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Title: OK, so the NSX is actually here. How is it?
Post by: 12,000 RPM on October 27, 2015, 11:38:13 AM
Apparently, not good.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/first-drives/reviews/a27144/2017-acura-nsx-first-drive/ (http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/first-drives/reviews/a27144/2017-acura-nsx-first-drive/)

QuoteStumbling out of San Francisco and into the varicose pavement along the coast, I expect the NSX to come alive, to shine like the new penny wonder its ancestor was.

It doesn't happen.

Too late now, but IMO it would have been a better idea to have kept it under ~3000lbs, scrap the turbos and front hybrid motors and made it a ~400HP feedback machine. Honda claims it wasn't chasing performance figures or w/e but it sure dues seem like they gave up a lot to meet them. O well
Title: Re: OK, so the NSX is actually here. How is it?
Post by: Submariner on October 27, 2015, 11:39:48 AM
lol - poor Honda/Acura
Title: Re: OK, so the NSX is actually here. How is it?
Post by: mzziaz on October 27, 2015, 11:45:38 AM
context?
Title: Re: OK, so the NSX is actually here. How is it?
Post by: 2o6 on October 27, 2015, 11:46:31 AM
I read two glowing reviews, so I'm going to need you to post more than that little snippit that only supports your view of this car.



Secondly, having gotten a little seat time with the old NSX, the beauty of that car is how livable it is. It drives a lot like a big low EK Civic.
Title: Re: OK, so the NSX is actually here. How is it?
Post by: giant_mtb on October 27, 2015, 11:46:56 AM
Quote from: mzziaz on October 27, 2015, 11:45:38 AM
context?

Sporty says not good with vague quote.  It is the Final Word. :lol:
Title: Re: OK, so the NSX is actually here. How is it?
Post by: Payman on October 27, 2015, 11:48:10 AM
Road and Track is disappoint:

http://kinja.roadandtrack.com/first-drive-was-the-2017-acura-nsx-worth-the-wait-1738939200 (http://kinja.roadandtrack.com/first-drive-was-the-2017-acura-nsx-worth-the-wait-1738939200)

$170,000 overwrought and overweight turd. Looks like they did a CRZ on a bigger scale. There's much to be said for "keep it simple, stupid".
Title: Re: OK, so the NSX is actually here. How is it?
Post by: Cookie Monster on October 27, 2015, 11:49:36 AM
If you read till the end, you'd see they said with the appropriate Michelin PSS's in Track mode it's actually decent. With the shitty all season Continentals and in Sport/Sport+ mode it sucks.

Still though, I agree. 3,800 lb is a crap ton and IMO they've diluted the NSX name by releasing this thing which is in no way similar at all to the original.
Title: Re: OK, so the NSX is actually here. How is it?
Post by: 12,000 RPM on October 27, 2015, 11:54:16 AM
Sorry, yea, link added in first post.

Over 3800lbs for a 2 seat midengine car. Honda just said "fuck it... we promised and got this far, just extrude this turd".

On the upside, there are rumors of a car below this that will pretty much be as I described, for like half the price or less. Still MR, but with a 1.5 turbo 4 hybrid instead. Will be <3100lbs (so 3,092). I still think they should just throw cams in the old Accord V6 IMA and go from there but who am I.

Manufacturers are going too far. Cars like the Cayman are in the sweet spot IMO. Who would buy that NSX over something like a GT4 or GT3 for less $$$? I don't get it.
Title: Re: OK, so the NSX is actually here. How is it?
Post by: MX793 on October 27, 2015, 12:04:45 PM
C&D said that it was technically pretty good, particularly with the better tires, but ultimately not as engaging, dramatic, or special feeling as its predecessor.  Car had no soul.
Title: Re: OK, so the NSX is actually here. How is it?
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on October 27, 2015, 12:31:08 PM
3800lbs?!@!?!?!?!!

Sweet f'in christ that is ridiculous.

Thank god mazda might drop a new rx car, atleast someone(mazda) still knows that some of us like lighter cars.
Title: Re: OK, so the NSX is actually here. How is it?
Post by: GoCougs on October 27, 2015, 12:34:52 PM
So, basically a Kmart hyper exotic (918, LaFerrari, P1). With the all the pseudo science and gaming of regulation flying about one can't really blame 'em but they all suck still the same. Junk.

Acura had an opportunity to rebrand itself and totally blew it. A real shame.
Title: Re: OK, so the NSX is actually here. How is it?
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on October 27, 2015, 01:31:03 PM
Quote from: Rockraven on October 27, 2015, 11:48:10 AM
Road and Track is disappoint:

http://kinja.roadandtrack.com/first-drive-was-the-2017-acura-nsx-worth-the-wait-1738939200 (http://kinja.roadandtrack.com/first-drive-was-the-2017-acura-nsx-worth-the-wait-1738939200)

$170,000 overwrought and overweight turd. Looks like they did a CRZ on a bigger scale. There's much to be said for "keep it simple, stupid".

Sounds like a tire problem
Title: Re: OK, so the NSX is actually here. How is it?
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on October 27, 2015, 01:51:59 PM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on October 27, 2015, 01:31:03 PM
Sounds like a tire problem

Yes, they are supporting too much weight.
Title: Re: OK, so the NSX is actually here. How is it?
Post by: Gotta-Qik-C7 on October 27, 2015, 02:32:33 PM
Has Honda gotten ANYTHING right since the S2000?
Title: Re: OK, so the NSX is actually here. How is it?
Post by: Laconian on October 27, 2015, 02:41:42 PM
It sounds like a tire upgrade makes it a much, much better drive? If that's true, then yeah - Honda's dumb for speccing the OEM tires, but if just a couple grand worth of tires makes the car awesome, why this gloomy writeup? :huh:

Never underestimate the importance in choosing proper footwear. The hero Michelins transform the NSX from a vague, confidence sapping experience into a car that encourages you to push a little harder, to gun for the next apex and dive deep. There's turn in where there was no turn in before. Grip. Glorious, glorious grip. The right rubber lets you use this miracle machine Honda stitched together, and you can feel a quiet thread of commonality singing back to that special car, the first NSX.

In Track Mode and shod with the sticky Michelins, the NSX wakes up. The hellish understeer nearly vanishes. It's not a neutral car by any means, but it's easier to point in the direction you want. The rest is managed with big lifts of the throttle or brakes. The tail rotates and sets beautifully. It's so good, you wonder why the engineers buried it under a nasty pile of algorithms and unfortunate tire.
Title: Re: OK, so the NSX is actually here. How is it?
Post by: CALL_911 on October 27, 2015, 02:49:14 PM
I haven't read anything about it, but in the messiah I trust:

https://goo.gl/DOIjWh
Title: Re: OK, so the NSX is actually here. How is it?
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on October 27, 2015, 04:01:01 PM
Quote from: Gotta-Qik-G8 on October 27, 2015, 02:32:33 PM
Has Honda gotten ANYTHING right since the S2000?

CR-V
Title: Re: OK, so the NSX is actually here. How is it?
Post by: Laconian on October 27, 2015, 04:01:23 PM
Quote from: CALL_911 on October 27, 2015, 02:49:14 PM
I haven't read anything about it, but in the messiah I trust:

https://goo.gl/DOIjWh

+1 to what he said, negative press gets the clicks. People love to hate.
Title: Re: OK, so the NSX is actually here. How is it?
Post by: ifcar on October 27, 2015, 04:14:41 PM
Quote from: Laconian on October 27, 2015, 04:01:23 PM
+1 to what he said, negative press gets the clicks. People love to hate.

I feel like there wouldn't be a consensus forming around a hot new car if there weren't some truth behind it. Usually it takes a comparison test for a supercar to get hit with criticism.

But maybe it's the years of delays that used up the positive "hey, look at this cool thing!" articles.
Title: Re: OK, so the NSX is actually here. How is it?
Post by: Gotta-Qik-C7 on October 27, 2015, 04:39:37 PM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on October 27, 2015, 04:01:01 PM
CR-V
How could I forget that masterpiece!  :rolleyes:  :lol:
Title: Re: OK, so the NSX is actually here. How is it?
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on October 27, 2015, 05:11:21 PM
Quote from: Gotta-Qik-G8 on October 27, 2015, 04:39:37 PM
How could I forget that masterpiece!  :rolleyes:  :lol:

(http://freshlywhipped.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/IMG_8261.jpg)

:rastaman:
Title: Re: OK, so the NSX is actually here. How is it?
Post by: Gotta-Qik-C7 on February 01, 2016, 04:04:10 PM
http://blog.caranddriver.com/first-2017-acura-nsx-goes-for-1-million-over-sticker/ (http://blog.caranddriver.com/first-2017-acura-nsx-goes-for-1-million-over-sticker/)
Title: Re: OK, so the NSX is actually here. How is it?
Post by: CaminoRacer on February 01, 2016, 04:04:54 PM
That dude bought half the cars that were auctioned off. Must have been one of the lottery winners...
Title: Re: OK, so the NSX is actually here. How is it?
Post by: SVT666 on February 01, 2016, 04:14:09 PM
The buyer was Rick Hendrick of Hendrick Motorsports and the Hendrick Automotive Group.
Title: Re: OK, so the NSX is actually here. How is it?
Post by: Payman on February 01, 2016, 04:29:46 PM
$50,000 in options??? I can't even afford the options on this thing.
Title: Re: OK, so the NSX is actually here. How is it?
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on February 01, 2016, 08:59:09 PM
Quote from: Laconian on October 27, 2015, 04:01:23 PM
+1 to what he said, negative press gets the clicks. People love to hate.

Pretty tough to spin 3800lbs into a positive.

You cant change physics.
Title: Re: OK, so the NSX is actually here. How is it?
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on February 01, 2016, 08:59:35 PM
Quote from: SVT666 on February 01, 2016, 04:14:09 PM
The buyer was Rick Hendrick of Hendrick Motorsports and the Hendrick Automotive Group.

Should have left that scarf at home.
Title: Re: OK, so the NSX is actually here. How is it?
Post by: 12,000 RPM on February 02, 2016, 06:33:44 AM
Chris Harris had a review where it sounded like he was trying to convince himself that it was good

IDK man.

They lost the plot.
Title: Re: OK, so the NSX is actually here. How is it?
Post by: 2o6 on February 02, 2016, 06:35:38 AM
I think you guys are insane and sound hyperbolic as fuck, as usual.



Title: Re: OK, so the NSX is actually here. How is it?
Post by: SVT666 on February 07, 2016, 09:03:11 AM
Quote from: 2o6 on February 02, 2016, 06:35:38 AM
I think you guys are insane and sound hyperbolic as fuck, as usual.
Everything I have seen says the car isn't very fun.
Title: Re: OK, so the NSX is actually here. How is it?
Post by: 12,000 RPM on February 07, 2016, 09:13:37 AM
Quote from: 2o6 on February 02, 2016, 06:35:38 AM
I think you guys are insane and sound hyperbolic as fuck, as usual.
WYSIWYG here bro u know what time it is.

I just cant see what I would buy the NSX over in its price range and segment.
Title: Re: OK, so the NSX is actually here. How is it?
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on February 07, 2016, 09:13:42 AM
Quote from: SVT666 on February 07, 2016, 09:03:11 AM
Everything I have seen says the car isn't very fun.

I think it's fun. I hear when you set the cruise control the car automatically displays a new chess game in place of the instrument cluster. The only boring part is the car is always white and always makes the same first move.
Title: Re: OK, so the NSX is actually here. How is it?
Post by: Gotta-Qik-C7 on March 09, 2016, 09:54:43 PM
http://blog.caranddriver.com/the-acura-nsx-has-a-cheat-mode-that-turns-off-all-wheel-drive/ (http://blog.caranddriver.com/the-acura-nsx-has-a-cheat-mode-that-turns-off-all-wheel-drive/)
Title: Re: OK, so the NSX is actually here. How is it?
Post by: 12,000 RPM on March 10, 2016, 07:01:46 AM
Do they have a mode that turns off ~500-600 lbs?
Title: Re: OK, so the NSX is actually here. How is it?
Post by: FlatBlackCaddy on March 10, 2016, 07:40:44 AM
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on March 10, 2016, 07:01:46 AM
Do they have a mode that turns off ~500-600 lbs?

A Mazda badge?