Here it is, Mazda's first BEV. I also heard a rotary range extender may be possible soon?
Only 176" long, and the battery pack is 35.5 kw/h.
https://www.caranddriver.com/photos/g29556189/mazda-mx-30-concept-photos-info-gallery/?slide=10
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Just like everything else Mazda currently; it will look good, review well, and not be bought by anyone.
Quote from: Xer0 on October 23, 2019, 07:52:16 AM
Just like everything else Mazda currently; it will look good, review well, and not be bought by anyone.
Because it'll be too expensive and too cramped with a poor dealer experience. It will also under deliver in real world driving.
Looks good (though not a fan of those wheels). Will be interested to see how it translates to a production vehicle.
Beautiful. Is that center console made of balsa wood? :confused:
Quote from: SJ_GTI on October 23, 2019, 08:01:15 AM
Looks good (though not a fan of those wheels). Will be interested to see how it translates to a production vehicle.
Mazda is saying it'll be on sale in 2021, so this *is* the production version.
Looks like cork (?)
Some interesting details here, and overall looks pretty upscale. A rotary range extender would be killer.
Never fan of Mazda 'noses' but this is a big improvement. Looks okay for a family of tiny people.
To me it does not look Mazdaish at all, but looks more like a fusion of European Peugeot and Citroen design cues. The only Mazdaish aspect of it is the snout. It does not look bad, though.
Mediocrity
Why is the hood so long? Seems like a wasted opportunity to get more cabin space.
Bluh. Those dumb doors. It's going to be Mazda's Avantime.
Quote from: Laconian on October 23, 2019, 11:07:59 AM
Why is the hood so long? Seems like a wasted opportunity to get more cabin space.
Maybe it is a giant frunk.
Quote from: 2o6 on October 23, 2019, 07:52:50 AM
Because it'll be too expensive and too cramped with a poor dealer experience. It will also under deliver in real world driving.
Mazda's half size smaller dimensions while being priced like its a half size bigger is a strange place to be for them and doesn't look to be helping much.
Quote from: Laconian on October 23, 2019, 11:07:59 AM
Why is the hood so long? Seems like a wasted opportunity to get more cabin space.
Jinba attai :lol:
Mazda lost me after the new 3.
Very nice. Although the leading edge of the hood looks like it could slice pedestrians in half
I read that range is 130 miles on the WTLP cycle. Which would likely be 100 miles in the US.
Boy....
Quote from: 2o6 on October 23, 2019, 11:55:17 AM
I read that range is 130 miles on the WTLP cycle. Which would likely be 100 miles in the US.
Boy....
Sounds right considering the battery pack size. Not good IMO.
Quote from: 2o6 on October 23, 2019, 11:55:17 AM
I read that range is 130 miles on the WTLP cycle. Which would likely be 100 miles in the US.
Boy....
Fail
Quote from: CaminoRacer on October 23, 2019, 12:10:17 PM
Sounds right considering the battery pack size. Not good IMO.
Yeah, even the shitty e-Golf has a better rating.
This thing is DOA.
I've read about successfulv EVs from China that have low range and heavy but are also super cheap (like USD$10,000). At that price 100mi is OK for urban duty.
I doubt that is the case here. That interior screams "I want to cost $35,000".
Quote from: 2o6 on October 23, 2019, 07:52:50 AM
poor dealer experience.
I can't say I've ever noted any real consistency in "dealership experience" when it comes to any of the mainstream brands, good or bad. Maybe because there just aren't many standalone dealerships around here?
Quote from: MX793 on October 23, 2019, 04:56:15 PM
I can't say I've ever noted any real consistency in "dealership experience" when it comes to any of the mainstream brands, good or bad. Maybe because there just aren't many standalone dealerships around here?
I haven't had too bad of an experience, but the friends I know that bought new Mazdas almost didn't because of how awful the salesmen were.
Quote from: 2o6 on October 23, 2019, 06:23:17 PM
I haven't had too bad of an experience, but the friends I know that bought new Mazdas almost didn't because of how awful the salesmen were.
Same dealership?
Not sure you can trace bad dealership experience to a particular brand.
I've done business with 2 different Mazda dealerships. Both were fine. One also sold Mitsubishi and VW out of the same showroom. One was kind of stand-alone in that they had their own dedicated showroom, but they were in a converted shopping mall that had a bunch of other dealerships in it and IIRC the staff split time between Mazda and other brands. I was test driving RX-8s and while there they tossed me the keys to a new Speed3 they had just gotten in even though they knew I had no interest in it.
I went to the Hyundai dealer in the same structure to test out the then-new Genesis coupe and they told me I had to put money down and commit to buy. I walked out laughing and told them "good luck with that". Went to the Hyundai dealer across town and they let me joyride for like an hour in theirs.
I went to a local Chevy dealer to check out the new gen 5 Camaros when they came out and the salesguy was so slimy I felt like I needed a shower when I got home.
My cousin went to a local Subie dealer and the saleman was such a chauvinist I would have sworn the guy was plucked out of 1953 (like he asked her if her husband knew she was out shopping, the tried to show her what he thought would suit a young lady better than Legacy 3.6R she was interested in). She stormed out and bought her car somewhere else. I went to that same dealer to check out WRXs and hovered around a car in plain view of the sales staff for a good 15 minutes, was the only customer in the lot, and all but flagged down a sales person and was ignored. Went to another Subie dealer and they were more than happy to let me check the car out and take a test drive.
Mazda sucks.
My worst dealership experiences have been at Honda stores (my sister also had a terrible experience at one) and one of my friends (who is African-American) had the absolute worst. She walked into a Honda dealership and wanted to buy a new Accord with cash and just as they were starting the transaction, she started to give out her address and they cut her off and asked if it was a part of the city that was considered the "hood". She promptly walked out and went to the Mazda dealership where they gave her no trouble and she walked out with a brand new 6.
Quote from: MX793 on October 23, 2019, 07:24:51 PM
Same dealership?
Not sure you can trace bad dealership experience to a particular brand.
I've done business with 2 different Mazda dealerships. Both were fine. One also sold Mitsubishi and VW out of the same showroom. One was kind of stand-alone in that they had their own dedicated showroom, but they were in a converted shopping mall that had a bunch of other dealerships in it and IIRC the staff split time between Mazda and other brands. I was test driving RX-8s and while there they tossed me the keys to a new Speed3 they had just gotten in even though they knew I had no interest in it.
I went to the Hyundai dealer in the same structure to test out the then-new Genesis coupe and they told me I had to put money down and commit to buy. I walked out laughing and told them "good luck with that". Went to the Hyundai dealer across town and they let me joyride for like an hour in theirs.
I went to a local Chevy dealer to check out the new gen 5 Camaros when they came out and the salesguy was so slimy I felt like I needed a shower when I got home.
My cousin went to a local Subie dealer and the saleman was such a chauvinist I would have sworn the guy was plucked out of 1953 (like he asked her if her husband knew she was out shopping, the tried to show her what he thought would suit a young lady better than Legacy 3.6R she was interested in). She stormed out and bought her car somewhere else. I went to that same dealer to check out WRXs and hovered around a car in plain view of the sales staff for a good 15 minutes, was the only customer in the lot, and all but flagged down a sales person and was ignored. Went to another Subie dealer and they were more than happy to let me check the car out and take a test drive.