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Title: controversial cadillac ad
Post by: veeman on March 08, 2014, 10:07:48 PM
The First Ever 2014 Cadillac ELR: Poolside (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGJSI48gkFc#ws)

the liberals don't like it because it's arrogant and xenophobic.  fox newscasters, on the other hand, love it.

it's very over the top for a national car commercial.  pretty dam daring actually.  i like it and i find it more funny than anything else because the guy is such a caricature of a CEO type prick. 

Title: Re: controversial cadillac ad
Post by: GoCougs on March 08, 2014, 10:34:15 PM
Caricature???

Ha, ha! That is awesome and true. No one's buying the ELR though, as stunning as it is.
Title: Re: controversial cadillac ad
Post by: Soup DeVille on March 08, 2014, 10:47:20 PM
Its polarizing, and its got people talking: which after all, is a major purpose of adverising, no?

Title: Re: controversial cadillac ad
Post by: ifcar on March 09, 2014, 03:16:46 AM
I didn't find the ad offensive but it didn't really seem to have a point, and did absolutely nothing to describe what was special about the ELR. My mother wrote to me unsolicited to say that she'd found it offensive, though -- "are they trying to say 'only buy a Cadillac if you're an arrogant prick?'" And she mistook the electric car charger for an in-home gas station.
Title: Re: controversial cadillac ad
Post by: CALL_911 on March 09, 2014, 03:39:51 AM
I didn't find it offensive either, but it really wasn't a good ad for a car as unique as the ELR. Same shit could have been said for the CTS or the XTS.
Title: Re: controversial cadillac ad
Post by: Rupert on March 09, 2014, 03:54:28 AM
Pretty dumb ad, but aren't almost all of them? Offended I ain't; not that I'd want to hang out with that dude.
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Post by: Rich on March 09, 2014, 03:56:50 AM
That's a RedBloodedAmerican ad right there
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Post by: FoMoJo on March 09, 2014, 07:24:54 AM
I can't help laughing when I watch it. :lol:  Ali?? :confused:
Title: Re: controversial cadillac ad
Post by: veeman on March 09, 2014, 08:09:43 AM
They had to throw in a black guy :)  they were probably debating whether to throw in a Hispanic.
Title: Re: controversial cadillac ad
Post by: SVT32V on March 09, 2014, 09:25:05 AM
Quote from: veeman on March 08, 2014, 10:07:48 PM

the liberals don't like it because it's arrogant and xenophobic. 


The liberals shouldn't be so nativist.

I have yet to meet a german that didn't view their upscale automakers as extremely exceptional. In fact most Europeans and definitely most asians view their culture as superior and they have no qualms about saying it. The Chinese will take their rightful place as a world power. The Japanese well, they view everyone else as insignificant and inferior, much the same in Korea. The french pass laws to try and limit US influence on their culture.


Title: Re: controversial cadillac ad
Post by: Mustangfan2003 on March 09, 2014, 10:38:32 AM
A lot of Murica in that ad.  Oh well keep drinking your fruity drinks Eurosnobs. 
Title: Re: controversial cadillac ad
Post by: Soup DeVille on March 09, 2014, 12:51:01 PM
Quote from: SVT32V on March 09, 2014, 09:25:05 AM
The liberals shouldn't be so nativist.

I have yet to meet a german that didn't view their upscale automakers as extremely exceptional. In fact most Europeans and definitely most asians view their culture as superior and they have no qualms about saying it. The Chinese will take their rightful place as a world power. The Japanese well, they view everyone else as insignificant and inferior, much the same in Korea. The french pass laws to try and limit US influence on their culture.




Were better at self loathing than everybody but the Irish.
Title: Re: controversial cadillac ad
Post by: Madman on March 09, 2014, 05:32:59 PM
So, Cadillac is trying to go after the self-absorbed douchebag market currently being served by Lexus?  :huh:
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Post by: MrH on March 09, 2014, 05:37:55 PM
Well, they certainly aren't going after the self loathing, American guilt, euro snob crowd :lol:
Title: Re: controversial cadillac ad
Post by: cawimmer430 on March 10, 2014, 03:59:36 AM
And I thought this was about a Cimarron, hence the "controversial" in the topic title...  :lol:
Title: Re: controversial cadillac ad
Post by: Xer0 on March 10, 2014, 11:00:07 PM
Ha, funny commercial.  But considering that the ELR isn't exactly the most amazing car available and its closest competitor (Tesla) is also American, I don't really see the point of harping on American exceptional-ism. 
Title: Re: controversial cadillac ad
Post by: Laconian on March 10, 2014, 11:12:28 PM
Quote from: Xer0 on March 10, 2014, 11:00:07 PM
Ha, funny commercial.  But considering that the ELR isn't exactly the most amazing car available and its closest competitor (Tesla) is also American, I don't really see the point of harping on American exceptional-ism. 
:hesaid:
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Post by: Speed_Racer on March 11, 2014, 12:20:04 AM
I read an advertising trade magazine article earlier this week and the CMO Uwe Ellinghaus did a last minute switcharoo, swapped out an unnamed Cadillac and put in the ELR. He wouldn't say what other model he pulled (should have shown the Elmiraj), or why. Just thought it was an interesting tidbit.
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Post by: GoCougs on March 11, 2014, 01:22:50 AM
Should've been the new 'Lade - 6,000 lbs and 420 hp, baby!
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Post by: AutobahnSHO on March 11, 2014, 07:48:45 AM
Quote from: Madman on March 09, 2014, 05:32:59 PM
So, Cadillac is trying to go after the self-absorbed douchebag market currently being served by Lexus?  :huh:

Yes.!

Cadillac knows their clientele. that's the target, not ad critics or the average joe schmoe.  They need to point out to the German car buying snobs and the Japanese luxury buying snobs that Cadillac stands out for SOME reason or another....   

(Doesn't romney own two of them?  :lol: )
Title: Re: controversial cadillac ad
Post by: FoMoJo on March 11, 2014, 08:29:06 AM
Quote from: Madman on March 09, 2014, 05:32:59 PM
So, Cadillac is trying to go after the self-absorbed douchebag market currently being served by Lexus?  :huh:
Rather than the good ol' boy with a bit of spare cash in his pocket...mostly from GM buyout packages with a car bonus attached.
Title: Re: controversial cadillac ad
Post by: Raza on March 11, 2014, 10:12:46 AM
Well, on one hand, it's easy to rip into the French.  People have been doing it for decades.  On the other, it's a damn good ad.  It's got good energy, it makes bold statements, and if the viewer is an American, it puts them in a positive place. 

Although I noticed that they show him unplugging the car and then he's magically in it.  No shot of him trying to put the plug and cord away. :lol:
Title: Re: controversial cadillac ad
Post by: veeman on March 11, 2014, 11:20:45 AM
that's for the hard working zero vacation taking housekeeper to do :)
Title: Re: controversial cadillac ad
Post by: pendyman on March 21, 2014, 04:16:58 PM
Just saw my first ELR on the street this afternoon in the gallery district of Chelsea (NYC). I tried to grab my iPhone but wasn't quick enough as it passed.

It was silver, and I have to say was a pretty beautiful car.
Title: Re: controversial cadillac ad
Post by: Byteme on March 21, 2014, 05:21:29 PM
Quote from: ifcar on March 09, 2014, 03:16:46 AM
I And she mistook the electric car charger for an in-home gas station.

Kind of is, in a way, more of less, somewhat. :lol:

Quote from: ifcar on March 09, 2014, 03:16:46 AM
I didn't find the ad offensive but it didn't really seem to have a point, and did absolutely nothing to describe what was special about the ELR. My mother wrote to me unsolicited to say that she'd found it offensive, though -- "are they trying to say 'only buy a Cadillac if you're an arrogant prick?'"

That's the kind of guy you like to see with a flat tire on a two lane road on a cold and rainy night.  It's a bonus if there is water pooled in the road that allows you to further soak him as you drive through it.
Title: Re: controversial cadillac ad
Post by: 2o6 on March 22, 2014, 08:09:21 AM
I don't like the ELR anywhere near as much as I did in pictures or when it was the Converj concept. It's too stumpy....a lot of the Converj's attractive ness was it's striking proportions. needs more wheelbase
Title: Re: controversial cadillac ad
Post by: Mustangfan2003 on March 23, 2014, 10:06:35 PM
Why is the car 2 door, doesn't GM know that coupes have a smaller market share? 
Title: Re: controversial cadillac ad
Post by: Laconian on March 23, 2014, 10:26:47 PM
I'll hold judgment on the ELR until I see one for myself. It is a much better flagship for Caddy luxury than the XLR. Every XLR superlative was qualified with "...for a Corvette".
Title: Re: controversial cadillac ad
Post by: MrH on March 25, 2014, 03:34:44 PM
Well, this was my first big time interior project to really hit the market.  I guess I can talk about it now that it's in production.  I worked on this non-stop for 4 months in Detroit 5-days a week or so.   Quoted and hashed out the design for the whole instrument panel, center console, and door panels.

Shame they're going to sell only a couple hundred a year and has such goofy proportions.  It'll always be kind of special to me.
Title: Re: controversial cadillac ad
Post by: Raza on March 25, 2014, 03:49:07 PM
Quote from: pendyman on March 21, 2014, 04:16:58 PM
Just saw my first ELR on the street this afternoon in the gallery district of Chelsea (NYC). I tried to grab my iPhone but wasn't quick enough as it passed.

It was silver, and I have to say was a pretty beautiful car.

Too bad you didn't have one of the Android phones.  Then you could have said "Ok Google Now Play jump out of pocket and take a photo" and it would have done that. 
Title: Re: controversial cadillac ad
Post by: Laconian on March 25, 2014, 03:52:50 PM
"OK Glass, take a picture."
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Post by: Raza on March 26, 2014, 12:17:50 PM
Quote from: Laconian on March 25, 2014, 03:52:50 PM
"OK Glass, take a picture."

Boom. 
Title: Re: controversial cadillac ad
Post by: 2o6 on March 26, 2014, 01:43:57 PM
I don't think this car is anywhere near as pretty in person as I once thought from the concept.
Title: Re: controversial cadillac ad
Post by: MrH on March 26, 2014, 03:53:36 PM
Quote from: 2o6 on March 26, 2014, 01:43:57 PM
I don't think this car is anywhere near as pretty in person as I once thought from the concept.

...but the interior is still great, right?  Right guys? :cry:
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Post by: SVT32V on March 26, 2014, 04:15:25 PM
Congrats on the work MrH, it must be nice to see it launched.



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Post by: Laconian on March 26, 2014, 04:42:55 PM
Quote from: SVT32V on March 26, 2014, 04:15:25 PM
Congrats on the work MrH, it must be nice to see it launched.

+1000! The praise for the interior is unanimous. Good jerb.
Title: Re: controversial cadillac ad
Post by: 2o6 on March 26, 2014, 05:38:53 PM
Quote from: MrH on March 26, 2014, 03:53:36 PM
...but the interior is still great, right?  Right guys? :cry:

I don't like Cadillac's interior design direction, but it does look high quality
Title: Re: controversial cadillac ad
Post by: ifcar on March 26, 2014, 06:24:47 PM
Quote from: MrH on March 25, 2014, 03:34:44 PM
Well, this was my first big time interior project to really hit the market.  I guess I can talk about it now that it's in production.  I worked on this non-stop for 4 months in Detroit 5-days a week or so.   Quoted and hashed out the design for the whole instrument panel, center console, and door panels.

Shame they're going to sell only a couple hundred a year and has such goofy proportions.  It'll always be kind of special to me.

Pretty cool! Maybe in 20-30 years it would be fun to grab one for nostalgia purposes.
Title: Re: controversial cadillac ad
Post by: Laconian on March 26, 2014, 07:10:03 PM
What were the most difficult parts to get right?
Title: Re: controversial cadillac ad
Post by: SJ_GTI on March 27, 2014, 07:13:17 AM
I really dig this car. If it was more reasonably priced (50-60k) I would probably consider buying it.

To me it seems like a really nice looking Chevy Volt, so I understand SOME price premium...but they went too far (80k+) IMHO. At that price point I would just go with a Tesla.  :huh:

The ELR is still basically a FWD economy car, even if it does look really nice and have a nice interior.
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Post by: CJ on March 27, 2014, 07:15:01 AM
I still can't believe that it's over $80,000.  Unbelievable.  It really should be $50-55k. 
Title: Re: controversial cadillac ad
Post by: Soup DeVille on March 27, 2014, 07:17:21 AM
Quote from: CJ on March 27, 2014, 07:15:01 AM
I still can't believe that it's over $80,000.  Unbelievable.  It really should be $50-55k. 

To a certain extent, I suspect it might be intentionally overpriced.