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Title: 1967 Honda S800 Is The S2000’s Grandfather, Revs To 10,000 RPM
Post by: cawimmer430 on April 22, 2019, 02:37:55 AM
1967 Honda S800 Is The S2000's Grandfather, Revs To 10,000 RPM

It's time to check those finances again, because another exciting car is coming up for sale. It's a 1967 Honda S800 Coupe and promises to go easy on your wallet.

Advertised by SilverstoneAuctions for their Heythrop Classic Car Sale on May 11 in Chipping Norton, UK, it's expected to sell for £15,000-£20,000 ($19,519-$26,025/€17,336-€23,115). That's new Ford Fiesta money in Britain, yet it could get you this great, tiny sports car instead.

(https://images.carscoops.com/2019/04/ddbd3844-1967-honda-s800-1.jpg)

The successor of the S500 and S600, and the forefather of the widely popular S2000, the S800 was presented at the Tokyo Motor Show in 1965. Power came from a 0.8-liter four-cylinder engine, which could be revved up to 10,000 rpm. The 70 horsepower available on tap allowed it to reach a top speed of almost 100 miles per hour (160 km/h).

This example came to life two years after the first S800 was introduced and was subjected to a full body-off restoration. The work was completed between 2014 and 2017 and saw the engine being overhauled two years ago by the S800 Club Chairman, who is a former Rolls-Royce engineer.

As a result, the car is in very good overall condition, with the red paintwork and chrome trim shining. The black interior is clean and so is the engine bay. The only drawback is that this is a right-hand drive model, but this is something its future owner will have to live with, as given the rarity of these cars, nobody knows when another one will be in search of a new home again.


Link: https://www.carscoops.com/2019/04/1967-honda-s800-is-the-s2000s-grandfather-revs-to-10000-rpm/


(https://images.carscoops.com/2019/04/6bd8fdce-1967-honda-s800-19.jpg)

(https://images.carscoops.com/2019/04/d631488d-1967-honda-s800-3.jpg)

(https://images.carscoops.com/2019/04/ff11cc5f-1967-honda-s800-5.jpg)

(https://images.carscoops.com/2019/04/1ee516c7-1967-honda-s800-15.jpg)
Title: Re: 1967 Honda S800 Is The S2000’s Grandfather, Revs To 10,000 RPM
Post by: CaminoRacer on April 22, 2019, 08:17:37 AM
It's over 9000!
Title: Re: 1967 Honda S800 Is The S2000’s Grandfather, Revs To 10,000 RPM
Post by: 12,000 RPM on April 25, 2019, 06:03:58 AM
Horsepower: 70
Torque: N/A

Very cool though
Title: Re: 1967 Honda S800 Is The S2000’s Grandfather, Revs To 10,000 RPM
Post by: Soup DeVille on April 25, 2019, 07:12:08 AM
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on April 25, 2019, 06:03:58 AM
Horsepower: 70
Torque: N/A

Very cool though

49 pounding little feet.

Which for a car that small, might be alright.
Title: Re: 1967 Honda S800 Is The S2000’s Grandfather, Revs To 10,000 RPM
Post by: FoMoJo on April 25, 2019, 07:14:37 AM
Chain drive?


This could be the Great Grandfather of the Honda S800...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsdWgmp4TaQ
Title: Re: 1967 Honda S800 Is The S2000’s Grandfather, Revs To 10,000 RPM
Post by: Soup DeVille on April 25, 2019, 07:15:31 AM
Quote from: FoMoJo on April 25, 2019, 07:14:37 AM
Chain drive?

Quite the little buzz-bucket.

Yes. Just like the Eldorado.
Title: Re: 1967 Honda S800 Is The S2000’s Grandfather, Revs To 10,000 RPM
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on April 25, 2019, 07:16:38 AM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on April 25, 2019, 07:15:31 AM
Yes. Just like the Eldorado.

In that case, GMC is also chain drive  :lol:
Title: Re: 1967 Honda S800 Is The S2000’s Grandfather, Revs To 10,000 RPM
Post by: Soup DeVille on April 25, 2019, 07:18:42 AM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on April 25, 2019, 07:16:38 AM
In that case, GMC is also chain drive  :lol:

Is it? News to me.
Title: Re: 1967 Honda S800 Is The S2000’s Grandfather, Revs To 10,000 RPM
Post by: MX793 on April 25, 2019, 07:25:29 AM
The old Honda sports cars basically had motorcycle power trains.  Low displacement, lots of revs, chain drives.  Only thing missing is a sequential gearbox.
Title: Re: 1967 Honda S800 Is The S2000’s Grandfather, Revs To 10,000 RPM
Post by: 12,000 RPM on April 25, 2019, 07:53:27 AM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on April 25, 2019, 07:12:08 AM
49 pounding little feet.

Which for a car that small, might be alright.
It has a worse p/w ratio than my old Civic. I guess it's about the experience. The 60s were a different time
Title: Re: 1967 Honda S800 Is The S2000’s Grandfather, Revs To 10,000 RPM
Post by: Soup DeVille on April 25, 2019, 08:01:54 AM
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on April 25, 2019, 07:53:27 AM
It has a worse p/w ratio than my old Civic. I guess it's about the experience. The 60s were a different time

I guarantee its a more visceral drive than your Civic, your 350Z, or your G.
Title: Re: 1967 Honda S800 Is The S2000’s Grandfather, Revs To 10,000 RPM
Post by: FoMoJo on April 25, 2019, 08:05:16 AM
It was in line with the Austin Healey Sprite and MG Midget of that time; though the Sprite and the Midget came out in the late '50s.
Title: Re: 1967 Honda S800 Is The S2000’s Grandfather, Revs To 10,000 RPM
Post by: MX793 on April 25, 2019, 08:07:58 AM
Quote from: FoMoJo on April 25, 2019, 08:05:16 AM
It was in line with the Austin Healey Sprite and MG Midget of that time; though the Sprite and the Midget came out in the late '50s.

It would have been quicker than a lot of the British roadsters of the era.
Title: Re: 1967 Honda S800 Is The S2000’s Grandfather, Revs To 10,000 RPM
Post by: FoMoJo on April 25, 2019, 08:10:58 AM
Quote from: MX793 on April 25, 2019, 08:07:58 AM
It would have been quicker than a lot of the British roadsters of the era.
The tiny ones, likely.  They were around 1000 cc of pretty lame technology of the time.
Title: Re: 1967 Honda S800 Is The S2000’s Grandfather, Revs To 10,000 RPM
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on April 25, 2019, 08:38:27 AM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on April 25, 2019, 07:18:42 AM
Is it? News to me.

I mean, the camshaft is chain driven, and the front driveshaft is chain driven, so...
Title: Re: 1967 Honda S800 Is The S2000’s Grandfather, Revs To 10,000 RPM
Post by: Xer0 on April 25, 2019, 08:48:07 AM
I so wish I had the space to get an S2K.  Right now my carport spot is only for 1.5 cars which makes it useless for two cars  :cry:
Title: Re: 1967 Honda S800 Is The S2000’s Grandfather, Revs To 10,000 RPM
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on April 25, 2019, 08:56:47 AM
Quote from: Xer0 on April 25, 2019, 08:48:07 AM
I so wish I had the space to get an S2K.  Right now my carport spot is only for 1.5 cars which makes it useless for two cars  :cry:

S2K is only half a car, really, and it's the only one that needs to be under a port.
Title: Re: 1967 Honda S800 Is The S2000’s Grandfather, Revs To 10,000 RPM
Post by: Xer0 on April 25, 2019, 09:02:22 AM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on April 25, 2019, 08:56:47 AM
S2K is only half a car, really, and it's the only one that needs to be under a port.

I've thought about how to make it work.  S2K + Civic Hatch is probably ideal situation.  But I just don't think its in the cards.  Right now the Civic Type R is the front runner, assuming I can't find a slightly used M2 at a good price.
Title: Re: 1967 Honda S800 Is The S2000’s Grandfather, Revs To 10,000 RPM
Post by: MrH on April 25, 2019, 09:18:00 AM
Quote from: Xer0 on April 25, 2019, 09:02:22 AM
I've thought about how to make it work.  S2K + Civic Hatch is probably ideal situation.  But I just don't think its in the cards.  Right now the Civic Type R is the front runner, assuming I can't find a slightly used M2 at a good price.

Honda Accord + S2000 ;)
Title: Re: 1967 Honda S800 Is The S2000’s Grandfather, Revs To 10,000 RPM
Post by: Xer0 on April 25, 2019, 09:27:36 AM
My dad has the 1.5 Sport and its a very nice car.  You get a ton for your money.  But man, its sooooo much bigger of a car than I actually need so Civic Hatch still wins  :lol:
Title: Re: 1967 Honda S800 Is The S2000’s Grandfather, Revs To 10,000 RPM
Post by: Char on April 25, 2019, 09:39:08 AM
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on April 25, 2019, 06:03:58 AM
Horsepower: 70
Torque: N/A

Very cool though
Quote from: CaminoRacer on April 22, 2019, 08:17:37 AM
It's over 9000!

:lol:
Title: Re: 1967 Honda S800 Is The S2000’s Grandfather, Revs To 10,000 RPM
Post by: MX793 on April 25, 2019, 10:25:05 AM
Quote from: FoMoJo on April 25, 2019, 08:10:58 AM
The tiny ones, likely.  They were around 1000 cc of pretty lame technology of the time.

The Honda's power/weight stacks up favorably compared to an MGB, which was 1.5x the weight but only 1.35x the power.
Title: Re: 1967 Honda S800 Is The S2000’s Grandfather, Revs To 10,000 RPM
Post by: FoMoJo on April 25, 2019, 11:11:44 AM
Quote from: MX793 on April 25, 2019, 10:25:05 AM
The Honda's power/weight stacks up favorably compared to an MGB, which was 1.5x the weight but only 1.35x the power.
I would compare it to the MG Midget Mk.I, 1000cc, 46 bhp, torque 65 ft. lbs., weight a bit over 1600 lbs.  Less bhp but more torque; which is more useful overall.

I had one back in the 60s.  A bit uncomfortable, but fun to drive.
Title: Re: 1967 Honda S800 Is The S2000’s Grandfather, Revs To 10,000 RPM
Post by: MX793 on April 25, 2019, 11:33:49 AM
Quote from: FoMoJo on April 25, 2019, 11:11:44 AM
I would compare it to the MG Midget Mk.I, 1000cc, 46 bhp, torque 65 ft. lbs., weight a bit over 1600 lbs.  Less bhp but more torque; which is more useful overall.

I had one back in the 60s.  A bit uncomfortable, but fun to drive.

Technically, the mini roadsters like the Sprite, Midget, and Spitfire were Honda's direct competitors.  The Honda had short gearing, which would offset the difference in crank torque.  Like a motorcycle (or Formula engine of the time), the motor was built to reliably run at higher revs.  IIRC, they had a roller bearing crank which is pretty much unheard of in production, road-going automobiles.
Title: Re: 1967 Honda S800 Is The S2000’s Grandfather, Revs To 10,000 RPM
Post by: 12,000 RPM on April 25, 2019, 02:04:53 PM
Quote from: Xer0 on April 25, 2019, 08:48:07 AM
I so wish I had the space to get an S2K.  Right now my carport spot is only for 1.5 cars which makes it useless for two cars  :cry:
Sounds like you need a motorcycle.
Title: Re: 1967 Honda S800 Is The S2000’s Grandfather, Revs To 10,000 RPM
Post by: Xer0 on April 26, 2019, 10:51:39 AM
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on April 25, 2019, 02:04:53 PM
Sounds like you need a motorcycle.

Um......no.