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Title: Is this site/business legit?
Post by: Payman on July 01, 2015, 10:30:49 AM
Seems like a good project source, but I'm getting a sketchy vibe...

http://autosource.biz/Ad/1965_Corvette.htm (http://autosource.biz/Ad/1965_Corvette.htm)
Title: Re: Is this site/business legit?
Post by: Payman on July 01, 2015, 10:33:09 AM
New body and parts from FFR would be less than $5000 to rebuild this... they're asking just $5100 for it. Seems to good to be true.

(http://autosource.biz/pics/1965-'65-427-Shelby-Cobra-Red-White-Kit.jpg)
Title: Re: Is this site/business legit?
Post by: giant_mtb on July 01, 2015, 11:28:11 AM
Looks like they have a lot of vehicles. 
Title: Re: Is this site/business legit?
Post by: Payman on July 01, 2015, 11:36:33 AM
Quote from: giant_mtb on July 01, 2015, 11:28:11 AM
Looks like they have a lot of vehicles. 

Yep. More than 20-30 C2 Corvettes that burned, flooded, or theft recovery? Why aren't these all at auction?
Title: Re: Is this site/business legit?
Post by: Payman on July 01, 2015, 11:57:29 AM
"1998 McLaren F1, bank repo, make offer".   :wtf:

(http://autosource.biz/pics/McLaren_F1_Black_1998_For_Sale.jpg)

Damn... I hoped it was a legitimate site.  :(
Title: Re: Is this site/business legit?
Post by: Byteme on July 01, 2015, 12:37:01 PM
One potential problem immediately comes to mind.  SALVAGE TITLE.  It looks like these are cars the insurance companies decided to total instead of repairing.  It's probably good to check with your insurance company to see if they will insure it.  My understanding is some won't.  A salvage title also limits your ability to get your money out of the car should you want to resell it.

Personally in many instances I'd have no issues with driving a car with a salvage title, depending of what events actually totaled the car in the first place.  For example an E-type that was totaled because of flood damage can probably be put back on the road in a number 2 condition (near concours) with nio safey issues for around $40,000 + personal labor valued at $0.00 per hour.


I've seen their ads while looking for an E-type.  I never pursued it beyond looking on the internet.
Title: Re: Is this site/business legit?
Post by: Payman on July 01, 2015, 03:11:39 PM
Salvage title isn't an issue. In fact, it makes it more appealing to me because I can import the car as "parts". A good friend of mine built a Jeep from the ground up with parts from 3 other Jeeps, none with titles, and having a new title created for it was easy. You just need to have the finished vehicle inspected, appraised and insured, and the DOT will issue you new paperwork.
Title: Re: Is this site/business legit?
Post by: 2o6 on July 01, 2015, 03:12:12 PM
Quote from: Rockraven on July 01, 2015, 11:57:29 AM
"1998 McLaren F1, bank repo, make offer".   :wtf:

(http://autosource.biz/pics/McLaren_F1_Black_1998_For_Sale.jpg)

Damn... I hoped it was a legitimate site.  :(



Maybe it is and you're missing the deal of a lifetime


Or it's a rebodied Tiburon
Title: Re: Is this site/business legit?
Post by: Byteme on July 01, 2015, 03:39:37 PM
Quote from: Rockraven on July 01, 2015, 03:11:39 PM
Salvage title isn't an issue. In fact, it makes it more appealing to me because I can import the car as "parts". A good friend of mine built a Jeep from the ground up with parts from 3 other Jeeps, none with titles, and having a new title created for it was easy. You just need to have the finished vehicle inspected, appraised and insured, and the DOT will issue you new paperwork.

One might be better off starting with no title instead of a salvage title.  I'd suspect one could go from no title, just a bill of sale, to a clean, normal title.

In this state you have to prove ownership of the vehicle and all parts that went into rebuilding it.  It gets inspected and you wind up with a title marked "Rebuilt"    ,
Title: Re: Is this site/business legit?
Post by: MX793 on July 02, 2015, 04:39:14 AM
Two of my cousins bought salvage cars at auction (flood cars with very minor damage), fixed them up and got new, clean titles issued.  There are a few hoops to jump through but it's doable.
Title: Re: Is this site/business legit?
Post by: Byteme on July 02, 2015, 06:21:41 AM
Quote from: MX793 on July 02, 2015, 04:39:14 AM
Two of my cousins bought salvage cars at auction (flood cars with very minor damage), fixed them up and got new, clean titles issued.  There are a few hoops to jump through but it's doable.

As per my example, what kind of title you wind up with depends on the state.  I'm not arguing with you, just pointing out potential pitfalls
Title: Re: Is this site/business legit?
Post by: Soup DeVille on July 02, 2015, 06:25:17 AM
In Michigan, a project like the Jeep mentioned would likely get an "assembled" title. Cars over 20 years old may get a new, clean title if no title to it can be located in records and if ownership can be documented.
Title: Re: Is this site/business legit?
Post by: Submariner on July 02, 2015, 04:13:01 PM
I wonder how much it would cost to build a knock-off F1 as close to the original as possible?  From the exact dimensions to the interior to a (relatively) similar engine to handling characteristics, speed, etc.
Title: Re: Is this site/business legit?
Post by: 12,000 RPM on July 03, 2015, 06:51:57 AM
Quote from: Submariner on July 02, 2015, 04:13:01 PM
I wonder how much it would cost to build a knock-off F1 as close to the original as possible?  From the exact dimensions to the interior to a (relatively) similar engine to handling characteristics, speed, etc.
The gold foil alone would make this infeasible. The F1 was and remains something truly special.
Title: Re: Is this site/business legit?
Post by: Payman on July 03, 2015, 08:24:29 AM
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on July 03, 2015, 06:51:57 AM
The gold foil alone would make this infeasible. The F1 was and remains something truly special.

Use aluminum foil.
Title: Re: Is this site/business legit?
Post by: Submariner on July 04, 2015, 04:55:51 PM
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on July 03, 2015, 06:51:57 AM
The gold foil alone would make this infeasible. The F1 was and remains something truly special.

I'm not suggesting building an exact replica (i.e. down to the last minute detail) but rather one that closely replicates the looks and performance of the original.

In other words, you're not going to find the exact 6.1 V12 as is found in the original, but maybe you could stroke a modern BMW V12 and mod it to produce similar power figures.  Or maybe you could skip the V12 all together and opt for a lighter F/I V8.  Things like that.  More than a kit car, but certainly not an exact replica of the original.