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Title: Oil change
Post by: AutobahnSHO on November 10, 2012, 01:20:11 PM
So finally amassed all the tools to do oil in my garage- jack, jackstands, drainpan, filter wrench.

Cost me $19 to do the van, I need to do the Subie in a week or two (motorswap guy recommended because of any leftover solvents etc... from the swap and seals change.) And with 3 cars now I can't afford to be spending a ton of money on maintenance.

I used to take it to the Army's garage, but at $6/hr for lift, plus the 20min one-way drive, it's just so much more convenient to stay home. Even if I'm sliding on the floor on my back and now have to take the oil to them for disposal.

Nothing like the satisfaction in having done something yourself.
(And the horror to realize the filter on the van is one you didn't put on there yourself- and the last time the wife paid for a change was January and 10k miles ago!.!.!.!)
Title: Re: Oil change
Post by: Speed_Racer on November 10, 2012, 01:54:37 PM
It's definitely worth the piece of mind, since most oil shop lackeys seem to forget the basics like refilling the oil or not replacing the oil fill cap.
Title: Re: Oil change
Post by: giant_mtb on November 10, 2012, 02:55:23 PM
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on November 10, 2012, 01:20:11 PM

Even if I'm sliding on the floor on my back and now have to take the oil to them for disposal.

My parents got me one of these for Christmas last year...works excellently as a creeper and having a low-ish seat for cleaning wheels, tires, and waxing/buffing the lower portions of vehicles is extremely nice.  I think they can be had for about $40, which I feel is well worth it.

(https://images.truevalue.com/getimage_new.asp?id=151756&ImageType=2&NoImageType=2&ColorImageSize=3&LineArtImageSize=3)
Title: Re: Oil change
Post by: AutobahnSHO on November 10, 2012, 03:13:43 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on November 10, 2012, 02:55:23 PM
My parents got me one of these for Christmas last year...works excellently as a creeper and having a low-ish seat for cleaning wheels, tires, and waxing/buffing the lower portions of vehicles is extremely nice.  I think they can be had for about $40, which I feel is well worth it.

(https://images.truevalue.com/getimage_new.asp?id=151756&ImageType=2&NoImageType=2&ColorImageSize=3&LineArtImageSize=3)

I thought about a creeper but I didn't lift the van up high, I wouldn't fit under it with a creeper.

The garage floor is clean but I will still be washing my clothes afterwards anyway.
Title: Re: Oil change
Post by: Rupert on November 10, 2012, 10:47:59 PM
Get one of those crappy blue foam camping mats to lay down on. Keeps you out of the muck and insulates, too (really nice if you're under there for a while).
Title: Re: Oil change
Post by: Rupert on November 10, 2012, 10:48:49 PM
Quote from: Speed_Racer on November 10, 2012, 01:54:37 PM
It's definitely worth the piece of mind, since most oil shop lackeys seem to forget the basics like refilling the oil or not replacing the oil fill cap.

Which piece? I hope it's the amygdala, because it's fun to say.
Title: Re: Oil change
Post by: VTEC_Inside on November 14, 2012, 05:36:17 PM
I just use a set of rhino ramps vs jack and stands for oil changes.
Title: Re: Oil change
Post by: S204STi on November 14, 2012, 07:44:30 PM
Ditto.
Title: Re: Oil change
Post by: Rupert on November 14, 2012, 08:35:45 PM
Yeah, fuck jacks.
Title: Re: Oil change
Post by: giant_mtb on November 14, 2012, 08:36:59 PM
But having jacks for other potential jobs is great.  It might not make the most sense for oil changes, but for most other jobs, it does.
Title: Re: Oil change
Post by: Rupert on November 14, 2012, 08:44:16 PM
Sure. But I hate using them and will avoid it whenever I can.
Title: Re: Oil change
Post by: giant_mtb on November 14, 2012, 08:46:09 PM
Samezies.
Title: Re: Oil change
Post by: Speed_Racer on November 14, 2012, 10:44:10 PM
Quote from: Rupert on November 10, 2012, 10:48:49 PM
Which piece? I hope it's the amygdala, because it's fun to say.

:lol: good catch lol
Title: Re: Oil change
Post by: MrH on November 16, 2012, 10:27:27 AM
Am I the only one who actually prefers jacks?  I had to buy ramps though when I got the BRZ because I can't get the damn jack underneath it :rage:.  Now if I want to under, it's ramp, jack, then jack stands.
Title: Re: Oil change
Post by: Cookie Monster on November 16, 2012, 10:31:43 AM
I always have to borrow my friend's low profile jack to get it under my car.
Title: Re: Oil change
Post by: MrH on November 16, 2012, 10:43:51 AM
I could get mine under the Miata, figured I could with the BRZ too.  Then again, I had the stock monster-truck suspension on the miata.
Title: Re: Oil change
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on November 16, 2012, 10:47:58 AM
Quote from: MrH on November 16, 2012, 10:27:27 AM
Am I the only one who actually prefers jacks?  I had to buy ramps though when I got the BRZ because I can't get the damn jack underneath it :rage:.  Now if I want to under, it's ramp, jack, then jack stands.

Accent scrapes the front bumper before it gets on the ramps. How does BRZ manage?
Title: Re: Oil change
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on November 16, 2012, 10:54:03 AM
Quote from: Rupert on November 10, 2012, 10:47:59 PM
Get one of those crappy blue foam camping mats to lay down on. Keeps you out of the muck and insulates, too (really nice if you're under there for a while).

Why spend money on that crap? A sheet of cardboard is not only free, but slides easily on concrete and absorbs oil. I have had many great cardboard creepers.
Title: Re: Oil change
Post by: Cookie Monster on November 16, 2012, 11:07:30 AM
Quote from: MrH on November 16, 2012, 10:43:51 AM
I could get mine under the Miata, figured I could with the BRZ too.  Then again, I had the stock monster-truck suspension on the miata.

Oh yeah, stock suspension you can get most jacks under there.
Title: Re: Oil change
Post by: Soup DeVille on November 16, 2012, 05:26:45 PM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on November 16, 2012, 10:47:58 AM
Accent scrapes the front bumper before it gets on the ramps. How does BRZ manage?

Shorter front overhang.

The front overhang on the Caddy is something in the neigborhood of six feet- bumper pushes the ramps out of the way before the tires ever get close.
Title: Re: Oil change
Post by: S204STi on November 16, 2012, 05:44:22 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: Oil change
Post by: giant_mtb on November 16, 2012, 05:59:46 PM
I don't like using ramps with my car because I hate slipping the clutch so much to crawl up the ramp. :mask: :lol:
Title: Re: Oil change
Post by: Soup DeVille on November 16, 2012, 06:08:44 PM
Quote from: S204STi on November 16, 2012, 05:44:22 PM
:lol:

You're laughing, but that's exactly what happened when I tried it.
Title: Re: Oil change
Post by: AutobahnSHO on November 16, 2012, 06:52:30 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on November 16, 2012, 05:59:46 PM
I don't like using ramps with my car because I hate slipping the clutch so much to crawl up the ramp. :mask: :lol:

This.

Plus falling off ramps. I don't trust anyone else under my roof to drive a car up onto ramps or guide me onto them...  :(
Title: Re: Oil change
Post by: VTEC_Inside on November 16, 2012, 08:58:08 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on November 16, 2012, 05:59:46 PM
I don't like using ramps with my car because I hate slipping the clutch so much to crawl up the ramp. :mask: :lol:

This is indeed a pain in the ass. The CSX isn't too bad because the ebrake will actually hold the car. When I do it in the RSX it looks like I'm trying to rock out of a rut...
Title: Re: Oil change
Post by: Rupert on November 17, 2012, 12:38:25 AM
You guys are just unskilled. I don't have a problem getting a car up on ramps alone and without drama. :lol:
Title: Re: Oil change
Post by: AutobahnSHO on November 19, 2012, 05:16:07 PM
Quote from: Rupert on November 17, 2012, 12:38:25 AM
You guys are just unskilled. I don't have a problem getting a car up on ramps alone and without drama. :lol:

Know your limits. ;)  I really would hate to drop a car, and I'm kinda klutzy.
Title: Re: Oil change
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on November 19, 2012, 05:22:34 PM
My metal ramps have dents on top from pinch welds. Yep.
Title: Re: Oil change
Post by: Byteme on November 19, 2012, 06:31:10 PM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on November 16, 2012, 05:26:45 PM
Shorter front overhang.

The front overhang on the Caddy is something in the neigborhood of six feet- bumper pushes the ramps out of the way before the tires ever get close.

Lay a couple of 2X6s in front of the ramps for the tires to roll on first and the bumper should clear the ramps.
Title: Re: Oil change
Post by: MrH on November 21, 2012, 01:06:44 PM
I just drive up, jam the front of the ramps into the front of the tires, and shoot right up.  When I feel like my front wheels are in a rut, yank the parking brake.  Tada!  No assistant needed.
Title: Re: Oil change
Post by: Rupert on November 21, 2012, 01:41:51 PM
Yep. Just make sure the ramps are straight, or you'll end up on the edge of the ramp, which is sketchy. It does take a little practice with a stick shift, but you don't actually have to go up the ramp super slow.
Title: Re: Oil change
Post by: Lebowski on November 22, 2012, 03:24:36 PM
Quote from: MrH on November 21, 2012, 01:06:44 PM

I just drive up, jam the front of the ramps into the front of the tires, and shoot right up.  When I feel like my front wheels are in a rut, yank the parking brake.  Tada!  No assistant needed.


+1

I have a set of race ramps, the rhinos were too steep for the c6. I rarely use them now, I can change the C6's oil just pulling up on 2x12s (and last couple times had my mechanic do it, i like having him look over the car once a year anyway now).
Title: Re: Oil change
Post by: giant_mtb on November 22, 2012, 04:46:23 PM
Quote from: Rupert on November 21, 2012, 01:41:51 PM
Yep. Just make sure the ramps are straight, or you'll end up on the edge of the ramp, which is sketchy. It does take a little practice with a stick shift, but you don't actually have to go up the ramp super slow.

Right, you can certainly go quickly up and the dip will catch you, but it still makes me uncomfortable. I jack up the Audi. All other cars (automatics) I'll ramp. Just 'cause.
Title: Re: Oil change
Post by: VTEC_Inside on November 22, 2012, 05:04:18 PM
Quote from: Rupert on November 17, 2012, 12:38:25 AM
You guys are just unskilled. I don't have a problem getting a car up on ramps alone and without drama. :lol:


I launched the passenger side ramp under the rocker of the Accord the first time I ever tried. Those were a buddies metal ramps though.

Its easier with the rhinos because once you get even a little on the leading edge the rubber foot keeps them pretty much still.

Still easier to do with the CSX than the RSX though.

That said I can change the oil on the RSX with the front tires sitting on nothing but some inch thick pieces of slate I have. Only have to reach under for the drain plug, the oil filter I can get from up top.
Title: Re: Oil change
Post by: AutobahnSHO on November 23, 2012, 12:29:01 PM
why aren't all cars as easy as my Subaru??

I wouldn't have to lift it AT ALL if I didn't want- the plug (and oilpan) are towards the front, sticking out the side instead of rear like the dumb Sienna.  The filter gasket is horizontal with the opening on top- so no messing with mess.

And I can take the oil to Ft Campbell and dump it there free. Those big black drain pans with spout ($10?) hold two oil changes- so I dumped the van and Subie in one trip..
Title: Re: Oil change
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on November 23, 2012, 01:02:07 PM
Er jurs derd mer erl chernge.

Ramps FTW.
Title: Re: Oil change
Post by: Rupert on November 23, 2012, 01:03:04 PM
AutoO'Reilly's also take oil for free. They sell it off to get reprocessed into usable oil.
Title: Re: Oil change
Post by: AutobahnSHO on November 23, 2012, 07:12:11 PM
none near me- I'll have to ask Autozone, they're less than a mile from my door.
Title: Re: Oil change
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on November 23, 2012, 07:36:54 PM
Walmarts with express lube take, and you can pick it back up when ur done shoppin.
Title: Re: Oil change
Post by: VTEC_Inside on November 23, 2012, 07:56:43 PM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on November 23, 2012, 07:36:54 PM
Walmarts with express lube take, and you can pick it back up when ur done shoppin.

And you'll get the added bonus of uncertainty of what they may have f'd up.
Title: Re: Oil change
Post by: Rupert on November 23, 2012, 07:58:21 PM
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on November 23, 2012, 07:12:11 PM
none near me- I'll have to ask Autozone, they're less than a mile from my door.

Yeah, AutoZone was the first part of AutoO'Reilly's. :P
Title: Re: Oil change
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on November 23, 2012, 08:01:50 PM
Quote from: VTEC_Inside on November 23, 2012, 07:56:43 PM
And you'll get the added bonus of uncertainty of what they may have f'd up.

NO.
I mean, you drop off your jug of used oil.
DO NOT LET THEM TOUCH YOUR CAR.
I have a hard enough time trusting them with my jug.
Title: Re: Oil change
Post by: AutobahnSHO on November 24, 2012, 06:03:24 AM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on November 23, 2012, 08:01:50 PM
NO.
I mean, you drop off your jug of used oil.
DO NOT LET THEM TOUCH YOUR CAR.
I have a hard enough time trusting them with my jug.

:lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Oil change
Post by: VTEC_Inside on November 24, 2012, 08:28:45 AM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on November 23, 2012, 08:01:50 PM
NO.
I mean, you drop off your jug of used oil.
DO NOT LET THEM TOUCH YOUR CAR.
I have a hard enough time trusting them with my jug.

Lol...

I can just bring the oil to the transfer station about 5-10min from here and drop it off.
Title: Re: Oil change
Post by: hotrodalex on November 24, 2012, 01:40:41 PM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on November 23, 2012, 08:01:50 PM
NO.
I mean, you drop off your jug of used oil.
DO NOT LET THEM TOUCH YOUR CAR.
I have a hard enough time trusting them with my jug.

You could pour the oil into old milk jugs and not have to worry about them taking your oil jug.
Title: Re: Oil change
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on November 24, 2012, 01:43:44 PM
Quote from: hotrodalex on November 24, 2012, 01:40:41 PM
You could pour the oil into old milk jugs and not have to worry about them taking your oil jug.

Nah, I don't trust milk jugs. I just use the new oil jug my last oil
change. As long as I have a couple empties stocked up, I don't care about the jug.
Title: Re: Oil change
Post by: Secret Chimp on November 24, 2012, 01:48:09 PM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on November 24, 2012, 01:43:44 PM
Nah, I don't trust milk jugs. I just use the new oil jug my last oil
change. As long as I have a couple empties stocked up, I don't care about the jug.


I have a 5 gallon bucket with a snap top. Lets me be very lazy about making the trip to dump the used oil.
Title: Re: Oil change
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on November 24, 2012, 02:05:19 PM
Quote from: Secret Chimp on November 24, 2012, 01:48:09 PM
I have a 5 gallon bucket with a snap top. Lets me be very lazy about making the trip to dump the used oil.

Three one-gallon jugs, and I get a new one every time I buy an oil change.
Title: Re: Oil change
Post by: 280Z Turbo on November 24, 2012, 09:28:27 PM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on November 24, 2012, 01:43:44 PM
Nah, I don't trust milk jugs. I just use the new oil jug my last oil
change. As long as I have a couple empties stocked up, I don't care about the jug.


They're made from polyethylene. It's fine.
Title: Re: Oil change
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on November 24, 2012, 09:37:01 PM
Quote from: 280Z Turbo on November 24, 2012, 09:28:27 PM
They're made from polyethylene. It's fine.

The pop top lids are my primary concern.
Title: Re: Oil change
Post by: 280Z Turbo on November 24, 2012, 09:38:51 PM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on November 24, 2012, 09:37:01 PM
The pop top lids are my primary concern.

LOL

You buy the wrong milk.

Meijer milk has screw on caps.
Title: Re: Oil change
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on November 24, 2012, 09:41:44 PM
Quote from: 280Z Turbo on November 24, 2012, 09:38:51 PM
LOL

You buy the wrong milk.

Meijer milk has screw on caps.

Why buy milk when I already have an oil jug designed to carry oil?
Title: Re: Oil change
Post by: 280Z Turbo on November 24, 2012, 09:50:09 PM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on November 24, 2012, 09:41:44 PM
Why buy milk when I already have an oil jug designed to carry oil?

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Title: Re: Oil change
Post by: S204STi on December 03, 2012, 12:39:18 PM
Why use a milk jug when you have empty oil jugs after the oil change?  They have thicker plastic and lids that won't go flying off if they fall over.  Milk jugs are for n00bs.
Title: Re: Oil change
Post by: Rupert on December 03, 2012, 12:51:07 PM
Just drink the oil. Easier disposal and has a wonderful mechanical taste. Good for pasta sauces, too!
Title: Re: Oil change
Post by: 280Z Turbo on December 03, 2012, 06:30:56 PM
Dr. Oz says that 5W-20 is healthier than olive oil. Lots of antioxidants and may prevent heart disease, hypertension, and carbon buildup.
Title: Re: Oil change
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on December 03, 2012, 06:33:34 PM
Quote from: 280Z Turbo on December 03, 2012, 06:30:56 PM
Dr. Oz says that 5W-20 is healthier than olive oil. Lots of antioxidants and may prevent heart disease, hypertension, and carbon buildup.

That guy is off his rocker.
Title: Re: Oil change
Post by: hotrodalex on December 03, 2012, 09:13:00 PM
Quote from: S204STi on December 03, 2012, 12:39:18 PM
Why use a milk jug when you have empty oil jugs after the oil change?  They have thicker plastic and lids that won't go flying off if they fall over.  Milk jugs are for n00bs.

All the milk jugs I buy have a screw on top.

I'll use the oil jugs/bottles if I have empty ones, but I usually get a 5 gallon jug and don't always use all of it.
Title: Re: Oil change
Post by: AutobahnSHO on December 04, 2012, 05:42:04 AM
Autozone usually has 5qt jug and filter deals for < $20.  I end up having like .5-1qt left but I use the extrafor the Miata.
(burns about a qt a month when I drive it everyday. Need to get that fixed someday....)
Title: Re: Oil change
Post by: 93JC on December 22, 2012, 11:51:04 PM
Quote from: hotrodalex on December 03, 2012, 09:13:00 PM
I'll use the oil jugs/bottles if I have empty ones, but I usually get a 5 gallon jug and don't always use all of it.

D:


(:tounge:)
Title: Re: Oil change
Post by: hotrodalex on December 23, 2012, 12:19:36 AM
Quote from: 93JC on December 22, 2012, 11:51:04 PM
D:


(:tounge:)

Oops, I seem to have spelled "liter" incorrectly.
Title: Re: Oil change
Post by: 93JC on December 23, 2012, 02:05:11 AM
You mean litre?


I was just thinking "Man, a 5 gallon jug would be really fucking heavy."
Title: Re: Oil change
Post by: hotrodalex on December 23, 2012, 05:41:59 PM
Quote from: 93JC on December 23, 2012, 02:05:11 AM
You mean litre?

That's the silly way to spell it.
Title: Re: Oil change
Post by: 93JC on December 23, 2012, 07:08:58 PM
That's the way everyone else in the world spells it. :tounge:
Title: Re: Oil change
Post by: GoCougs on December 23, 2012, 07:54:28 PM
We're not like everyone else.
Title: Re: Oil change
Post by: AutobahnSHO on December 23, 2012, 08:33:46 PM
Quote from: 93JC on December 23, 2012, 07:08:58 PM
That's the way everyone else in the world spells it. :tounge:

But that's not how its pronounced