Well, this is good news.
Ford Mustang Is Best-Selling Sports Coupe Globally; Customer Demand for Iconic Pony Car Continues to Rise
• Ford Mustang was the top-selling sports coupe worldwide in 2015, according to IHS Automotive registration data
• Ford sold around 110,000 Mustang Coupes and around 30,000 Mustang Convertibles in 2015; Mustang was the only sports coupe globally to sell more than 100,000 units last year
• Once a North American phenomenon, Mustang is now on sale in 140 markets, including Australia, where it was sold out through 2017 before receiving an extra allotment of cars
Mich.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--
In its first year of global availability, Ford Mustang became the world's best-selling sports coupe. Demand for the iconic pony car remains insatiable.
According to company analysis of the most recent registration data from IHS Automotive, Ford sold around 110,000 Mustang Coupes globally in 2015 – topping all other sports coupe competitors.
That record was achieved despite limited availability for most of the year in such key markets like China and the United Kingdom. Additionally, Ford sold around 30,000 Mustang Convertibles, for total nameplate sales of 141,868 vehicles – making Mustang far and away the best-selling two-door sports car in the world.
"U.S. consumers have enjoyed interesting foreign sports cars for decades, so it was time for the Americans to return the favor with the worldwide launch of the new Mustang," says Erich Merkle, Ford sales analyst. "Global markets have responded in a huge way. Ford Mustang was the only sports coupe in the world with more than 100,000 units registered last year."
Global data for 2015 suggests Mustang has room to grow overseas this year as many markets begin to take delivery of their full allotment. So far, Merkle notes, global customers are most interested in V8-equipped Mustangs.
"While much of the growth in Mustang demand in the United States has come from coastal markets – especially Southern California – and millennials opting for the 2.3-liter EcoBoost® engine, buyers in other countries prefer the V8," he says. "That unmistakable V8 warble is a hot commodity outside the U.S."
Mustang in Europe, Middle East and Africa
To date, more than 16,600 customers in Europe have ordered a Ford Mustang, which went on sale there last summer. Shipments from Flat Rock Assembly Plant, exclusive production home to Mustang, began in the latter half of 2015. Of the 13,000 sold last year, 4,700 are now in customer hands.
Several significant markets, including United Kingdom, began selling Mustang in the fourth quarter. Total sales there top 3,500 cars, with the first 1,000 pony cars delivered to customers in March.
In Germany, Mustang was the best-selling sports coupe in March, according to data published by German Federal Motor Transport Authority, KBA. Despite relatively high gas prices, the 5.0-liter V8 is the No. 1 engine choice in Germany. The country also has the highest international take-rate for the convertible model, with one in three sales.
Mustang was the best-selling sports coupe last month in France, according to data from the Association Auxilliaire de l'Automobile. Ford sold 339 Mustangs in France in first-quarter 2016.
Incremental sales in South Africa, Cyprus and Malta are helping boost Mustang volume.
EcoBoost, V8 pony cars are big in Asia
In fourth-quarter 2015, Mustang was the best-selling sports coupe in China as exports made their way to dealerships in volume, according to IHS registration data. Buyers in China favor EcoBoost versions.
In its first three months on sale in Australia, Mustang ranks as the best-selling sports coupe. Demand is so strong, the pony car was initially sold out through 2017, but an additional 2,000 Mustangs are slated to ship Down Under by the end of this year.
More than 90 percent of buyers in Australia and New Zealand are opting for the V8 version.
Mustang maintains leadership in North America
In March, Mustang sales of 12,563 cars in the United States outperformed sales of 12,248 for the new Chevrolet Camaro and Dodge Challenger combined, according to published figures. Mustang was the best-selling sports coupe in the U.S. for all of 2015 and through the first quarter of 2016, according to industry-reported numbers.
In Canada, Mustang sales leadership is nothing new; it has outsold Camaro every year since 1985, according to data from the Canadian Vehicle Manufacturers Association. Ford has the best-selling sports coupe in Canada.
And in Mexico, Mustang was the best-selling sports coupe last year, according to IHS registration data. Mustang sales were up 176 percent in Mexico in 2015 versus 2014.
Chevy needs to do some research and make some changes.
I saw a Mustang convertible in my town of ~60k a week or so ago.
Quote from: CaminoRacer on April 20, 2016, 12:39:38 AM
Chevy needs to do some research and make some changes.
The "research" is Ford has been killing it with fleet sales the last number of quarters (40-50% higher than GM), the Mustang has always sold a lot more to fleets and the Mustang is now notably cheaper than the Camaro. Add that all together and the Camaro can only sell less. My hunch is GM is neither surprised nor upset though - it can be argued the two are no longer direct competitors owing to the gap in performance and price.
Quote from: CaminoRacer on April 20, 2016, 12:39:38 AM
Chevy needs to do some research and make some changes.
What can they do.... pretty hard to lower the shoulder height
Quote from: GoCougs on April 20, 2016, 02:54:32 AM
The "research" is Ford has been killing it with fleet sales the last number of quarters (40-50% higher than GM), the Mustang has always sold a lot more to fleets and the Mustang is now notably cheaper than the Camaro. Add that all together and the Camaro can only sell less. My hunch is GM is neither surprised nor upset though - it can be argued the two are no longer direct competitors owing to the gap in performance and price.
IDK bro.... Rustang might be outselling the whole Alpha platform at this point. 1 model >>> a whole platform. I doubt they are happy about that.
Camaro has little appeal overseas. I've heard Mustang5 outsold Camaro5 in Europe despite the fact that the Camaro was officially marketed and sold there by Chevy while Mustangs were grey imports (no warranty or factory support).
I aint never seen no Camaro fer sale at a dealership out here.
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on April 20, 2016, 05:47:42 AM
What can they do.... pretty hard to lower the shoulder height
People demand smaller windows! Seeing out of your car is passe!
Quote from: Raza on April 20, 2016, 06:10:46 AM
People demand smaller windows! Seeing out of your car is passe!
I dont need windows at all as long as I can beat poseur mobiles at the stoplight.
Quote from: GoCougs on April 20, 2016, 02:54:32 AM
The "research" is Ford has been killing it with fleet sales the last number of quarters (40-50% higher than GM), the Mustang has always sold a lot more to fleets and the Mustang is now notably cheaper than the Camaro. Add that all together and the Camaro can only sell less. My hunch is GM is neither surprised nor upset though - it can be argued the two are no longer direct competitors owing to the gap in performance and price.
(http://rs270.pbsrc.com/albums/jj93/DerAlt/Sour-Grapes.jpg~c200)
Don't they tax up the wazoo for large displacement V8 engines in Europe and gas is super expensive as well? What gives? Are these cars only for people with bank accounts in Panama?
Well duh Mustang sales are on the rise. People keep crashing them leaving car meets! :devil:
Quote from: veeman on April 20, 2016, 06:45:11 PM
Don't they tax up the wazoo for large displacement V8 engines in Europe and gas is super expensive as well? What gives? Are these cars only for people with bank accounts in Panama?
Hence the new 2.3-liter turbo.
Quote from: Raza on April 20, 2016, 06:10:46 AM
People demand smaller windows! Seeing out of your car is passe!
It doesn't even look good. I heard that Ed Welburn wanted the roofline even lower.
I want to like it, but the tiny windows just ruin the whole look.
Maybe they should call the Camaro a Trans Am in the rest of the world and put a screaming chicken on the hood? Everybody loves the Bandit!
Seriously the Camaro doesn't sell internationally because I can't think of any Hollywood flick which had a Camaro in it front and center. It has nothing to do with ergonomics or sightlines.
The Trans Am has not only the Bandit but also Knight Rider and Germans love David Hasselhoff.
Quote from: ifcar on April 20, 2016, 08:41:36 PM
Hence the new 2.3-liter turbo.
But the article says that internationally people are buying the V8
Quote from: veeman on April 20, 2016, 08:50:44 PM
But the article says that internationally people are buying the V8
Ah, you're right. I guess maybe some members of the M3 crowd wanted to try something more novel.
Quote from: veeman on April 20, 2016, 08:49:52 PM
Maybe they should call the Camaro a Trans Am in the rest of the world and put a screaming chicken on the hood? Everybody loves the Bandit!
Seriously the Camaro doesn't sell internationally because I can't think of any Hollywood flick which had a Camaro in it front and center. It has nothing to do with ergonomics or sightlines.
The Trans Am has not only the Bandit but also Knight Rider and Germans love David Hasselhoff.
Transformers, yo! Huge hit internationally.
Quote from: veeman on April 20, 2016, 08:49:52 PM
Maybe they should call the Camaro a Trans Am in the rest of the world and put a screaming chicken on the hood? Everybody loves the Bandit!
Seriously the Camaro doesn't sell internationally because I can't think of any Hollywood flick which had a Camaro in it front and center. It has nothing to do with ergonomics or sightlines.
Transformers
Quote from: ifcar on April 20, 2016, 09:16:27 PM
Ah, you're right. I guess maybe some members of the M3 crowd wanted to try something more novel.
Transformers, yo! Huge hit internationally.
Quote from: MX793 on April 20, 2016, 09:17:26 PM
Transformers
Forgot about that one. In truth though, Camaro is not front and center and no one wants to be like Bumblebee or Shia LaBeouf. Burt Reynolds in a cowboy hat doing burnouts is far cooler. Also no one has any nostalgia about the Transformers movies. The original Bumblebee in the cartoon was a VW bug I think or resembled one.
Quote from: Cookie Monster on April 20, 2016, 06:54:43 PM
Well duh Mustang sales are on the rise. People keep crashing them leaving car meets! :devil:
:golfclap:
What is this the 1800's? Hot cakes don't sell very well anymore.
Quote from: Cookie Monster on April 20, 2016, 06:54:43 PM
Well duh Mustang sales are on the rise. People keep crashing them leaving car meets! :devil:
Wyld Stallyns
Quote from: veeman on April 20, 2016, 06:45:11 PM
Don't they tax up the wazoo for large displacement V8 engines in Europe and gas is super expensive as well? What gives? Are these cars only for people with bank accounts in Panama?
Gas is expensive (because of a tax) and engine capacity and emissions levels are taxed.
I assume that most European Mustang buyers will use it as their weekend fun car and have a more fuel-efficient car as their daily driver. You also have to keep in mind that a European who buys a Mustang is most likely financially stable/well-off and can afford the gasoline and taxation costs.
The Mustang has a mythical reputation here among car guys. The classic Mustang is a popular Oldtimer here and most of the people who want one also want a V8, because that's part of the Mustang's character they want to experience.
(https://sp.yimg.com/xj/th?id=OIP.M4905786dd08715a58377f79d5a469065o0&pid=15.1&P=0&w=300&h=300)
Quote from: Laconian on April 21, 2016, 02:55:56 PM
What is this the 1800's? Hot cakes don't sell very well anymore.
When exactly was the Great Hot Cakes Rush?
Quote from: Soup DeVille on April 21, 2016, 06:59:12 PM
When exactly was the Great Hot Cakes Rush?
Summer of 1857.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hotcake_Rush_of_1857
I clicked that :lol:
:lol: :clap:
Quote from: Laconian on April 21, 2016, 07:31:53 PM
I clicked that :lol:
I clicked that even after reading your post. :facepalm: :lol: :clap:
Quote from: CLKid on April 20, 2016, 12:36:30 AM
In Germany, Mustang was the best-selling sports coupe in March, according to data published by German Federal Motor Transport Authority, KBA. Despite relatively high gas prices, the 5.0-liter V8 is the No. 1 engine choice in Germany. The country also has the highest international take-rate for the convertible model, with one in three sales.
Does not surprise me considering that Ford looked away when German Ford dealerships were selling grey import Mustangs in the past.
I wonder if
- BMW is regretting tossing the V8 from the M3
- GM is regretting putting the vacuum cleaner V6TT in the ATS-V
I'm also surprised the Camaro isn't seeing similar success. Well, maybe not so much with the visibility/livability issues.
Drove with a new Camaro most of the way up to Columbus last weekend. It was a blue V6 model. Hot damn, it looks sooooo much better than the last one. :wub:
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on April 27, 2016, 06:36:58 AM
I wonder if
- BMW is regretting tossing the V8 from the M3
- GM is regretting putting the vacuum cleaner V6TT in the ATS-V
I'm also surprised the Camaro isn't seeing similar success. Well, maybe not so much with the visibility/livability issues.
Its so hard to figure out why they did that. They have such a great engine in the LT1 (pooprods4life). They should be putting that engine in every car possible IMHO. I can't imagine building the LT1 with its economies of scale is more expensive than the one-off engine they built for the ATS-V.
The TTV6 is found in a couple of models (CTS and XTS) and will likely appear in more in the future. The ATS-V version has had a few tweaks for more power versus other applications, but isn't really bespoke.
All the models the V6TT is in are selling well below expectations and declining
Meanwhile the LT1 is ubiquitous
If someone wants a BMW they will buy a BMW. Its no coincidence that Cadillac's flagship has a hairy chested V8 in it.
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on April 27, 2016, 07:38:29 AM
All the models the V6TT is in are selling well below expectations and declining
Meanwhile the LT1 is ubiquitous
If someone wants a BMW they will buy a BMW. Its no coincidence that Cadillac's flagship has a hairy chested V8 in it.
The LT1 is only used in the Corvette and Camaro, the latter not exactly setting the world on fire. Everything else is using some lesser variant of the GenV small block.
I've always thought it would be interesting to see GM use the 5.3 in a performance application. Like as the middle engine option in the Camaro instead of the V6.
All the Gen Vs have LT-1 tech. The L86 is just tuned for trucks. They can spread it around. There is no point in having the V6TT, they can refine the LT-1 for Alpha duty.
The GM TTV6 is found in the ATS-V, XTS VSport (a car I secretly love), CTS VSport, and new CT6, so they're getting good mileage out of it.
The LT1 is used in the Corvette and Camaro, a slightly tweaked version is used in full-size trucks and SUVs, and it serves as the building block for the supercharged LT4, so they're getting a lot of mileage out of this too.
The thing is, though the LT1 has better performance, economy and driving experience, it is not as inherently refined as a TT DOHC V6, and GM is probably anticipating Euroist-style displacement/cylinder # tax coming down the pike.
I still would have liked to see the LT1 in the ATS-V. As it is there's no real reason to buy one (save that you're a Caddy fanboy, if such a thing exists), unlike the CTS-V.
GM thinking they will ever make endroads with Cadillac in Europe is Sergio grade hubris. If they made any decisions based on that the leadership is worse than I thought. That decision is particularly hilarious in the context of the Mustang's European success. Pile em high, give em brum, sell em cheap- this has been the American modus operandi since Detroit's hey days.
Getting back to the spirit of this thread, despite their strong sales numbers, I'm only now just starting to see S550s on the streets locally with any sort of frequency. Last year, I don't think I had even ten S550 spottings locally (and a couple I'm pretty sure were the same car that I crossed paths with more than once through the course of the summer). The dealer I bought mine from still has a leftover 2015 that has been on their lot since October of 2014. Gen5 Camaros are a dime a dozen, and Challengers are pretty plentiful as well. Guess this just isn't Mustang country. There used to be GM and Chrysler plants in the area, so that may play into it.
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on April 27, 2016, 04:19:14 PM
GM thinking they will ever make endroads with Cadillac in Europe is Sergio grade hubris. If they made any decisions based on that the leadership is worse than I thought. That decision is particularly hilarious in the context of the Mustang's European success. Pile em high, give em brum, sell em cheap- this has been the American modus operandi since Detroit's hey days.
Caddy would do OK in Europe if they were unapologetically, almost embarassingly American. I'm talking about making longhorn steer horn hood ornaments a dealer installed option, and having a shifter shaped like the grip of a Colt Peacemaker.
We're not going to out Euro the Euros. Let's out 'Murrican them.
Quote from: MX793 on April 27, 2016, 04:21:21 PM
Getting back to the spirit of this thread, despite their strong sales numbers, I'm only now just starting to see S550s on the streets locally with any sort of frequency. Last year, I don't think I had even ten S550 spottings locally (and a couple I'm pretty sure were the same car that I crossed paths with more than once through the course of the summer). The dealer I bought mine from still has a leftover 2015 that has been on their lot since October of 2014. Gen5 Camaros are a dime a dozen, and Challengers are pretty plentiful as well. Guess this just isn't Mustang country. There used to be GM and Chrysler plants in the area, so that may play into it.
You know, I haven't seen many on the street either. My neighbor's got one but otherwise I've just seen rental cars.
I have been seeing a few out here. I think there is a guy who has a yellow convertible that lives in my neighborhood and works close to or at my job. It is def top down weather here. Actually yesterday I passed a GT on a 2 lane road.... on the bike. Some old man.
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on April 27, 2016, 04:19:14 PM
GM thinking they will ever make endroads with Cadillac in Europe is Sergio grade hubris. If they made any decisions based on that the leadership is worse than I thought. That decision is particularly hilarious in the context of the Mustang's European success. Pile em high, give em brum, sell em cheap- this has been the American modus operandi since Detroit's hey days.
That's still only good for niche success, though, and reinforcing stereotypes makes it that much harder to expand from that niche.
Word - the new Camaro is far more "European" than the Mustang - smaller, lighter, better engine and performance package choices but the Mustang sells well in Europe for the same reason Buick sells well in China and Wrangler sells well in the USA (I should say I don't even think/know if GM is targeting the Camaro for Europe).
Shame about the Camaro being ugly
Quote from: 280Z Turbo on April 27, 2016, 06:29:08 PM
Shame about the Camaro being ugly
And a submarine
"Man up and learn to drive a car with no windows"
Europe says, thanks but no thanks :lol:
Quote from: MX793 on April 27, 2016, 04:21:21 PM
Getting back to the spirit of this thread, despite their strong sales numbers, I'm only now just starting to see S550s on the streets locally with any sort of frequency. Last year, I don't think I had even ten S550 spottings locally (and a couple I'm pretty sure were the same car that I crossed paths with more than once through the course of the summer). The dealer I bought mine from still has a leftover 2015 that has been on their lot since October of 2014. Gen5 Camaros are a dime a dozen, and Challengers are pretty plentiful as well. Guess this just isn't Mustang country. There used to be GM and Chrysler plants in the area, so that may play into it.
Same here! I'm lucky if I see one or two New Stangs a week!
Quote from: 280Z Turbo on April 27, 2016, 06:29:08 PM
Shame about the Camaro being ugly
To each his own! The Camro looks 10x better than the Stang to me! And that's not Fanboi talk!
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on April 27, 2016, 06:57:13 PM
And a submarine
"Man up and learn to drive a car with no windows"
Europe says, thanks but no thanks :lol:
:deadhorse" And I thought the C6 "bad seats" shit got old fast..........
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on April 27, 2016, 04:45:51 PM
I have been seeing a few out here. I think there is a guy who has a yellow convertible that lives in my neighborhood and works close to or at my job. It is def top down weather here. Actually yesterday I passed a GT on a 2 lane road.... on the bike. Some old man.
Our local dealer has a few on the lot. Cars are tucked away in the rear, the prime display space is taken up by trucks and SUVs, the cash cows. I've seen several in town.
Quote from: Gotta-Qik-G8 on April 27, 2016, 07:47:07 PM
To each his own! The Camro looks 10x better than the Stang to me! And that's not Fanboi talk!
I don't really have a dog in the fight (I cannot see myself ever buying a Camaro or Mustang), but IMHO the Camaro is a much nicer looking car (on the outside at least).
Quote from: SJ_GTI on April 28, 2016, 06:24:12 AM
I don't really have a dog in the fight (I cannot see myself ever buying a Camaro or Mustang), but IMHO the Camaro is a much nicer looking car (on the outside at least).
It's taking me a while to warm to this Mustang compared to the last.
(http://hanabi.autoweek.com/sites/default/files/styles/gen-1200-675/public/IMG_6978.JPG?itok=d3noalYC)
It is undoubtedly sleeker than the old model, but it just doesn't look quite like a Mustang to me.
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/b1tEXzH5jzM/maxresdefault.jpg)
Still, it's a much more delicate and svelte looking car than the new Camaro. The high beltline and lack of glass make the car look very visually heavy, which is a detriment.
The new Camaro looks smaller than the new Mustang in person, for what it's worth. Though neither is really going for delicate or svelte.
Different strokes for different folks. I see that same comparison you posted and it reinforces my opinion that the Camaro is much nicer looking. :lol:
The new mustang schnozz is rough. Look at how much bigger the front overhang is compared to the Camaro. Everything looks tighter and more buttoned up on the Camaro IMO.
Good point on the overhang.
I would really like the Camaro to look more like this... hardly noticeable but important to me if I'm looking at the car a lot.
and I'd throw on 18's instead of 20's with a proportionate reduction in overall tire diameter.
I'd take the new Camaro in a second. I would love a new SS
Quote from: MrH on April 28, 2016, 07:04:58 AM
The new mustang schnozz is rough. Look at how much bigger the front overhang is compared to the Camaro. Everything looks tighter and more buttoned up on the Camaro IMO.
I'll give you that; the nose on the Mustang is probably the most troubling part of that design, which is probably why I haven't warmed to it so much.
I haven't noticed the Mustang overhang before. It's like a double/triple chin in that photo.
Quote from: MrH on April 28, 2016, 07:04:58 AM
The new mustang schnozz is rough. Look at how much bigger the front overhang is compared to the Camaro. Everything looks tighter and more buttoned up on the Camaro IMO.
The angle of those photos isn't helping. The Mustang is being shot from an angle that is slightly forward of a dead-on profile, which makes the overhang appear larger. The Camaro has less front overhang, but it's not as much as it appears in those photos. My avatar is a true profile shot and it doesn't look nearly as much as the other photo.
The nose is my least favorite part of the S550. Something about it just seems a little off. It's not ugly, per se, but it's not as attractive as it could be.
It just goes on and on. The worst part: It looks like it bulges out even wider once you get past the front tires. I don't like the look of it at all. Then you've got the stupid fish gill LEDs too. Woof.
The latest Mustang, to me, just looks too parts-bin-y. Those headlights, for example, could be Taurus headlights. The car doesn't necessarily scream "I'm a Mustang" like the ones before it. Swap the fascias and you have yourself a 2-door Taurus.
Quote from: CaminoRacer on April 28, 2016, 09:32:12 AM
I haven't noticed the Mustang overhang before. It's like a double/triple chin in that photo.
It's probably a little pronounced in that photo, since it's not a straight on profile shot.
Not as bad in a real profile shot:
(https://s3.amazonaws.com/motofuze/chrome/styles/378461/images/2016FOC050002_640_03.png)
Quote from: giant_mtb on April 28, 2016, 09:39:18 AM
The latest Mustang, to me, just looks too parts-bin-y. Those headlights, for example, could be Taurus headlights. The car doesn't necessarily scream "I'm a Mustang" like the ones before it. Swap the fascias and you have yourself a 2-door Taurus.
Mustangs have always been a little slapped together. From the 80s up through 04 I wouldn't say any Rustang really had a distinctive "look". The Foxbody had headlights like an F150 and taillights like a Tempo. The following two only had distinguished taillights. The 05-14 was distinctive but IMO they all looked really cheap. This one has an unfortunate nose, but it feels like a premium product. For a car that can hit $45 or so thousand in a midlevel trim I think that's important. You can fix ugly, you can't fix thoroughly cheap.
05-14 were distinctive because they were retro.
Quote from: CaminoRacer on April 28, 2016, 09:32:12 AM
I haven't noticed the Mustang overhang before. It's like a double/triple chin in that photo.
I think it is just the angle. From a normal side shot its overhang is not much different than the Camaro, I don't think.
Quote from: SJ_GTI on April 28, 2016, 11:00:42 AM
I think it is just the angle. From a normal side shot its overhang is not much different than the Camaro, I don't think.
For sure. I've seen plenty in real life and it looks fine. A bit more of a overhang than the Camaro, however. Camaro is BMW-level in that regard.
IMO the new Camaro looks amazing. yeah, the windows are small but the Mustang just looks awkward.
The new Camaro looks fantastic in person.
Quote from: CaminoRacer on April 28, 2016, 10:59:37 AM
05-14 were distinctive because they were retro.
I mean, this looks amazing:
(http://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/testdrive/gallery/ford-mustang-shelby-gt500-review-2014_41.jpg)
That is a very flattering color, because it hides that awful, cheap, aftermarket looking rear window. I'm also thinking this one is lowered too. In a light color at stock height they look awful. The front half of the old ones is much better but the back is terrible.
They should've just struck with this design/style...
:rastaman:
(http://www.musclecarszone.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/limited-edition-stevw.jpg)
Quote from: Cookie Monster on April 28, 2016, 11:15:03 AM
IMO the new Camaro looks amazing. yeah, the windows are small but the Mustang just looks awkward.
Quote from: GoCougs on April 28, 2016, 11:28:19 AM
The new Camaro looks fantastic in person.
+1 All the silly details that they had on the previous Camaro is all smoothed out now. No more fake gills on the door sills, no cheap looking taillights. Looks so much cleaner.
Make no mistake I loved the previous Camaro, and it looked better in some ways (or at least more daring) but the new Camaro is indeed more cohesive in design, esp. the front/grill. It also looks more precise (i.e., not only smaller) vs the battleship-ish presence of the previous car.
Quote from: GoCougs on April 28, 2016, 11:28:19 AM
The new Camaro looks fantastic in person.
Yes it does! And you can tell at first sight that it's much smaller than the 5th Gen car.
Quote from: Gotta-Qik-G8 on April 28, 2016, 04:29:20 PM
Yes it does! And you can tell at first sight that it's much smaller than the 5th Gen car.
Saw a new bright Yellow Camaro convertible up here with the top down the other day. My first thought was, Liberace's bathtub...I guess it's just me though :huh:.
Quote from: FoMoJo on April 28, 2016, 12:23:44 PM
They should've just struck with this design/style...
:rastaman:
(http://www.musclecarszone.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/limited-edition-stevw.jpg)
:wub: :wub: :wub:
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on April 28, 2016, 12:11:49 PM
That is a very flattering color, because it hides that awful, cheap, aftermarket looking rear window. I'm also thinking this one is lowered too. In a light color at stock height they look awful. The front half of the old ones is much better but the back is terrible.
That's the GT500, so it's lower than the GT.