldn't look at the car if I had one. That's how much I don't like it.
Wow.
Quote from: sportyaccordy on April 02, 2011, 04:25:17 PM
I really hope the headlights aren't a full on deal breaker for you guys
Yeah, they are. Why pay more for an uglier version?
Because it's a better car.
Quote from: 68_427 on April 03, 2011, 09:20:53 AM
Because it's a better car.
Define better. Higher top speed? Oh wow, yeah. When I had my Boxster, I was topping out around 170 everyday. I always missed those extra 5mph.
The 3.2L and 6 speed is just a better combination, and it's more refined in about every aspect including ride and handling.
Quote from: 68_427 on April 03, 2011, 09:25:32 AM
The 3.2L and 6 speed is just a better combination, and it's more refined in about every aspect including ride and handling.
Don't care. It's still ugly.
Get a newer version and swap in some pop up lights.
It's not that easy. The hood, fenders, bumper, and lights are different.
Get the better looking first gen and put the motor and 6 speed in it. Or just keep it as it is because the original is just fine. And looks so much better it's not even funny.
Or I'll not care and have fun driving either version.
Much easier than that folks..
The 3.2L and 6spd started in '97, so there are 5 full model years of the original look and updated drivetrain.
Quote from: VTEC_Inside on April 03, 2011, 02:56:20 PM
Much easier than that folks..
The 3.2L and 6spd started in '97, so there are 5 full model years of the original look and updated drivetrain.
Ah I thought it still had the 5 speed. I could still really care whether I have an NA1/2 as long as I have an NSX.