C-Class Presentation LIVE @ 18:30 CET TIME: http://www.streamevents.de/070118_pk_dc/en/stream_en_dsl.html
OH MY GOD, I AM IN LOVE, I AM IN LOVE! THESE ARE REAL PICTURES FROM A DUTCH MAGAZINE. LOOK AT THE INTERIOR!!! :rockon: :rockon: :rockon:
Scanned from a Dutch car magazine "Autovisie".
I have to give the credits though to the person who scanned it, denne046 at Autoweek.nl forums, thank you very much! - ALWING from GermanCarZone.
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OFFICIAL PICTURES!!!
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Awesome photoshop of what the T-Modell might look like.
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C-Class Troll :devil: :lol:
It's nicely proportioned but hasn't it grown a fair bit in size? Looks considerably bigger than a 3er or A4. The rear has grown on me but I can't help thinking the front is a bit plain. I have a feeling that will grow on me too though. I'm glad they toned down the flared wheelarches from the S-Class.
The interior is great in the first pic - not too keen on the aluminium-style stuff in the second pic.
I wouldn't mind a C270 CDI!
Looks very German, like Mercedes Benz of old. Very nice. Initally I hated the interior but it has kind of grown on me, still I prefer the interior from the current C class. The exterior is a HUGE improvement over the current one.
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Exterior looks great..the interior may have to wear on me though.. :huh:
MORE INTERIOR SHOTS!!!
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looks nice. of course, we already know that.
interior looks great except for the steering and those buttons near the cd player.
anybody alse interested in the supercar shootout at the bottom of the first picture. :tounge:
oh, there seem to be two types of steering wheels, one with four-spokes and one with three-spokes. any info about that wimmer?
well I'd definitely get one over a 3-series, A4, or IS, but it still doesn't win my heart over the new CTS
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Anyone else think the front end is kinda...stubby?
The short overhang is good for handling though I guess.
The car looks very purposeful with a nice set of rims on it.
If I was shopping for a car in this class (I can dream!) I would have a hard time choosing between this and the 3-Series. Especially with the new CTS looking good too.
Sweet mother of God! Jesus H. Christ this is gorgeous!!!!! God damn I want this car so badly!!!!!
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I must say that even including the awful steering wheel, it's better looking inside than the S550.
Quote from: ifcar on January 18, 2007, 11:50:52 AM
I must say that even including the awful steering wheel, it's better looking inside than the S550.
Have to agree! :rockon:
Quote from: nickdrinkwater on January 18, 2007, 08:19:25 AM
C-Class Troll :devil: :lol:
It's nicely proportioned but hasn't it grown a fair bit in size? Looks considerably bigger than a 3er or A4. The rear has grown on me but I can't help thinking the front is a bit plain. I have a feeling that will grow on me too though. I'm glad they toned down the flared wheelarches from the S-Class.
The interior is great in the first pic - not too keen on the aluminium-style stuff in the second pic.
I wouldn't mind a C270 CDI!
I love it, Nick. This thing is hot. Can't wait to see it IRL. :rockon: :partyon:
Quote from: cawimmer430 on January 18, 2007, 11:56:02 AM
I love it, Nick. This thing is hot. Can't wait to see it IRL. :rockon: :partyon:
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When are they in showrooms mate?
That big sized interior pic is actually a CLASSIC (cheap trim level) line interior! :mask:
Autobild: Click link to check all the pics. I've posted a few... :rockon:
http://www.autobild.de/aktuell/meldungen/artikel.php?artikel_id=13114 (http://www.autobild.de/aktuell/meldungen/artikel.php?artikel_id=13114")
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Quote from: nickdrinkwater on January 18, 2007, 11:58:34 AM
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When are they in showrooms mate?
In Germany, end of March. :cry:
Auto Motor und Sport: Click link for more...
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FRIGGIN GORGEOUS!!!! :rockon:
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CLASSIC trim level
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Guys, call an ambulance, I'm having a heart attack! :rockon: :rockon: :rockon:
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Stop your heart attack and work on answering the two car guessing threads. :nono:
Quote from: ifcar on January 18, 2007, 12:18:34 PM
Stop your heart attack and work on answering the two car guessing threads. :nono:
Gimme a few minutes. I am on GermanCarZone right now and this W204 C-Class thread we have there has over 33,000 views and it was only created three days ago! :mask: :mask: :mask:
Press Release from: http://www.emercedesbenz.com/Jan07/18_Its_Official_Mercedes_Finally_Unveils_The_2008_Mercedes_Benz_C_Class.html
It's Official Ladies And Gentlemen: Mercedes Finally Unveils The 2008 C-Class
Posted January 18th, 2006 At 12:20 PM CST
OFFICIAL PRESS RELEASE
The new Mercedes-Benz C-Class: Superior safety, comfort and agility
Stuttgart, Jan 18, 2007
Safety, comfort, agility: these are the outstanding attributes of the new C-Class. The Saloon excels with a many-faceted product concept which meets the expectations of various customer target groups. With the AVANTGARDE, ELEGANCE and CLASSIC lines, Mercedes-Benz offers three individual models whose emphasis is on either comfort or agility. All model variants share the latest, state-of-the-art technology. This includes the newly developed AGILITY CONTROL package with situation-responsive shock absorber control, the Intelligent Light System with five different lighting functions and the PRE-SAFE? preventive occupant protection system. There is a choice of four and six-cylinder engines with up to 13 percent more output than the preceding model, accompanied by up an to six percent lower fuel consumption.
With a length of 4581 millimetres, the Saloon is 55 millimetres longer than its predecessor. The body width has increased by 42 mm to 1770 millimetres, and the wheelbase by 45 mm to 2760 millimetres. These dimensions create the conditions for a generously sized interior, and therefore more comfort. The front shoulder room has increased by 40 millimetres, for example.
The design of the new C-Class is based on the modern Mercedes idiom, which reflects the technical superiority of automobiles bearing the star with taut lines and large, tranquil surfaces. The pronounced wedge-shape of the front end serves to emphasise attributes such as agility and performance. For the first time in a Mercedes salon, the radiator grille is used as a distinguishing feature to position the model variants more clearly. Three extended, horizontal louvres and a big centrally positioned Mercedes star characterise the AVANTGARDE model as a traditional design feature of sporty Mercedes models. Together with the sporty, high-quality appointments, this feature emphasises the youthful, agile appearance of this C-Class. This sporty presence can be enhanced even further with the AMG sports package, which includes striking front and rear aprons plus side skirts.
In the ELEGANCE model Mercedes-Benz employs a three-dimensional, louvred radiator grille with a high-gloss paint finish to accentuate other brand-typical attributes such as comfort and luxury. The CLASSIC model in the new C-Class is intentionally more restrained and traditional, but offers the same technical innovations as the other two model variants.
This "product-in-product" concept enables Mercedes customers to accentuate individual choices, and configure the C-Class to suit their personal taste and lifestyle even more emphatically than before. All the models offer the same, extraordinary driving experience that the Saloon provides by virtue of further technical improvements. Both by its outstanding long-distance comfort and its dynamic handling, the C-Class sets new standards in this market segment.
Shock absorbers automatically adapt to the driving situation
AGILITY CONTROL ? this is the term used by Mercedes-Benz for all new and further developments that improve both comfort and agility in equal measure. This standard package includes the AGILITY CONTROL suspension, which controls the shock absorber forces according to the driving situation: when driving normally with low shock absorber impulses, the damping forces are automatically reduced for a noticeable improvement in ride comfort ? but without any compromise in handling safety. When driving more dynamically, the maximum damping forces are set and the car is effectively stabilised. The AGILITY CONTROL steering of the new C-Class has a ratio of 14.5, and is therefore six percent more direct than the steering of the preceding model. The likewise included AGILITY CONTROL gearshift reflects the sporty character of the C-Class with a short travel and precise shifts.
Mercedes-Benz has also developed the ADVANCED AGILITY package with a sporty driving mode, which will become optionally available from autumn 2007. This offers the driver a choice of two gearshift programmes: Sport and Comfort. Within these programmes the shock absorber for each wheel has infinitely variable electronic control. A newly developed speed-sensitive steering with a more direct ratio, variable centring and adaptation of the accelerator characteristics and automatic transmission shift points is also included in the package.
ADAPTIVE BRAKE is another new development in the area of running gear technology. This is based on the technology of the S-Class and provides additional support functions for even more safety and comfort. Examples include Start-Off Assist for uphill gradients, priming the braking system in critical situations and light contact to dry the brake discs in wet conditions.
Output of the supercharged four-cylinder engines increased by up to 13 percent
With a remarkable boost in output by up to 13 percent and an increase of around 18 percent in torque, the engines also do more than their bit to create the lively nature of the new C-Class. The four and six-cylinder units not only excel with powerful responsiveness, but also contribute to the excellent ride comfort of the Saloon with their improved smoothness.
Mercedes-Benz has paid particular attention to further development of the four-cylinder engines. In the petrol range, the output of the entry-level C 180 KOMPRESSOR has increased from the previous 105 kW/143 hp to 115 kW/156 hp, with maximum torque improved by 4.5 percent from 220 to 230 newton metres, while the C 200 KOMPRESSOR develops 15 kW/20 hp more than before. It has an output of 135 kW/184 hp and generates its maximum torque of 250 newton metres from 2800 rpm. These modified engines considerably improve the performance and fuel consumption of the four-cylinder models. When accelerating from standstill to 100 km/h, the C 200 KOMPRESSOR is 0.5 seconds faster than its predecessor. Improvements in fuel consumption are equally impressive: the C 180 KOMPRESSOR consumes 0.3 litres per 100 kilometres less than before, while the combined fuel consumption of the C 200 KOMPRESSOR has been reduced by 0.5 litres per 100 kilometres.
Fuel consumption of the four-cylinder CDI engines reduced by 0.3 litres
Further development of the four-cylinder units was also the main focus for the diesel engines. The engineers in Stuttgart have made further improvements to the engine, turbocharger and common-rail direct injection, modifying more than 90 components. As a result of these measures the new C 200 CDI has eleven percent more output than the preceding model, with 100 kW/136 hp versus the previous 90 kW/122 hp. The C 220 CDI develops a peak output of 125 kW/170 hp (previously 110 kW/150 hp), and generates a torque of 400 newton metres from 2000 rpm - around 18 percent more than before. Fuel consumption has been reduced by up to 0.3 litres per 100 kilometres: in the New European Driving Cycle (NEDC), the C 200 CDI and C 220 CDI are able to travel 100 kilometres on just 6.1 litres of fuel.
The modern V6-engines in the C-Class range remain unchanged, with a choice of three petrol units developing 150 kW/204 hp, 170 kW/231 hp and 200 kW/272 hp. The six-cylinder of the new C 320 CDI has an output of 165 kW/224 hp. With the exception of the C 350, all models in the new C-Class are equipped with a six-speed transmission featuring AGILITY CONTROL gearshift as standard. The top-of-the-range C 350 has 7G-TRONIC, the world?s only seven-speed automatic transmission, as standard equipment. This is also available for the other six-cylinder C-Class models on request.
The latest Mercedes inventions ensure maximum safety
During the course of its development, the new C-Class successfully passed more than 100 crash tests, including the particularly demanding, in-house impact tests of which some go well beyond the legal requirements. Passing these is a precondition for the highest accolade in automobile safety: the Mercedes star. Occupant protection is based on an intelligently designed bodyshell, 70 percent of which consists of high-strength and ultra high-strength steel. Compared to the previous series, Mercedes-Benz has enlarged the deformation zones even further and improved energy flows. The front-end structure of the new C-Class has four independently acting impact levels, which enable forces to be distributed over a wide area while bypassing the passenger cell.
The safety technology in the interior has been complemented with the very latest protection systems. Seven airbags are included as standard equipment: two adaptive airbags for the driver and front passenger, a kneebag for the driver, two sidebags in the front seat backrests and two large windowbags which extend from the A to the C-pillar during a side impact. The driver, front passenger and the passengers on the outer rear seats also benefit from belt tensioners and belt force limiters as standard. The standard head restraints operate on the NECK PRO principle: during a rear-end collision the padded surfaces are pushed forward within milliseconds to support the heads of the driver and front passenger at an early stage. This significantly reduces the risk of a whiplash injury.
Mercedes-Benz has developed flashing brake lights as a major help in reducing rear-end collisions, and these are also standard equipment in the new C-Class. If the driver needs to brake hard at speeds in excess of 50 km/h, the brake lights flash rapidly to warn drivers following behind.
PRE-SAFE? is another special feature of the new Mercedes Saloon. This preventive occupant protection system (optional) is linked to active safety systems such as ESP? and Brake Assist, and is able to recognise critical driving manoeuvres at a very early stage. If the C-Class is in danger of crashing as a result of heavy under or oversteering, or if the driver needs to brake very heavily in a dangerous situation, PRE-SAFE? activates certain systems as a precaution to prepare the vehicle and its occupants for an impending accident. Accordingly the passive safety phase does not begin when the impact has already occurred, but before an impending collision.
The Intelligent Light System developed by Mercedes-Benz is also available in this vehicle class for the first time. Powerful bi-xenon headlamps provide five different lighting functions suited to typical driving and weather conditions: country mode, motorway mode, enhanced foglamps, the Active Light System and cornering lights. Yet another important contribution by Mercedes-Benz to safer driving in poor visibility.
Interior design "cast from a single mould"
When developing the cockpit, Mercedes designers took their lead from the sporty sector and included clearly laid-out dial instruments such as may be found in roadsters or coup?s. Silver-coloured bezels, black dial faces, white markings and glowing orange needles perfectly combine form with function for a high value impression and easy legibility.
Equally clearly laid out and well-arranged, the two-tone dashboard and centre console of the new C-Class form a harmonious unit in line with the "design cast from a single mould" principle. The same applies to the integration of the colour display at the upper centre of the dashboard. This is perfectly positioned within the driver?s line of vision, but can also be covered or folded away as required, without switching off the radio, navigation system or other units linked to the display. If the pivoting cover of the display aperture is closed, the infotainment units continue to operate.
New control concept for clarity and comfort
The central colour display is part of the new control and display concept which the new C-Class has adopted from the luxury-class Mercedes models. Its major advantage is rapid access to frequently used functions, which means that the driver does not need to relearn, is able to maintain familiar habits and feels at home immediately. All the control and display elements necessary and important during a journey are located in the cockpit, i.e. in immediate proximity to the driver.
In the same way, linking the standard multifunction steering wheel with the instrument cluster is an important precondition for rapid access to a wide range of information and functions in the driver?s direct line of vision. Other functions such as infotainment are shown by the display at the centre of the dashboard. The driver and front passenger are able to control the radio, navigation system or telephone by using a controller on the centre console, or access the main menus using direct selection keys.
COMAND provides voice operation, a music server and DVD navigation
The Audio 20, Audio 50 APS and COMAND APS systems are a range of newly developed, optional infotainment units for C-Class passengers. They all feature a keypad for entering telephone numbers and radio frequencies, as well as a Bluetooth interface which wirelessly connects the mobile phone to the hands-free system. In the Audio 50 APS, the route guidance information ? some of it as a visually attractive automatic junction zoom display - is shown by means of arrows on the fixed colour display (4.9-inch) in the dashboard. An integral 6-CD changer and the LINGUATRONIC voice control system are available on request.
The multimedia system COMAND APS offers even more functions than before in the new C-Class. One new feature is a Europe-wide navigation system whose data are stored on a hard disc (30 gigabytes). The high-resolution maps are shown on a colour display (7-inch) which pivots away and disappears beneath a cover at the touch of a button. Other functions of COMAND APS include a music server with a four-gigabyte memory, a DVD-player for video and audio, and the LINGUATRONIC voice control system, which Mercedes-Benz has likewise improved further: the driver no longer needs to spell out the names of countries, towns or roads, but is able to speak them as whole words. The voice control system is just as convenient when selecting radio stations or entries in the telephone directory.
The C-Class is the bestseller in the Mercedes lineup
The new C-Class Salon replaces a model series of which more than 1.4 million units have been sold since spring 2000. All in all, Mercedes-Benz has delivered more than two million of the Saloon, Estate and Sports Coup? models in the previous C-Class to customers all over the world. This makes the C-Class the bestseller in the Mercedes-Benz passenger car range. Germany is the largest market for the C-Class, accounting for around 30 percent of worldwide sales.
Copyright ? 2007, DaimlerChrysler AG
Hallejuliah!!!
Finally a midisize Mercedes-Benz model with some styling flair. Danke Dr. Zetsche.
Danke Wimmer for the pics. :ohyeah:
This is the best looking Mercedes midsizer since the classic 190E W201. The older C-Class models were so...dull to look at. I really like the interior on the W204 - a huge improvement over the bland W203. The steering wheel is not as ugly as the early pics suggested. I really like the 007 sat/nav screen.
I much prefer the star on the grille. I better save up some dough to buy the C320 CDi Avantgarde! :lol:
Quote from: Andaluz on January 18, 2007, 01:03:16 PM
Hallejuliah!!!
Finally a midisize Mercedes-Benz model with some styling flair. Danke Dr. Zetsche.
Danke Wimmer for the pics. :ohyeah:
This is the best looking Mercedes midsizer since the classic 190E W201. The older C-Class models were so...dull to look at. I really like the interior on the W204 - a huge improvement over the bland W203. The steering wheel is not as ugly as the early pics suggested. I really like the 007 sat/nav screen.
I much prefer the star on the grille. I better save up some dough to buy the C320 CDi Avantgarde! :lol:
Anytime. :ohyeah:
Don't forget to thank Peter Pfeiffer and his design team. :praise:
Quote from: cawimmer430 on January 18, 2007, 01:04:52 PM
Anytime. :ohyeah:
Don't forget to thank Peter Pfeiffer and his design team. :praise:
Isn't he the responsible for the R-Class?
Don't go yet wimmer!
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/18/world-premier-of-the-new-2008-mercedes-benz-c-class/
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Me like. It's very, very pretty. Very pretty.
>> C-Class Wagon << (http://www.cwwcardesign.com/cars/mercedes_c-class_s204.html)
Calm down Wimmer. It's just a C class. :evildude:
I like it, but it's not so very wicked IMO. Still doesn't look half as nice as a 3 series IMO... Well, okay the Avantgarde is pretty damn nice, but I don't like the interior and the proportions aren't so great...
Quote from: M_power on January 18, 2007, 03:33:00 PM
Calm down Wimmer. It's just a C class. :evildude:
Man if he is already this excited with the mere C-Class, can you imagine his reaction when he see the C63 AMG?
Quote from: pommes-t on January 18, 2007, 04:46:49 PM
I like it, but it's not so very wicked IMO. Still doesn't look half as nice as a 3 series IMO... Well, okay the Avantgarde is pretty damn nice, but I don't like the interior and the proportions aren't so great...
I second that.
Quote from: Andaluz on January 18, 2007, 05:10:47 PM
Man if he is already this excited with the mere C-Class, can you imagine his reaction when he see the C63 AMG?
were talking about wimmer here, the ony thing that makes him more excited is if they offer a lower end engine option.
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I like it.? Pretty neat to have both a classic and sport version front designs.? ?:ohyeah:
C class interior > S class interior.
3er>C-Klasse :devil:
I like a lot. I hope it brings Mercedes a lot of success.
Well the headlights remind me of an Opel Astra, but the exterior's pretty nice.
The interior's layout is very... average.
Quote from: ro51092 on January 18, 2007, 07:04:37 PM
3er>C-Klasse :devil:
I like a lot. I hope it brings Mercedes a lot of success.
3er>C-Klasse>A4 :devil:
Bike>Skateboard>Feet>Piece of shit>Exploder
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Quote from: ro51092 on January 18, 2007, 07:10:06 PM
Bike>Skateboard>Feet>Piece of shit>Exploder
:devil: :devil:
:rolleyes:
Bike>Scooter>Segway>Bicycle>Skateboard>Feet>Pogo-Stick>Chevrolet Matiz
Quote from: Andaluz on January 18, 2007, 08:20:02 PM
Bike>Scooter>Segway>Bicycle>Skateboard>Feet>Pogo-Stick>Chevrolet Matiz
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If it were a Toyota everyone would be ragging on it. I'm not impressed. The exterior is OK but the front has a weird shape to it. The trunk lid is too short and the interior looks blah. The steering wheel is just plain disgusting. I would take a BMW, Audi, Cadillac or Infiniti over this car. I'm not saying it's horrible or anything but it's certainly not what I expected.
Quote from: Catman on January 18, 2007, 08:52:59 PM
If it were a Toyota everyone would be ragging on it.? I'm not impressed.? The exterior is OK but the front has a weird shape to it.? The trunk lid is too short and the interior looks blah.? The steering wheel is just plain disgusting.? I would take a BMW, Audi, Cadillac or Infiniti over this car.? I'm not saying it's horrible or anything but it's certainly not what I expected.
I'm in agreement with Catman here.
The exterior certainly isn't bad, but compared to some of its competition it's just plain boring. I don't like the front end, in particular. The interior is a bigger letdown, as Mercedes has been doing pretty well in that area lately. It looks nice enough, but that usually doesn't cut it in this market segment (one of the most competitive around).
I thought M-B would do more. :huh:
I like it a lot. It would be a difficult choice between a C320 CDI and a C280, since the C350, according to the press release, won't come with the 6 speed. I think that initially I would probably be interested in the CDI though, it's nearly as fast as the C280, has a massive amount more torque, and I am sure gets a lot better fuel economy, which is becoming more important now.
Quote from: Andaluz on January 18, 2007, 08:20:02 PM
Bike>Scooter>Segway>Bicycle>Skateboard>Feet>Pogo-Stick>Avensis>Chevrolet Matiz
Quote from: Andaluz on January 18, 2007, 01:08:35 PM
Isn't he the responsible for the R-Class?
They outsourced Chris Bangle for that one. :devil:
Quote from: gasoline on January 18, 2007, 01:46:45 PM
Don't go yet wimmer!
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/18/world-premier-of-the-new-2008-mercedes-benz-c-class/
(http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/1962/2008cclassimg5546cb9.jpg)
Me like. It's very, very pretty. Very pretty.
THANKS! :ohyeah:
I'm loving this car, I really am. :rockon:
Quote from: CWW on January 18, 2007, 02:58:47 PM
>> C-Class Wagon << (http://www.cwwcardesign.com/cars/mercedes_c-class_s204.html)
QUALITY JOB, ANDRE! :ohyeah:
Quote from: M_power on January 18, 2007, 03:33:00 PM
Calm down Wimmer. It's just a C class. :evildude:
This C-Class is really special. I have a really good feeling about it. :rockon:
Quote from: CosmicSaab on January 18, 2007, 10:12:53 PM
I like it a lot. It would be a difficult choice between a C320 CDI and a C280, since the C350, according to the press release, won't come with the 6 speed. I think that initially I would probably be interested in the CDI though, it's nearly as fast as the C280, has a massive amount more torque, and I am sure gets a lot better fuel economy, which is becoming more important now.
Yep, no more 6-speed MT for the C350 because of poor sales. Most C350 buyers choose the automatic anyway, so there was no incentive to offer a manual transmission on a car nobody buys with a manual. Source: Autozeitung.de.
GOT HOLD OF MY W204 C-CLASS BROCHURE JUST NOW!
(http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/11/w204bdq6.jpg)
TECHNICAL DATA / PERFORMANCE FOR ENGINES
(http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/491/w204engineseb9.jpg)
Well, after decades of thinking I was fluent in German, I now know I know none.
Quote from: Raza on January 19, 2007, 04:22:57 AM
Well, after decades of thinking I was fluent in German, I now know I know none.
:lol:
Try this...(http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/3581/w204explaka1.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
Quote from: cawimmer430 on January 19, 2007, 03:28:38 AM
Yep, no more 6-speed MT for the C350 because of poor sales. Most C350 buyers choose the automatic anyway, so there was no incentive to offer a manual transmission on a car nobody buys with a manual. Source: Autozeitung.de.
That's such bullshit and circular logic. They offer the 6 speed, but because no one thinks that it will sell, no one stocks it, therefore sales are poor. Since sales are poor, they don't sell it anymore.
Quote from: Raza on January 19, 2007, 04:31:49 AM
Since sales are poor, they don't sell it anymore.
This says it all.
Quote from: cawimmer430 on January 19, 2007, 04:37:29 AM
This says it all.
That's the same logic Toyota uses. "We graced them with a sports car, why should we advertise it? Let's just kill it."
The sales are poor because they didn't
try to sell it.
Quote from: Raza on January 19, 2007, 04:54:00 AM
That's the same logic Toyota uses. "We graced them with a sports car, why should we advertise it? Let's just kill it."
The sales are poor because they didn't try to sell it.
With Mercedes', people don't buy them because of their manual transmissions. Most Benz buyers will care about the image, ride etc. and those that do care about some sportiness won't be to picky about whether it's an M/T or A/T. Also, a higher end Mercedes with a manual will have shitty resale value.
Quote from: cawimmer430 on January 19, 2007, 04:58:12 AM
With Mercedes', people don't buy them because of their manual transmissions. Most Benz buyers will care about the image, ride etc. and those that do care about some sportiness won't be to picky about whether it's an M/T or A/T. Also, a higher end Mercedes with a manual will have shitty resale value.
The point of something like that isn't to sell to the same market base; it's to bring in new buyers. The C350 6 speed was praised (hell, even the C230K 6 speed with the old, rubbery stick beat the 9-3 and TSX in a comparison I read) quite a bit by mag reviews, but the dealerships were too conservative to stock them. And since when is the C class a higher end Mercedes, even with the top V6? The fact is that they had a good looking, properly sized, and properly competent 3 box sport sedan, and they killed it due to poor selling strategy.
Coup? needed?
(http://www.cwwcardesign.com/cars/pics/mercedes_w204_coupe.jpg)
hey CWW that looks really sharp, but isn't that what the CLK would be?
if so, then may I suggest a sleeker greenhouse (a la CLS-class)
Wow... CWW that looks exactly like how the next CLK should look... except it should be a little sleeker. IMO the roofline looks a bit pointy. Awesome nevertheless :ohyeah:
The CLK has always had E-Class styling cues, not C-Class.
Quote from: Raza on January 19, 2007, 05:07:53 AM
The point of something like that isn't to sell to the same market base; it's to bring in new buyers. The C350 6 speed was praised (hell, even the C230K 6 speed with the old, rubbery stick beat the 9-3 and TSX in a comparison I read) quite a bit by mag reviews, but the dealerships were too conservative to stock them. And since when is the C class a higher end Mercedes, even with the top V6? The fact is that they had a good looking, properly sized, and properly competent 3 box sport sedan, and they killed it due to poor selling strategy.
I do agree that MB should have kept the 6-speed C350 on the W204, even if it meant making a loss on it. Attracting new potential buyers is worth it, I guess. You can bet, however, that MB did their market research and maybe they found out that the majority of buyers who look at the C350 don't care about the manual. It's like the Lexus IS350. These guys know that most IS350 buyers will be people who just want a nice premium car and don't really care about the sporting aspect. The fact that the IS350 is hyped up as a 3-Series killer etc. is just pure marketing bullshit. Bottom line, 9/10 Lexus IS350 buyers are happy with the auto, that's good enough for Lexus. I suppose it is the same deal here with MB.
Quote from: CWW on January 20, 2007, 07:05:58 AM
Coup? needed?
(http://www.cwwcardesign.com/cars/pics/mercedes_w204_coupe.jpg)
Jesus H. Christ!!! :rockon: :rockon: :rockon:
Quote from: CWW on January 20, 2007, 07:05:58 AM
Coup? needed?
(http://www.cwwcardesign.com/cars/pics/mercedes_w204_coupe.jpg)
Looks like a mini-CL
I like this car, its classy.
not as good as the 3er
:lol:
:praise:
I like the sunroof:
(http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/6139/739492380as.jpg)
Quote from: gasoline on January 20, 2007, 09:20:14 PM
I like the sunroof:
(http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/6139/739492380as.jpg)
Panorama roof, not sunroof. :ohyeah:
I'm going to go out on a very big limb here, in light of my recent comments, and say I'd rather a CTS at this point.
Quote from: omicron on January 21, 2007, 04:08:32 AM
I'm going to go out on a very big limb here, in light of my recent comments, and say I'd rather a CTS at this point.
:mask: :mask: :mask:
Quote from: cawimmer430 on January 21, 2007, 04:13:47 AM
:mask: :mask: :mask:
:lol:
Both cars have obviously been influenced by the trends towards high waistlines, high bonnets and tall front ends that I assume are the result of passive safety legislation. The CTS flaunts it; the C-Class tries to hide it, but it doesn't quite work for me. The front grille, for example, stands almost bolt upright, which contrasts with the flowing design between the A and C-pillars. It works from the straight-on front view but less so from any other angle. I could be unkind and say they stuck new front and rear ends on an old passenger compartment (from the outside).
Quote from: omicron on January 21, 2007, 04:32:56 AM
:lol:
Both cars have obviously been influenced by the trends towards high waistlines, high bonnets and tall front ends that I assume are the result of passive safety legislation. The CTS flaunts it; the C-Class tries to hide it, but it doesn't quite work for me. The front grille, for example, stands almost bolt upright, which contrasts with the flowing design between the A and C-pillars. It works from the straight-on front view but less so from any other angle. I could be unkind and say they stuck new front and rear ends on an old passenger compartment (from the outside).
Nice explanation. What you drive is your choice. I on the one hand can't wait to try this thing. :praise:
Quote from: cawimmer430 on January 21, 2007, 04:47:56 AM
Nice explanation. What you drive is your choice. I on the one hand can't wait to try this thing. :praise:
If I come across a C63 AMG lurking about in my bedroom tomorrow, you can have it :praise:
Quote from: omicron on January 21, 2007, 04:50:46 AM
If I come across a C63 AMG lurking about in my bedroom tomorrow, you can have it :praise:
:praise:
Quote from: ifcar on January 20, 2007, 10:42:11 AM
The CLK has always had E-Class styling cues, not C-Class.
Front end on the current one has C-class written all over it. The rear, though, I'll give to you.
Quote from: cawimmer430 on January 21, 2007, 03:29:41 AM
Panorama roof, not sunroof. :ohyeah:
:rolleyes: You're like my cousin, who's a car designer. I once asked him about one of his friends "Isn't that the chap with the Range Rover?"
My cousin replies back with "Not the Range Rover *smacks me on the head*... the Range Rover 4.6 HSE."
:rolleyes: It's a sunroof to me :P... what would you call Pontiac's panel roof?
Quote from: TheIntrepid on January 21, 2007, 07:22:07 AM
:rolleyes: You're like my cousin, who's a car designer. I once asked him about one of his friends "Isn't that the chap with the Range Rover?"
My cousin replies back with "Not the Range Rover *smacks me on the head*... the Range Rover 4.6 HSE."
:rolleyes: It's a sunroof to me :P... what would you call Pontiac's panel roof?
:praise:
I like this car a whole lot every time I see it.
I reallly wish the C-Class were more common around here:
(http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/5636/carscoopcclass364im.jpg)
Quote from: cawimmer430 on January 21, 2007, 04:13:47 AM
:mask: :mask: :mask:
sorry Wim, but I'm going to have to agree with omicron :evildude: ;)
Quote from: Vinsanity on January 21, 2007, 10:29:47 AM
sorry Wim, but I'm going to have to agree with omicron :evildude: ;)
Me too.
Me three. The C-Class just isn't doing it for me.
Me 4th, the C is very average and very boring, the CTS is bold. I want one.
It is a good looking car with some nice features but I do not think it will trap to many 3er and A4 buyers. especially with Audi lighting it's next firework in the fall.
Quote from: ifcar on January 20, 2007, 10:42:11 AM
The CLK has always had E-Class styling cues, not C-Class.
The current one looks more C-Class than E-Class to me.
In fact, didn't one of the AMG C-Classes (C55 I think) actually have the nose from the CLK? Wimmer?
Quote from: gasoline on January 18, 2007, 01:46:45 PM
Don't go yet wimmer!
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/18/world-premier-of-the-new-2008-mercedes-benz-c-class/
(http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/1962/2008cclassimg5546cb9.jpg)
Me like. It's very, very pretty. Very pretty.
The New C-Class. The first Mercedes you can park on water.
Quote from: nickdrinkwater on January 22, 2007, 12:13:52 PM
The current one looks more C-Class than E-Class to me.
In fact, didn't one of the AMG C-Classes (C55 I think) actually have the nose from the CLK? Wimmer?
Yeah, the current one has the CLK nose
(http://img.drive.com.au/drive_images/Editorial/2004/12/17/17power_leadimage.jpg)
(http://www.edge-inc.net/images/cars/clk55_06_H.jpg)
:cheers:
Quote from: nickdrinkwater on January 22, 2007, 12:13:52 PM
The current one looks more C-Class than E-Class to me.
In fact, didn't one of the AMG C-Classes (C55 I think) actually have the nose from the CLK? Wimmer?
The C55 AMG had the nose from the C209 CLK because the V8 wouldn't fit into the standard W203 body shell. :ohyeah:
I don't see what's make the Cadillac CTS so special. I think the last generation looked much better. From the pictures, this thing looks chubby and I find it BORING looking. What makes the W204 C-Class so special to me is the breath of fresh air in the design. The old W203 was getting old and rather dull, the new C-Class is sexy, stylish, dynamic and elegant looking all in one.
Here, a comparison shot of the C-Class in Avantgarde and Elegance trim and the Cadillac CTS from generally the same 3/4 higher up position. CTS looks boring to me.
(http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/3925/cademrc7vr.jpg)
From that view I think i like the look of the C-class better. From the other views i've seen I like the CTS better. You never look at a car from that angle though...
Quote from: JYODER240 on January 23, 2007, 10:10:44 AM
From that view I think i like the look of the C-class better. From the other views i've seen I like the CTS better. You never look at a car from that angle though...
Maybe I like the C-Class so much because I see a design connection to the old 190-Series. It's almost like the new C-Class is a retro style version of the 190.(http://photo.netcarshow.com/Mercedes-Benz-190E_1984_photo_06.jpg)
(http://photo.netcarshow.com/Mercedes-Benz-C-Class_2008_photo_03.jpg)
I don't see the resemblance. I always thought that the 190E, 300E, etc were all E-Classes and not C. :huh:
Quote from: TheIntrepid on January 23, 2007, 10:40:13 AM
I don't see the resemblance. I always thought that the 190E, 300E, etc were all E-Classes and not C. :huh:
There is a huge resemblance. Only a true MB enthusiast can see it. :praise:
Quote from: cawimmer430 on January 23, 2007, 10:44:12 AM
There is a huge resemblance. Only a true MB enthusiast troll/whore can see it. :praise:
Fixed for accuracy.
I'll buy the coup? with the regular grill:
(http://www.cwwcardesign.com/cars/pics/mercedes_w204_coupe2.jpg)
I just read that the C is expected to base at "under $39,000"!
WTF?! 39k for a base C-Class?! Hell no!
Quote from: CosmicSaab on January 28, 2007, 09:50:40 PM
I just read that the C is expected to base at "under $39,000"!
WTF?! 39k for a base C-Class?! Hell no!
That is a lot.
Quote from: CosmicSaab on January 28, 2007, 09:50:40 PM
I just read that the C is expected to base at "under $39,000"!
WTF?! 39k for a base C-Class?! Hell no!
Those are European prices for a C180 Kompressor.
Quote from: cawimmer430 on January 29, 2007, 06:24:32 AM
Those are European prices for a C180 Kompressor.
That's still a fucking lot!
Quote from: nickdrinkwater on January 29, 2007, 11:34:30 AM
That's still a fucking lot!
Welcome to Europe. :lol:
It's worse in the UK though. :devil:
Quote from: cawimmer430 on January 18, 2007, 12:16:59 PM
(http://www.emercedesbenz.com/Images/Jan07/18_Its_Official_2008_Mercedes_Benz_C_Class/111625906a4953.jpg)
Hey, what's the grille from the soon-to-be-replaced Cadillac CTS doing on the new C-Class? Nah, just kidding. I do like the new C-Class and I can see a very clear influence from the old Mercedes 190. I'm glad to see that European pedestrian impact legislation hasn't ruined the classic style of a Mercedes. The designers of the Peugeot 407 claimed these new rules were the reason why they had to make the 407's front end so ugly. After seeing the new C-Class, it looks like Peugeot will have to find a new excuse for the 407's gargantuan schnozz!
Madman of the People
Quote from: Madman on February 04, 2007, 07:10:27 AM
Hey, what's the grille from the soon-to-be-replaced Cadillac CTS doing on the new C-Class? Nah, just kidding. I do like the new C-Class and I can see a very clear influence from the old Mercedes 190. I'm glad to see that European pedestrian impact legislation hasn't ruined the classic style of a Mercedes. The designers of the Peugeot 407 claimed these new rules were the reason why they had to make the 407's front end so ugly. After seeing the new C-Class, it looks like Peugeot will have to find a new excuse for the 407's gargantuan schnozz!
Madman of the People
That is a pathetic claim seeing as it has just about the longest overhang (proportionally at least) of any car on the market today. I think they were just looking for excuses.
It's a shame because the 406 was a great looking car, and the 407 would be too if it wasn't for that front. I like the wagon, too.