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Title: Ford Freestyle
Post by: Catman on May 27, 2005, 01:52:34 AM
I think it is.  The packaging is excellent as is the quality of construction.  But damn, Ford should have had the 3.5L ready when the car came out.

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Title: Ford Freestyle
Post by: BMWDave on May 27, 2005, 04:56:54 AM
Is this the car you want to get?
Title: Ford Freestyle
Post by: ifcar on May 27, 2005, 05:27:41 AM
You know my vote.  
Title: Ford Freestyle
Post by: City Pig on May 27, 2005, 07:28:40 AM
I was looking at one of those when I was shopping around. I think it's the perfect package for someone like me. The only problem was that the sales guys (and gals) didn't even LOOK at me even though I was all over the one in the showroom....Sitting in it, flipping seats, etc. So no test drive or anything. I guess a 32 year old male with a wife, dog and kids (in the near future) isn't their target market....

From what I can see the only real issues with it are the CVT and the lack of power. That's what all the reviewers complain about. But what do they know anyway.

However, I'm sure glad they ignored me so I could get the 6.
Title: Ford Freestyle
Post by: mazda6er on May 27, 2005, 07:29:21 AM
I agree, I really like what Ford has done with the Freestyle. It's pretty good looking too.
Title: Ford Freestyle
Post by: Catman on May 27, 2005, 09:32:14 AM
QuoteIs this the car you want to get?
No, not yet anyway.  We're still playing the wait and see game with my wifes job, etc.  Anyway, I doubt I would get a new Freestyle as it wouldn't solve the financial issue.
Title: Ford Freestyle
Post by: TBR on May 27, 2005, 09:57:01 AM
Calling it a crossover is a bit of a stretch, it is nothing more than a station wagon with a slightly body lift, similar to the Outback really. But, I do consider it to be one of the best family vehicles on the market and is a great value to boot.  
Title: Ford Freestyle
Post by: Catman on May 27, 2005, 10:00:56 AM
QuoteCalling it a crossover is a bit of a stretch, it is nothing more than a station wagon with a slightly body lift, similar to the Outback really. But, I do consider it to be one of the best family vehicles on the market and is a great value to boot.
Yeah, it might be a stretch but it has the AWD, cargo room and utility that most people look for in an SUV so what the hell. ;)   One thing is does better is mileage and something often overlooked in SUV's and that's roof access.  Getting a kayak, bike or storage box on and off the roof looks like a breeze on this car.  I hope they get the 3.5 in there soon though.
Title: Ford Freestyle
Post by: ifcar on May 27, 2005, 03:02:38 PM
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QuoteIs this the car you want to get?
No, not yet anyway.  We're still playing the wait and see game with my wifes job, etc.  Anyway, I doubt I would get a new Freestyle as it wouldn't solve the financial issue.
I thought that one of your choices was to trade in the Sequioa for a $20k daily driver. And you can get a Freestyle SE FWD in that price range.  
Title: Ford Freestyle
Post by: Raghavan on May 27, 2005, 04:54:14 PM
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From what I can see the only real issues with it are the CVT
what's wrong with the CVT???
Title: Ford Freestyle
Post by: Raghavan on May 27, 2005, 04:55:05 PM
One question: will Ford ever make an SVT version of this thing? the 4.6 V8 (or even 5.4  :praise: ) would be great in a RWD or AWD package.
Title: Ford Freestyle
Post by: SJ_GTI on May 27, 2005, 06:30:38 PM
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QuoteCalling it a crossover is a bit of a stretch, it is nothing more than a station wagon with a slightly body lift, similar to the Outback really. But, I do consider it to be one of the best family vehicles on the market and is a great value to boot.
Yeah, it might be a stretch but it has the AWD, cargo room and utility that most people look for in an SUV so what the hell. ;)   One thing is does better is mileage and something often overlooked in SUV's and that's roof access.  Getting a kayak, bike or storage box on and off the roof looks like a breeze on this car.  I hope they get the 3.5 in there soon though.
I was surprised when I started seeing these on the road. The are really big, and it definitely looks like an SUV despite what its underpinnings.

Its as much an SUV as an RX300, MDX, X3, Equinox, etc...at least in my opinion.
Title: Ford Freestyle
Post by: ifcar on May 27, 2005, 07:22:41 PM
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From what I can see the only real issues with it are the CVT
what's wrong with the CVT???
He may be concerned about first-year reliability problems from an all-new transmission design, which isn't unreasonable at all.
Title: Ford Freestyle
Post by: ifcar on May 27, 2005, 07:23:19 PM
QuoteOne question: will Ford ever make an SVT version of this thing? the 4.6 V8 (or even 5.4  :praise: ) would be great in a RWD or AWD package.
I have to hope that you're kidding. An "RWD package" on a FWD vehicle?  :rolleyes:  
Title: Ford Freestyle
Post by: Raghavan on May 27, 2005, 07:28:35 PM
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QuoteOne question: will Ford ever make an SVT version of this thing? the 4.6 V8 (or even 5.4  :praise: ) would be great in a RWD or AWD package.
I have to hope that you're kidding. An "RWD package" on a FWD vehicle?  :rolleyes:
same body on a different platform. Freestyle only in looks, and besides, there's been lots of FWD to RWD conversions, and Ford can do it too. After all, they made the Ford Racing Focus RS. ;)  
Title: Ford Freestyle
Post by: ifcar on May 27, 2005, 07:31:39 PM
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QuoteOne question: will Ford ever make an SVT version of this thing? the 4.6 V8 (or even 5.4  :praise: ) would be great in a RWD or AWD package.
I have to hope that you're kidding. An "RWD package" on a FWD vehicle?  :rolleyes:
same body on a different platform. Freestyle only in looks, and besides, there's been lots of FWD to RWD conversions, and Ford can do it too. After all, they made the Ford Racing Focus RS. ;)
Or, they could spend their money building something that people would actually want to buy.  :rolleyes:

Try to think before you post. Which Ford RWD platform did you think a Freestyle body would fit on without extremely costly modification, and how high do you think that the sales volume would have to be to justify that expense?
Title: Ford Freestyle
Post by: Raghavan on May 27, 2005, 07:36:47 PM
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QuoteOne question: will Ford ever make an SVT version of this thing? the 4.6 V8 (or even 5.4  :praise: ) would be great in a RWD or AWD package.
I have to hope that you're kidding. An "RWD package" on a FWD vehicle?  :rolleyes:
same body on a different platform. Freestyle only in looks, and besides, there's been lots of FWD to RWD conversions, and Ford can do it too. After all, they made the Ford Racing Focus RS. ;)
Or, they could spend their money building something that people would actually want to buy.  :rolleyes:

Try to think before you post. Which Ford RWD platform did you think a Freestyle body would fit on without extremely costly modification, and how high do you think that the sales volume would have to be to justify that expense?
they can make a different bodied version and base it on the mustang's platform (like a 2 door, although 2 door SUV's aren't very popular.) And you're right, it would be costly, but it was just a possiblility.
Title: Ford Freestyle
Post by: ifcar on May 27, 2005, 07:39:16 PM
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QuoteOne question: will Ford ever make an SVT version of this thing? the 4.6 V8 (or even 5.4  :praise: ) would be great in a RWD or AWD package.
I have to hope that you're kidding. An "RWD package" on a FWD vehicle?  :rolleyes:
same body on a different platform. Freestyle only in looks, and besides, there's been lots of FWD to RWD conversions, and Ford can do it too. After all, they made the Ford Racing Focus RS. ;)
Or, they could spend their money building something that people would actually want to buy.  :rolleyes:

Try to think before you post. Which Ford RWD platform did you think a Freestyle body would fit on without extremely costly modification, and how high do you think that the sales volume would have to be to justify that expense?
they can make a different bodied version and base it on the mustang's platform (like a 2 door, although 2 door SUV's aren't very popular.) And you're right, it would be costly, but it was just a possiblility.
Here are the reasons that they would never do that:

1. There is no market for such a vehicle, especially at the price they'd have to charge for it.
2. It would be very expensive to make that vehicle.

Even calling it a possibility is, in short, stupid.  
Title: Ford Freestyle
Post by: Raghavan on May 27, 2005, 07:41:49 PM
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QuoteOne question: will Ford ever make an SVT version of this thing? the 4.6 V8 (or even 5.4  :praise: ) would be great in a RWD or AWD package.
I have to hope that you're kidding. An "RWD package" on a FWD vehicle?  :rolleyes:
same body on a different platform. Freestyle only in looks, and besides, there's been lots of FWD to RWD conversions, and Ford can do it too. After all, they made the Ford Racing Focus RS. ;)
Or, they could spend their money building something that people would actually want to buy.  :rolleyes:

Try to think before you post. Which Ford RWD platform did you think a Freestyle body would fit on without extremely costly modification, and how high do you think that the sales volume would have to be to justify that expense?
they can make a different bodied version and base it on the mustang's platform (like a 2 door, although 2 door SUV's aren't very popular.) And you're right, it would be costly, but it was just a possiblility.
Here are the reasons that they would never do that:

1. There is no market for such a vehicle, especially at the price they'd have to charge for it.
2. It would be very expensive to make that vehicle.

Even calling it a possibility is, in short, stupid.
it's stupid, but it's soo cool too.
I wonder why 2 door SUV's arent popular. All of them are gone, with the exception of the Exploder. :angry:  :(  
Title: Ford Freestyle
Post by: ifcar on May 27, 2005, 08:15:11 PM
The Explorer Sport is no longer in production, and Land Rover, Chevrolet, and Suzuki killed off their two-doors recently as well, leaving only the Jeep Wrangler.  
Title: Ford Freestyle
Post by: Raghavan on May 27, 2005, 08:37:16 PM
QuoteThe Explorer Sport is no longer in production, and Land Rover, Chevrolet, and Suzuki killed off their two-doors recently as well, leaving only the Jeep Wrangler.
as well as Isuzu and Nissan less recently. :(  
Title: Ford Freestyle
Post by: Catman on May 27, 2005, 11:42:52 PM
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No, not yet anyway.  We're still playing the wait and see game with my wifes job, etc.  Anyway, I doubt I would get a new Freestyle as it wouldn't solve the financial issue.
I thought that one of your choices was to trade in the Sequioa for a $20k daily driver. And you can get a Freestyle SE FWD in that price range.
If I have to.  Alot of things are up in the air right now, we'll see.
Title: Ford Freestyle
Post by: ifcar on May 28, 2005, 04:37:38 AM
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QuoteThe Explorer Sport is no longer in production, and Land Rover, Chevrolet, and Suzuki killed off their two-doors recently as well, leaving only the Jeep Wrangler.
as well as Isuzu and Nissan less recently. :(
Isuzu killed theirs off something like three years ago, and the most recent Nissan that I can think of would be the 1995 Pathfinder.  
Title: Ford Freestyle
Post by: Raghavan on May 28, 2005, 10:24:41 AM
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as well as Isuzu and Nissan less recently. :(
Isuzu killed theirs off something like three years ago, and the most recent Nissan that I can think of would be the 1995 Pathfinder.
thus the 'less recently'. ;)
Ithink ford should bring back the Bronco. I'd buy it. :praise:  
Title: Ford Freestyle
Post by: BMWDave on May 28, 2005, 08:22:43 PM
The Freelander SE3 really didnt compete with the Wrangler, being that it probably cannot go in a lot of places where the Wrangler can.  The Defender 2 door is a amazing off road vehicle, but sadly, it is not sold in NA anymore.  Anyone know why?
Title: Ford Freestyle
Post by: Raghavan on May 28, 2005, 08:25:04 PM
QuoteThe Freelander SE3 really didnt compete with the Wrangler, being that it probably cannot go in a lot of places where the Wrangler can.  The Defender 2 door is a amazing off road vehicle, but sadly, it is not sold in NA anymore.  Anyone know why?
prolly cos it's unreliable, like all LR's are.
Title: Ford Freestyle
Post by: 93JC on May 28, 2005, 08:27:47 PM
Ten years ago a Defender cost CDN$40,000 new.

It was an ass-reamingly bad deal back then, and it would still be now, as I doubt Land Rover has lowered Defender prices.
Title: Ford Freestyle
Post by: BMWDave on May 28, 2005, 08:30:51 PM
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QuoteThe Freelander SE3 really didnt compete with the Wrangler, being that it probably cannot go in a lot of places where the Wrangler can.  The Defender 2 door is a amazing off road vehicle, but sadly, it is not sold in NA anymore.  Anyone know why?
prolly cos it's unreliable, like all LR's are.
I'm sure thats the reason.  I could generalize Honda with stupid statements like that, but then again, I am not a troll and dont provide generalizations for entire companies. :rolleyes:  
Title: Ford Freestyle
Post by: BMWDave on May 28, 2005, 08:32:16 PM
QuoteTen years ago a Defender cost CDN$40,000 new.

It was an ass-reamingly bad deal back then, and it would still be now, as I doubt Land Rover has lowered Defender prices.
In Europe, one costs 17K pounds, which is like 33K dollars.  Look, think of it as a strictly utilitarian vehicle, like a Hummer.  You will find its ability to operate under extreme conditions in few other cars.  If I needed a vehicle for hard core off roading, the Defender would be it.  
Title: Ford Freestyle
Post by: Raghavan on May 28, 2005, 08:33:30 PM
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QuoteThe Freelander SE3 really didnt compete with the Wrangler, being that it probably cannot go in a lot of places where the Wrangler can.  The Defender 2 door is a amazing off road vehicle, but sadly, it is not sold in NA anymore.  Anyone know why?
prolly cos it's unreliable, like all LR's are.
I'm sure thats the reason.  I could generalize Honda with stupid statements like that, but then again, I am not a troll and dont provide generalizations for entire companies. :rolleyes:
and unlike you, dimwit, i can understand what's a joke and what's not. :rolleyes:  
Title: Ford Freestyle
Post by: BMWDave on May 28, 2005, 08:35:38 PM
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QuoteThe Freelander SE3 really didnt compete with the Wrangler, being that it probably cannot go in a lot of places where the Wrangler can.? The Defender 2 door is a amazing off road vehicle, but sadly, it is not sold in NA anymore.? Anyone know why?
prolly cos it's unreliable, like all LR's are.
I'm sure thats the reason.  I could generalize Honda with stupid statements like that, but then again, I am not a troll and dont provide generalizations for entire companies. :rolleyes:
and unlike you, dimwit, i can understand what's a joke and what's not. :rolleyes:
Youre knowledge of cars is shallow at best, and you are a troll.  If you were joking you would have put a smiley in there, which you did not.  Probably because you were in such a rush to post that you forgot to put in the smiley :rolleyes:  
Title: Ford Freestyle
Post by: Catman on May 28, 2005, 08:38:04 PM
You guys need time out! rokon.gif  
Title: Ford Freestyle
Post by: BMWDave on May 28, 2005, 08:39:34 PM
QuoteYou guys need time out! rokon.gif
Well, it seems as if Raghavan cannot learn how to post a joke, or I suck at reading them.  One or the other.
Title: Ford Freestyle
Post by: Raghavan on May 28, 2005, 08:39:53 PM
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QuoteThe Freelander SE3 really didnt compete with the Wrangler, being that it probably cannot go in a lot of places where the Wrangler can.  The Defender 2 door is a amazing off road vehicle, but sadly, it is not sold in NA anymore.  Anyone know why?
prolly cos it's unreliable, like all LR's are.
I'm sure thats the reason.  I could generalize Honda with stupid statements like that, but then again, I am not a troll and dont provide generalizations for entire companies. :rolleyes:
and unlike you, dimwit, i can understand what's a joke and what's not. :rolleyes:
Youre knowledge of cars is shallow at best, and you are a troll.  If you were joking you would have put a smiley in there, which you did not.  Probably because you were in such a rush to post that you forgot to put in the smiley :rolleyes:
i refer you to my post of the Dodge fires thread. I actually admitted that it's honda's fault and everything, so i don't think i make a very good troll. and if you think my knowledge of cars is shallow, then why don't you take it as a joke? and i didn't want to put in a smiley to see your reaction, but apparently, you fail to take it as a joke AFTER i told you it's a damn joke!
some people... :rolleyes:  
Title: Ford Freestyle
Post by: BMWDave on May 28, 2005, 08:42:13 PM
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QuoteThe Freelander SE3 really didnt compete with the Wrangler, being that it probably cannot go in a lot of places where the Wrangler can.? The Defender 2 door is a amazing off road vehicle, but sadly, it is not sold in NA anymore.? Anyone know why?
prolly cos it's unreliable, like all LR's are.
I'm sure thats the reason.  I could generalize Honda with stupid statements like that, but then again, I am not a troll and dont provide generalizations for entire companies. :rolleyes:
and unlike you, dimwit, i can understand what's a joke and what's not. :rolleyes:
Youre knowledge of cars is shallow at best, and you are a troll.  If you were joking you would have put a smiley in there, which you did not.  Probably because you were in such a rush to post that you forgot to put in the smiley :rolleyes:
i refer you to my post of the Dodge fires thread. I actually admitted that it's honda's fault and everything, so i don't think i make a very good troll. and if you think my knowledge of cars is shallow, then why don't you take it as a joke? and i didn't want to put in a smiley to see your reaction, but apparently, you fail to take it as a joke AFTER i told you it's a damn joke!
some people... :rolleyes:
Now you prove to me that you are a crazy person as well...perhaps I will be posting anti-Honda posts to guage your reaction.  You are one strange person, my friend.
Title: Ford Freestyle
Post by: Catman on May 28, 2005, 08:42:24 PM
Oh relax you two, who cares?  Nothing worth getting bent over.  Move along. :lol:  
Title: Ford Freestyle
Post by: Raghavan on May 28, 2005, 08:43:44 PM
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QuoteThe Freelander SE3 really didnt compete with the Wrangler, being that it probably cannot go in a lot of places where the Wrangler can.  The Defender 2 door is a amazing off road vehicle, but sadly, it is not sold in NA anymore.  Anyone know why?
prolly cos it's unreliable, like all LR's are.
I'm sure thats the reason.  I could generalize Honda with stupid statements like that, but then again, I am not a troll and dont provide generalizations for entire companies. :rolleyes:
and unlike you, dimwit, i can understand what's a joke and what's not. :rolleyes:
Youre knowledge of cars is shallow at best, and you are a troll.  If you were joking you would have put a smiley in there, which you did not.  Probably because you were in such a rush to post that you forgot to put in the smiley :rolleyes:
i refer you to my post of the Dodge fires thread. I actually admitted that it's honda's fault and everything, so i don't think i make a very good troll. and if you think my knowledge of cars is shallow, then why don't you take it as a joke? and i didn't want to put in a smiley to see your reaction, but apparently, you fail to take it as a joke AFTER i told you it's a damn joke!
some people... :rolleyes:
Now you prove to me that you are a crazy person as well...perhaps I will be posting anti-Honda posts to guage your reaction.  You are one strange person, my friend.
i don't care what you think and say of Honda. i'll just say it's a joke and everyone's entitled to their own opinion.
you're fighting a losing war, dave.
Title: Ford Freestyle
Post by: BMWDave on May 28, 2005, 08:43:50 PM
QuoteOh relax you two, who cares?  Nothing worth getting bent over.  Move along. :lol:
All right...we each got our point across, and this argument is ended.
Title: Ford Freestyle
Post by: Raghavan on May 28, 2005, 08:44:19 PM
QuoteOh relax you two, who cares?  Nothing worth getting bent over.  Move along. :lol:
sorry catman, but sometimes dave's an idiot. ive learned not to pull a joke around him...
Title: Ford Freestyle
Post by: Raghavan on May 28, 2005, 08:56:32 PM
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QuoteOh relax you two, who cares?  Nothing worth getting bent over.  Move along. :lol:
All right...we each got our point across, and this argument is ended.
did i win? :lol:
and i still don't get your point.
Title: Ford Freestyle
Post by: BMWDave on May 28, 2005, 09:01:18 PM
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All right...we each got our point across, and this argument is ended.
did i win? :lol:
and i still don't get your point.
no :lol:   You said all LR's are reliable, and I said its unfair to make that generalization.  Case closed.
Title: Ford Freestyle
Post by: Raghavan on May 28, 2005, 09:03:50 PM
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All right...we each got our point across, and this argument is ended.
did i win? :lol:
and i still don't get your point.
no :lol:   You said all LR's are reliable, and I said its unfair to make that generalization.  Case closed.
and i said it was a joke. can you not understand a joke???
Title: Ford Freestyle
Post by: BMWDave on May 28, 2005, 09:05:37 PM
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All right...we each got our point across, and this argument is ended.
did i win? :lol:
and i still don't get your point.
no :lol:   You said all LR's are reliable, and I said its unfair to make that generalization.  Case closed.
and i said it was a joke. can you not understand a joke???
Jesus, I understand!!!!  The argument is done!
Title: Ford Freestyle
Post by: Raghavan on May 28, 2005, 09:09:31 PM
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QuoteOh relax you two, who cares?  Nothing worth getting bent over.  Move along. :lol:
All right...we each got our point across, and this argument is ended.
did i win? :lol:
and i still don't get your point.
no :lol:   You said all LR's are reliable, and I said its unfair to make that generalization.  Case closed.
and i said it was a joke. can you not understand a joke???
Jesus, I understand!!!!  The argument is done!
:lol:  :lol:  
Title: Ford Freestyle
Post by: TBR on May 28, 2005, 10:10:12 PM
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QuoteOh relax you two, who cares?  Nothing worth getting bent over.  Move along. :lol:
sorry catman, but sometimes dave's an idiot. ive learned not to pull a joke around him...
The key is making it obvious that it is a joke, with the lack of smilies and your "beginner's knowledge of cars" I was ready to call you on that comment myself if I needed to. Really, would it kill you to put a few smilies in your posts so that we know you are kidding?  
Title: Ford Freestyle
Post by: Raghavan on May 28, 2005, 10:13:57 PM
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QuoteOh relax you two, who cares?  Nothing worth getting bent over.  Move along. :lol:
sorry catman, but sometimes dave's an idiot. ive learned not to pull a joke around him...
The key is making it obvious that it is a joke, with the lack of smilies and your "beginner's knowledge of cars" I was ready to call you on that comment myself if I needed to. Really, would it kill you to put a few smilies in your posts so that we know you are kidding?
sorry. i'm a postwhore. no time for that. :lol:  
Title: Ford Freestyle
Post by: BMWDave on May 28, 2005, 10:14:42 PM
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sorry catman, but sometimes dave's an idiot. ive learned not to pull a joke around him...
The key is making it obvious that it is a joke, with the lack of smilies and your "beginner's knowledge of cars" I was ready to call you on that comment myself if I needed to. Really, would it kill you to put a few smilies in your posts so that we know you are kidding?
sorry. i'm a postwhore. no time for that. :lol:
That was sort of my point. ;)  
Title: Ford Freestyle
Post by: Raghavan on May 28, 2005, 10:17:14 PM
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QuoteOh relax you two, who cares?  Nothing worth getting bent over.  Move along. :lol:
sorry catman, but sometimes dave's an idiot. ive learned not to pull a joke around him...
The key is making it obvious that it is a joke, with the lack of smilies and your "beginner's knowledge of cars" I was ready to call you on that comment myself if I needed to. Really, would it kill you to put a few smilies in your posts so that we know you are kidding?
sorry. i'm a postwhore. no time for that. :lol:
That was sort of my point. ;)
you guys really underestimate the job of being a postwhore. it's really hard! :lol:  
Title: Ford Freestyle
Post by: ifcar on May 29, 2005, 07:15:23 AM
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QuoteThe Freelander SE3 really didnt compete with the Wrangler, being that it probably cannot go in a lot of places where the Wrangler can.  The Defender 2 door is a amazing off road vehicle, but sadly, it is not sold in NA anymore.  Anyone know why?
prolly cos it's unreliable, like all LR's are.
I'm sure thats the reason.  I could generalize Honda with stupid statements like that, but then again, I am not a troll and dont provide generalizations for entire companies. :rolleyes:
and unlike you, dimwit, i can understand what's a joke and what's not. :rolleyes:
Youre knowledge of cars is shallow at best, and you are a troll.  If you were joking you would have put a smiley in there, which you did not.  Probably because you were in such a rush to post that you forgot to put in the smiley :rolleyes:
Well said. Furthermore, post whoring is post whoring whether it is making worthless auto-related comments or posting smilies.  
Title: Ford Freestyle
Post by: JWC on May 29, 2005, 08:53:01 AM
Well, getting back on topic....................

The Freestyle generated some confusion when it arrived and had to be cataloged at the dealership for the first time. I settled on filing the paperwork for the Freestyle with trucks and minivans because of its VIN. Ford cars have a VIN ending with six numerals (123456); Ford trucks and minivans have a VIN ending with a letter and five numbers (A12345).  

Crossover is the best term for it. Is it a minivan, disguised as a station wagon? A station wagon given a utiity VIN to dodge some Federal safety requirements?  

As for the CVT, we only had one problem so far, early production model.  No problems since. Ford became aware of the problem shortly after the F-style's release and corrected it.
Title: Ford Freestyle
Post by: Raghavan on May 29, 2005, 09:17:00 AM
QuoteWell, getting back on topic....................

The Freestyle generated some confusion when it arrived and had to be cataloged at the dealership for the first time. I settled on filing the paperwork for the Freestyle with trucks and minivans because of its VIN. Ford cars have a VIN ending with six numerals (123456); Ford trucks and minivans have a VIN ending with a letter and five numbers (A12345).  

Crossover is the best term for it. Is it a minivan, disguised as a station wagon? A station wagon given a utiity VIN to dodge some Federal safety requirements?  

As for the CVT, we only had one problem so far, early production model.  No problems since. Ford became aware of the problem shortly after the F-style's release and corrected it.
how are they selling at your dealership?
Title: Ford Freestyle
Post by: Lebowski on May 29, 2005, 09:17:40 AM
QuoteCalling it a crossover is a bit of a stretch, it is nothing more than a station wagon with a slightly body lift ...
Isn't that what most crossovers are?
Title: Ford Freestyle
Post by: ifcar on May 29, 2005, 09:27:39 AM
QuoteWell, getting back on topic....................

The Freestyle generated some confusion when it arrived and had to be cataloged at the dealership for the first time. I settled on filing the paperwork for the Freestyle with trucks and minivans because of its VIN. Ford cars have a VIN ending with six numerals (123456); Ford trucks and minivans have a VIN ending with a letter and five numbers (A12345).  

Crossover is the best term for it. Is it a minivan, disguised as a station wagon? A station wagon given a utiity VIN to dodge some Federal safety requirements?  

As for the CVT, we only had one problem so far, early production model.  No problems since. Ford became aware of the problem shortly after the F-style's release and corrected it.
Ford's website lists it under "cars", but VIN classification is probably more accurate.  
Title: Ford Freestyle
Post by: Raghavan on May 29, 2005, 09:33:59 AM
QuoteWell, getting back on topic....................

The Freestyle generated some confusion when it arrived and had to be cataloged at the dealership for the first time. I settled on filing the paperwork for the Freestyle with trucks and minivans because of its VIN. Ford cars have a VIN ending with six numerals (123456); Ford trucks and minivans have a VIN ending with a letter and five numbers (A12345).  

Crossover is the best term for it. Is it a minivan, disguised as a station wagon? A station wagon given a utiity VIN to dodge some Federal safety requirements?  

As for the CVT, we only had one problem so far, early production model.  No problems since. Ford became aware of the problem shortly after the F-style's release and corrected it.
shouldn't it be classified as a car? it is based on the 500's platform.
Title: Ford Freestyle
Post by: ifcar on May 29, 2005, 10:00:24 AM
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QuoteWell, getting back on topic....................

The Freestyle generated some confusion when it arrived and had to be cataloged at the dealership for the first time. I settled on filing the paperwork for the Freestyle with trucks and minivans because of its VIN. Ford cars have a VIN ending with six numerals (123456); Ford trucks and minivans have a VIN ending with a letter and five numbers (A12345). 

Crossover is the best term for it. Is it a minivan, disguised as a station wagon? A station wagon given a utiity VIN to dodge some Federal safety requirements? 

As for the CVT, we only had one problem so far, early production model.  No problems since. Ford became aware of the problem shortly after the F-style's release and corrected it.
shouldn't it be classified as a car? it is based on the 500's platform.
Many SUVs are based on car platforms. Welcome to the last seven or eight years.  :rolleyes:  
Title: Ford Freestyle
Post by: mazda6er on May 29, 2005, 10:06:18 AM
kids these days. tsk, tsk.
Title: Ford Freestyle
Post by: JWC on May 29, 2005, 10:08:32 AM
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QuoteWell, getting back on topic....................

The Freestyle generated some confusion when it arrived and had to be cataloged at the dealership for the first time. I settled on filing the paperwork for the Freestyle with trucks and minivans because of its VIN. Ford cars have a VIN ending with six numerals (123456); Ford trucks and minivans have a VIN ending with a letter and five numbers (A12345). 

Crossover is the best term for it. Is it a minivan, disguised as a station wagon? A station wagon given a utiity VIN to dodge some Federal safety requirements? 

As for the CVT, we only had one problem so far, early production model.  No problems since. Ford became aware of the problem shortly after the F-style's release and corrected it.
shouldn't it be classified as a car? it is based on the 500's platform.
Many SUVs are based on car platforms. Welcome to the last seven or eight years.  :rolleyes:
:rolleyes:  :D  :D  :lol:  
Title: Ford Freestyle
Post by: Raghavan on May 29, 2005, 10:37:04 AM
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QuoteWell, getting back on topic....................

The Freestyle generated some confusion when it arrived and had to be cataloged at the dealership for the first time. I settled on filing the paperwork for the Freestyle with trucks and minivans because of its VIN. Ford cars have a VIN ending with six numerals (123456); Ford trucks and minivans have a VIN ending with a letter and five numbers (A12345). 

Crossover is the best term for it. Is it a minivan, disguised as a station wagon? A station wagon given a utiity VIN to dodge some Federal safety requirements? 

As for the CVT, we only had one problem so far, early production model.  No problems since. Ford became aware of the problem shortly after the F-style's release and corrected it.
shouldn't it be classified as a car? it is based on the 500's platform.
Many SUVs are based on car platforms. Welcome to the last seven or eight years.  :rolleyes:
thanks. :praise:
Title: Ford Freestyle
Post by: TBR on May 29, 2005, 11:35:41 AM
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QuoteCalling it a crossover is a bit of a stretch, it is nothing more than a station wagon with a slightly body lift ...
Isn't that what most crossovers are?
Mechanically? Yes. Cosmetically? No. The Freestyle looks like a jacked up station wagon while vehicles like the Honda Pilot and Mitsubishi Endeavor look more like suvs.  
Title: Ford Freestyle
Post by: Raghavan on May 29, 2005, 03:07:56 PM
Quotekids these days. tsk, tsk.
those kids. :rolleyes:
:lol: