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Title: 2020 Explorer
Post by: 2o6 on January 09, 2019, 11:12:06 PM
- New RWD based chassis shared with the Aviator

- 10 speed auto

- 2.3L 4cyl turbo, or 3.0TT only options

https://www.motor1.com/news/300385/2020-ford-explorer-information-price/

(https://cdn.motor1.com/images/mgl/YKzAw/s1/2020-ford-explorer.jpg)
(https://cdn.motor1.com/images/mgl/rpJK6/s1/2020-ford-explorer.jpg)
(https://cdn.motor1.com/images/mgl/vM8xQ/s1/2020-ford-explorer.jpg)
Title: Re: 2020 Explorer
Post by: MrH on January 10, 2019, 05:02:36 AM
They really just stuck a skinny tablet up there.

How does android auto and CarPlay work with portrait shaped screens?
Title: Re: 2020 Explorer
Post by: Payman on January 10, 2019, 05:22:30 AM
It's a nice looking interior, but yeah that screen is really odd and stick up like a sore thumb. There's ample room to turn it sideways and integrate it between smaller vents.
Title: Re: 2020 Explorer
Post by: 12,000 RPM on January 10, 2019, 07:00:20 AM
Quote from: MrH on January 10, 2019, 05:02:36 AM
They really just stuck a skinny tablet up there.

How does android auto and CarPlay work with portrait shaped screens?
Seems like they panicked after the new RAM came out

Dunno why they flipped when the Aviator has a landscape screen. But for the phone stuff they prob just split the screen in half

This looks disrespectful though, like the tablet is pitching a tent. Not a fan
Title: Re: 2020 Explorer
Post by: 2o6 on January 10, 2019, 08:24:34 AM
That tablet looks like an actual Kindle Fire they stuck on the dash
Title: Re: 2020 Explorer
Post by: Payman on January 10, 2019, 08:36:46 AM
Quote from: 2o6 on January 10, 2019, 08:24:34 AM
That tablet looks like an actual Kindle Fire they stuck on the dash

Maybe it is, but now a $3000 option.
Title: Re: 2020 Explorer
Post by: CaminoRacer on January 10, 2019, 09:04:49 AM
I heard they're gonna make a ST too.

:facepalm:
Title: Re: 2020 Explorer
Post by: veeman on January 10, 2019, 10:01:09 AM
I really liked the last gen Explorer I rented a while back. Quiet. Great ride. Looks good. This will sell
well.  I'm sure the police are happy with their new vehicle of choice.
Title: Re: 2020 Explorer
Post by: CaminoRacer on January 10, 2019, 10:06:46 AM
I think it'll be a great vehicle. I'm just disappointed by the direction the automotive world is going in. Glued-on tablets and Explorer STs instead of Focus STs.
Title: Re: 2020 Explorer
Post by: FoMoJo on January 10, 2019, 10:26:49 AM
The interesting aspect of this is the new CD6 platform, also used on the Lincoln Aviator.  Apparently, it will be used for the next generation Mustang as well.

Also, nice looking SUV.
Title: Re: 2020 Explorer
Post by: shp4man on January 10, 2019, 10:38:13 AM
Probably went to RWD to increase towing capacity. Goddam thing may be a real pain in the ass to work on due to the design of looking like a FWD vehicle. See how little space there is between the back of the front fender well and the front door?
Title: Re: 2020 Explorer
Post by: FoMoJo on January 10, 2019, 10:41:21 AM
Quote from: shp4man on January 10, 2019, 10:38:13 AM
Probably went to RWD to increase towing capacity. Goddam thing may be a real pain in the ass to work on due to the design of looking like a FWD vehicle. See how little space there is between the back of the front fender well and the front door?

Apparently, it can also be used for FWD sideways engine applications.
Title: Re: 2020 Explorer
Post by: CaminoRacer on January 10, 2019, 10:57:42 AM
Quote from: FoMoJo on January 10, 2019, 10:26:49 AM
Apparently, it will be used for the next generation Mustang as well.
Quote from: FoMoJo on January 10, 2019, 10:41:21 AM
Apparently, it can also be used for FWD sideways engine applications.

So the next Mustang is gonna be a transverse engine FWD crossover? Nice.
Title: Re: 2020 Explorer
Post by: FoMoJo on January 10, 2019, 11:16:53 AM
Quote from: CaminoRacer on January 10, 2019, 10:57:42 AM
So the next Mustang is gonna be a transverse engine FWD crossover? Nice.
Not likely :lol:, but even if it is, it'll still sell better than a Camaro. :huh:
Title: Re: 2020 Explorer
Post by: SJ_GTI on January 10, 2019, 11:23:57 AM
Quote from: FoMoJo on January 10, 2019, 11:16:53 AM
Not likely :lol:, but even if it is, it'll still sell better than a Camaro. :huh:

Ouch.  :lol:
Title: Re: 2020 Explorer
Post by: r0tor on January 10, 2019, 02:53:39 PM
That tablet is aweful
Title: Re: 2020 Explorer
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on January 10, 2019, 04:20:35 PM
Quote from: r0tor on January 10, 2019, 02:53:39 PM
That tablet is aweful

I'm pretty sure someone's going to get a ticket for using an iPad while driving.
Title: Re: 2020 Explorer
Post by: 68_427 on January 10, 2019, 05:00:24 PM
Quote from: shp4man on January 10, 2019, 10:38:13 AM
Probably went to RWD to increase towing capacity. Goddam thing may be a real pain in the ass to work on due to the design of looking like a FWD vehicle. See how little space there is between the back of the front fender well and the front door?


It went RWD because of Lincoln.  Towing capacity is only like 5600lbs
Title: Re: 2020 Explorer
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on January 10, 2019, 05:06:09 PM
Quote from: 68_427 on January 10, 2019, 05:00:24 PM
It went RWD because of Lincoln.  Towing capacity is only like 5600lbs

Why would Lincoln care if Explorers were RWD? He dead.
Title: Re: 2020 Explorer
Post by: BimmerM3 on January 10, 2019, 05:07:48 PM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on January 10, 2019, 05:06:09 PM
Why would Lincoln care if Explorers were RWD? He dead.

I was gonna ask the same question, except seriously and about the marque. Why does the Aviator need to be RWD?
Title: Re: 2020 Explorer
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on January 10, 2019, 05:21:26 PM
Quote from: BimmerM3 on January 10, 2019, 05:07:48 PM
I was gonna ask the same question, except seriously and about the marque. Why does the Aviator need to be RWD?

And don't act like there haven't been plenty of FWD Lincolns.

Such as the Lincoln Taurus
(http://www.classycars.org/Lincoln/1995.lincoln_continental.jpg)

and the Lincoln Fusion
(https://hips.hearstapps.com/amv-prod-cad-assets.s3.amazonaws.com/images/06q2/267359/2006-lincoln-zephyr-photo-5120-s-original.jpg)
Title: Re: 2020 Explorer
Post by: Gotta-Qik-C7 on January 10, 2019, 06:23:55 PM
Quote from: CaminoRacer on January 10, 2019, 10:06:46 AM
I think it'll be a great vehicle. I'm just disappointed by the direction the automotive world is going in. Glued-on tablets and Explorer STs instead of Focus STs.
:hesaid:

Quote from: FoMoJo on January 10, 2019, 11:16:53 AM
Not likely :lol:, but even if it is, it'll still sell better than a Camaro. :huh:
And still be slower......
Title: Re: 2020 Explorer
Post by: Submariner on January 10, 2019, 07:46:52 PM
Quote from: BimmerM3 on January 10, 2019, 05:07:48 PM
I was gonna ask the same question, except seriously and about the marque. Why does the Aviator need to be RWD?

So it can share a platform with the Rustang?  i.e. Fords only "sedan" going forward.
Title: Re: 2020 Explorer
Post by: BimmerM3 on January 10, 2019, 08:09:31 PM
Quote from: Submariner on January 10, 2019, 07:46:52 PM
So it can share a platform with the Rustang?  i.e. Fords only "sedan" going forward.

but

Quote from: FoMoJo on January 10, 2019, 10:41:21 AM
Apparently, it can also be used for FWD sideways engine applications.
Title: Re: 2020 Explorer
Post by: 12,000 RPM on January 11, 2019, 05:20:21 AM
Quote from: Submariner on January 10, 2019, 07:46:52 PM
So it can share a platform with the Rustang?  i.e. Fords only "sedan" going forward.
I'm not sure. Might be too beefy

And yea the 2.3EB is already in the Lincoln MKC. 2.7EB is in the MKX/Nautilus.
Title: Re: 2020 Explorer
Post by: Soup DeVille on January 11, 2019, 06:04:11 AM
Quote from: BimmerM3 on January 10, 2019, 05:07:48 PM
I was gonna ask the same question, except seriously and about the marque. Why does the Aviator need to be RWD?

Has to be that they can use that drivetrain in more models. I think with modern stability control, there's no longer any dynamic advantage to front wheel drive for 99% of buyers.
Title: Re: 2020 Explorer
Post by: FoMoJo on January 11, 2019, 07:36:17 AM
Quote from: Gotta-Qik-C6 on January 10, 2019, 06:23:55 PM
:hesaid:
And still be slower......
(https://i.postimg.cc/hvhhtV3p/untitled.png)

:hmm:
Title: Re: 2020 Explorer
Post by: Gotta-Qik-C7 on January 11, 2019, 11:30:43 AM
Quote from: FoMoJo on January 11, 2019, 07:36:17 AM
(https://i.postimg.cc/hvhhtV3p/untitled.png)

:hmm:
Blah! It'll get outran just like your 400K GT does by the ZR1......
Title: Re: 2020 Explorer
Post by: CaminoRacer on January 11, 2019, 01:48:29 PM
Quote from: Gotta-Qik-C6 on January 11, 2019, 11:30:43 AM
Blah! It'll get outran just like your 400K GT does by the ZR1......

:rockon:
Title: Re: 2020 Explorer
Post by: FoMoJo on January 11, 2019, 02:00:40 PM
Quote from: Gotta-Qik-C6 on January 11, 2019, 11:30:43 AM
Blah! It'll get outran just like your 400K GT does by the ZR1......
Quote from: CaminoRacer on January 11, 2019, 01:48:29 PM
:rockon:
Only when Granpa's driving the GT :huh:. 
Title: Re: 2020 Explorer
Post by: Gotta-Qik-C7 on January 11, 2019, 06:16:38 PM
Quote from: FoMoJo on January 11, 2019, 02:00:40 PM
Only when Granpa's driving the GT :huh:. 
Take a look at the Lightening Lap numbers....
Title: Re: 2020 Explorer
Post by: FoMoJo on January 11, 2019, 06:38:35 PM
Quote from: Gotta-Qik-C6 on January 11, 2019, 06:16:38 PM
Take a look at the Lightening Lap numbers....
Not bad.  Different courses for different horses.  It couldn't quit pull it off at Willow Springs, even with 100+ more bhp.
Title: Re: 2020 Explorer
Post by: BimmerM3 on January 14, 2019, 06:27:59 PM
Quote from: MrH on January 10, 2019, 05:02:36 AM
They really just stuck a skinny tablet up there.

How does android auto and CarPlay work with portrait shaped screens?

I dunno about CarPlay, but you can run Android Auto as an app on the phone, and it works just fine in portrait there.
Title: Re: 2020 Explorer
Post by: 12,000 RPM on January 18, 2019, 08:21:33 PM
Portrait def makes more sense for infotainment... navigation in particular

Just not like this. They might as well have hung it from the rear view mirror.
Title: Re: 2020 Explorer
Post by: MX793 on January 19, 2019, 07:15:09 AM
That screen is awful.

I'm guessing the 3.0TT is the same one used on the Continental?  I thought that was going to be a Lincoln exclusive engine.
Title: Re: 2020 Explorer
Post by: BimmerM3 on January 19, 2019, 01:24:42 PM
I dunno I think the screen mostly just looks weird because we're not used to portrait infotainment. :huh:
Title: Re: 2020 Explorer
Post by: 12,000 RPM on January 20, 2019, 05:37:31 PM
Quote from: BimmerM3 on January 19, 2019, 01:24:42 PM
I dunno I think the screen mostly just looks weird because we're not used to portrait infotainment. :huh:
No, I think we have all been inoculated through Tesla. It's the portrait infotainment combined with the stuck on tablet look we were just getting used to..
Title: Re: 2020 Explorer
Post by: r0tor on January 20, 2019, 07:23:41 PM
Quote from: BimmerM3 on January 14, 2019, 06:27:59 PM
I dunno about CarPlay, but you can run Android Auto as an app on the phone, and it works just fine in portrait there.

AA can't scale its output... Doubt it will work in landscape

The Giulia has an extra wide display - Carplay can scale and use the screen space, AA can't so I get a giant AA logo on the right 1/4 of the screen
Title: Re: 2020 Explorer
Post by: WookieOnRitalin on January 21, 2019, 04:32:40 AM
I had a '92 Explorer. Now there was a ride. It lasted into the 180k range. It was comfortable and a tank.

This? Yuck.
Title: Re: 2020 Explorer
Post by: 12,000 RPM on January 21, 2019, 06:12:16 AM
The one thing I remember about old Explorers is they felt like they were made of plastic

No matter the age or condition they always seemed to creak and groan. Really weird