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Title: 4 Series Gran Coupe
Post by: 2o6 on February 01, 2014, 06:00:48 PM
Fuck this segment.

(http://o.aolcdn.com/hss/storage/adam/a1b3118718728491cb68b5dc71172996/001-bmw-4-series-gran-coupe.jpg)

http://www.autoblog.com/2014/02/01/2015-bmw-4-series-gran-coupe-official-photos/ (http://www.autoblog.com/2014/02/01/2015-bmw-4-series-gran-coupe-official-photos/)
Title: Re: 4 Series Gran Coupe
Post by: MX793 on February 01, 2014, 06:05:04 PM
Why is this a thing?  And when can we expect a 4-series GT and X4?
Title: Re: 4 Series Gran Coupe
Post by: 2o6 on February 01, 2014, 06:06:25 PM
What the hell is the point!? It isn't rakish or low at alll.... it looks just like a 3-series GT!

(http://www.themotorreport.com.au/content/image/2/0/2014_bmw_3_series_gt_leaked_02-0207.jpg)
Title: Re: 4 Series Gran Coupe
Post by: Xer0 on February 01, 2014, 06:16:12 PM
The front looks good, but it will probably start at like 70K for a 428XiPureEfficencyDrive Xawd GT. 
Title: Re: 4 Series Gran Coupe
Post by: ifcar on February 01, 2014, 06:41:08 PM
While trying to call it a coupe is silly, I'm all for there being more options -- in this case, BMW buyers get to choose between the more practical 3-Series and more stylish 4-Series sedan, rather than either type of buyer needing to make a compromise (or taking their money elsewhere).
Title: Re: 4 Series Gran Coupe
Post by: 93JC on February 01, 2014, 07:15:24 PM
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There's a 4-series BMW?
Title: Re: 4 Series Gran Coupe
Post by: 2o6 on February 01, 2014, 07:37:51 PM
Quote from: 93JC on February 01, 2014, 07:15:24 PM
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There's a 4-series BMW?


3-series coupe = 4-series.
Title: Re: 4 Series Gran Coupe
Post by: Colin on February 02, 2014, 01:43:26 AM
It is being suggested that it will cost £5000 model for model more than the equivalent 4 Series, which is more costly than a 3 Series.......... that is a very profitable trick if you can pull it off. But it does suggest that it will be significantly more costly than the Audi A5 Sportback.
Title: Re: 4 Series Gran Coupe
Post by: veeman on February 02, 2014, 02:46:05 AM
The other luxury makes probably wish they could pull off profitable variants of their standard cars like BMW apparently can.
Title: Re: 4 Series Gran Coupe
Post by: cawimmer430 on February 02, 2014, 03:38:41 AM
So this is the car I've been seeing in camouflage over the last few months...
Title: Re: 4 Series Gran Coupe
Post by: r0tor on February 02, 2014, 07:46:03 AM
Only good thing about this is they might make a M235i gran coupe
Title: Re: 4 Series Gran Coupe
Post by: Atomic on February 02, 2014, 08:18:08 AM
Cannot figure out if it's intended to look sporty or luxurious or even brutish (SUV-like) -- thinking they took the worst aspects of each and glued the parts together. There's nothing consistent about its design theme, IMO. It looks, chunky, even bulbous -- depending on angle. But... Will it see? After all, it's all about profit, even before image, I'm beginning to think. Image and profit should go hand-in-hand, especially in this field.
Title: Re: 4 Series Gran Coupe
Post by: Raza on February 02, 2014, 10:01:09 AM
Hey, a 3 series!
Title: Re: 4 Series Gran Coupe
Post by: SVT666 on February 02, 2014, 11:00:14 AM
WTF? I thought the 4 series was 2 door only.  If a 4 series has 4 doors, then it's a 3 series.
Title: Re: 4 Series Gran Coupe
Post by: MexicoCityM3 on February 02, 2014, 02:42:36 PM
It'll cost less than the coupe or about the same. Pricing won't be that crazy on this one. And it's a hatch.
Title: Re: 4 Series Gran Coupe
Post by: CJ on February 02, 2014, 06:05:08 PM
It looks really good.
Title: Re: 4 Series Gran Coupe
Post by: MX793 on February 02, 2014, 08:16:28 PM
Quote from: MexicoCityM3 on February 02, 2014, 02:42:36 PM
It'll cost less than the coupe or about the same. Pricing won't be that crazy on this one. And it's a hatch.

The 6 Gran Coupe is several thousand more than the regular 6.  I'd expect the same of the 4 Gran Coupe relative to the standard 4 (which is in turn several thousand more than a comparable 3er).
Title: Re: 4 Series Gran Coupe
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on February 02, 2014, 08:34:45 PM
Seems pointless, and I don't like the whole 4 series thing.

K.I.S.S.

1 series - 2/4 door hatch, 2 door coupe, 4 door sedan
3 series - same
5 series - coupe, sedan
6 series - 5 series coupe - I guess
7 series - sedan, short and long wheelbase
8 series - bring it back, dump the 6 series if you have to

Don't know why the above scenario wasn't enough for bmw. The 4 series is pointless, the gt stuff is trash.
Title: Re: 4 Series Gran Coupe
Post by: MexicoCityM3 on February 02, 2014, 09:28:54 PM
Quote from: MX793 on February 02, 2014, 08:16:28 PM
The 6 Gran Coupe is several thousand more than the regular 6.  I'd expect the same of the 4 Gran Coupe relative to the standard 4 (which is in turn several thousand more than a comparable 3er).

Nope. It's official.
Title: Re: 4 Series Gran Coupe
Post by: MexicoCityM3 on February 02, 2014, 09:30:25 PM
BMW says the 4-series Gran Coupe follows the concept of the 6-series Gran Coupe, which is essentially a reskinned 5-series sold at a nearly $25,000 premium. We are certainly glad that the Bavarians didn't elect to charge a similar amount for the 4-series Gran Coupe. At $41,225 for the 428i and $46,725 for the 435i, they're $3000 and $2400 dearer than their 3-series counterparts.
Title: Re: 4 Series Gran Coupe
Post by: Laconian on February 02, 2014, 11:11:46 PM
I've heard that this is for emerging market buyers who are very conscious of status and the fact that larger numbers are socially superior to lesser numerals.
Title: Re: 4 Series Gran Coupe
Post by: 2o6 on February 02, 2014, 11:16:57 PM
Quote from: Laconian on February 02, 2014, 11:11:46 PM
I've heard that this is for emerging market buyers who are very conscious of status and the fact that larger numbers are socially superior to lesser numerals.

China
Title: Re: 4 Series Gran Coupe
Post by: ifcar on February 02, 2014, 11:27:06 PM
Quote from: Laconian on February 02, 2014, 11:11:46 PM
I've heard that this is for emerging market buyers who are very conscious of status and the fact that larger numbers are socially superior to lesser numerals.

I think they should sell it then as the 11-Series.
Title: Re: 4 Series Gran Coupe
Post by: Laconian on February 02, 2014, 11:33:43 PM
8 series, 8 is lucky.
Title: Re: 4 Series Gran Coupe
Post by: CALL_911 on February 02, 2014, 11:47:48 PM
It is silly, but damn if it doesn't look good
Title: Re: 4 Series Gran Coupe
Post by: Colin on February 03, 2014, 01:05:14 AM
Quote from: 2o6 on February 02, 2014, 11:16:57 PM
China
Isn't the number 4 deemed unlucky in China?
Title: Re: 4 Series Gran Coupe
Post by: Laconian on February 03, 2014, 02:07:11 AM
Quote from: Colin on February 03, 2014, 01:05:14 AM
Isn't the number 4 deemed unlucky in China?

Ha, yeah, you're right. "Si" resembles "death".
Title: Re: 4 Series Gran Coupe
Post by: Char on February 03, 2014, 12:38:31 PM
Like all new BMW's (and new cars in general) this looks terrible, and I'm sure it will drive like it. Glad the 235M is coming.
Title: Re: 4 Series Gran Coupe
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on February 04, 2014, 06:11:38 PM
Quote from: 2o6 on February 02, 2014, 11:16:57 PM
China

Actually they are probably thinking of America.

Bigger number = fancier car.

Jokes on them though, most american's can't count passed the letter D.
Title: Re: 4 Series Gran Coupe
Post by: Catman on February 05, 2014, 06:10:29 AM
I like it better than the 3.  Its more interesting.