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Title: Lol...
Post by: VTEC_Inside on February 12, 2007, 04:07:34 PM
Couldn't think of a better title, sorry.

So I'm driving along, in the left hand lane, traffic is pretty dense, so lane choice was kinda irrelevant.

Traffic starts to clear and the right lane opens up. I'm behind two pickups in the left lane, so I signal to the right and speed up a bit (well a little more than a bit, but nothing drastic)  to try and get around them. Wasn't going to happen so I braked back down to normal speed never comming close to the vehicle in front of me in the right lane or even motioning to go left.

Eventually I had to get to the left lane again to make an upcomming turn, so I throw my signal on as I am ever so slightly in front of the first truck I was behind and its kinda tight. I give it a sec and he's left room so I make the lane change.

Now I'm in the right of two lanes that will be making a left turn. The pickup that just let me in has gone to the left most lane AGAIN and has stopped more or less beside me with his window down. So I roll my window down to here what this guy has to say.

He starts off saying that I was "swerving quite a bit back there". Ok, I made one lane change in the last 4min, but whatever, and that he "has a baby in the back" and that I should "calm down", or something to that effect. All the while being pretty polite.

I replied, "well if you are concerned for your baby shouldn't you be driving along in the right lane such that you don't hold up traffic?". Here is where it gets funny, his reply "GO FUCK YOURSELF!", LMAO!! From so calm to so angry in a split second. I replied "I'll try that when I get home", but I don't think he heard me.
Title: Re: Lol...
Post by: TheIntrepid on February 12, 2007, 04:14:11 PM
I thought we Ontarians were more polite than that.
Title: Re: Lol...
Post by: 93JC on February 12, 2007, 04:19:43 PM
Quote from: TheIntrepid on February 12, 2007, 04:14:11 PM
I thought we Ontarians were more polite than that.

Meh. Us Albertans think you Ontarians are all assholes. :lol: :P
Title: Re: Lol...
Post by: TheIntrepid on February 12, 2007, 04:29:19 PM
Quote from: 93JC on February 12, 2007, 04:19:43 PM
Meh. Us Albertans think you Ontarians are all assholes. :lol: :P

:cheers:

I can be an ass on the road if I'm late or angry.
Title: Re: Lol...
Post by: ifcar on February 12, 2007, 04:45:32 PM
If he's being polite, you should be polite. "I'm sorry, I'll be more careful in the future." Or even "I'm sorry you feel that way, but I feel I was driving safely." Never be rude to a stranger, you never know what you're dealing with.
Title: Re: Lol...
Post by: VTEC_Inside on February 12, 2007, 04:58:58 PM
Quote from: ifcar on February 12, 2007, 04:45:32 PM
If he's being polite, you should be polite. "I'm sorry, I'll be more careful in the future." Or even "I'm sorry you feel that way, but I feel I was driving safely." Never be rude to a stranger, you never know what you're dealing with.

Thats the thing. I wasn't being a dick about it when I replied. I just suggested politely that he should probably be driving in the right lane if hes is in fact that concerned.
Title: Re: Lol...
Post by: ifcar on February 12, 2007, 05:02:15 PM
Never critique a stranger's habits to his face.
Title: Re: Lol...
Post by: VTEC_Inside on February 12, 2007, 05:17:57 PM
Quote from: ifcar on February 12, 2007, 05:02:15 PM
Never critique a stranger's habits to his face.

I suppose thats good advice. BUT, when its suggested that I was driving in a reckless manner by someone hogging the left lane, I feel pretty good about having reacted as calmly as I did.
Title: Re: Lol...
Post by: GoCougs on February 12, 2007, 05:33:09 PM
As hard as it is, the best reaction is no reaction. Ifcar is correct, you never know what you'll attract.

Anyone who makes the effort to make contact because of a driving situation on the road (barring an accident or some such) is looking for a reaction. Giving them one feeds the fire which can get out of control in a hurry.
Title: Re: Lol...
Post by: Minpin on February 12, 2007, 06:42:27 PM
Quote from: GoCougs on February 12, 2007, 05:33:09 PM
As hard as it is, the best reaction is no reaction. Ifcar is correct, you never know what you'll attract.

Anyone who makes the effort to make contact because of a driving situation on the road (barring an accident or some such) is looking for a reaction. Giving them one feeds the fire which can get out of control in a hurry.

So? I find it pretty hilarious when people do shit like this. Its entertaining to piss them off.  :P
Title: Re: Lol...
Post by: ifcar on February 12, 2007, 06:43:20 PM
Quote from: Minpin on February 12, 2007, 06:42:27 PM
So? I find it pretty hilarious when people do shit like this. Its entertaining to piss them off.  :P

Until you piss off someone with a gun.
Title: Re: Lol...
Post by: Minpin on February 12, 2007, 06:47:21 PM
Quote from: ifcar on February 12, 2007, 06:43:20 PM
Until you piss off someone with a gun.

Eh, they would miss anyways.  :praise: I'm just joking around, i would never provoke someone  :evildude:. Just ranting because left lane hoggers piss me off.
Title: Re: Lol...
Post by: nickdrinkwater on February 12, 2007, 07:13:21 PM
I would have told him to fuck off as well, but people don't generally carry guns in this country.
Title: Re: Lol...
Post by: J86 on February 12, 2007, 07:19:07 PM
I may have told him to bugger off, but that's because Im young and stupid. :lol:
Title: Re: Lol...
Post by: TheIntrepid on February 12, 2007, 08:04:35 PM
I may do moronic things at times but even I know better than to provoke or be rude to a stranger. You never know who'd have a gun. Yesterday a guy in a 3.2TL didn't go at a green, so I flickered the lights a bit then tapped the horn lightly. It was only when he gave me the finger through the window that I saw he was black and pissed. I got scared.
Title: Re: Lol...
Post by: Raghavan on February 12, 2007, 08:07:28 PM
Quote from: TheIntrepid on February 12, 2007, 08:04:35 PM
I may do moronic things at times but even I know better than to provoke or be rude to a stranger. You never know who'd have a gun. Yesterday a guy in a 3.2TL didn't go at a green, so I flickered the lights a bit then tapped the horn lightly. It was only when he gave me the finger through the window that I saw he was black and pissed. I got scared.
What does him being black have to do with anything? Do black people scare you? :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Lol...
Post by: TheIntrepid on February 12, 2007, 08:08:35 PM
When they are angry, they give me the finger and are dressed like gangsters yes.
Title: Re: Lol...
Post by: Raghavan on February 12, 2007, 08:11:48 PM
Well, if they are dressed like gangsters, they can be white, black, mexican, whatever, i'll still be scared.
Though if it were an indian guy dressed up like a gangster, i'd be laughing my ass off all day. :lol:
BTW, gangsters can afford 3.2TL's?
Title: Re: Lol...
Post by: 93JC on February 12, 2007, 08:29:50 PM
Quote from: ifcar on February 12, 2007, 06:43:20 PM
Until you piss off someone with a gun.

That's preposterous. Someone with a gun... in Canada?

:nutty:
Title: Re: Lol...
Post by: TurboDan on February 13, 2007, 03:43:23 PM
I don't think I've ever actually rolled down my window to talk/yell to another driver while driving. 

There was only one time I ever yelled at someone out a window:  One time, I was driving on a small-town road near the beach.  The road was semi-busy because it was the summer, and there was an middle aged guy attempting to cross the street in the middle of traffic.  Obviously, he had no right of way, and was basically just trying to walk out in the middle of the road because he was too lazy to walk a block to a traffic light.  He proceeded to yell "SLOW DOWN" and rant and rave at every car that went by.  Since it was a 25MPH road, you could hear the guy yell at everyone.  I rolled down my window and told him "that's what crosswalks are for you idiot" or something like that.

Once, someone rolled down their window on a highway to yell something at me after I beeped my horn at them after they cut me off while changing lanes.  I didn't roll down my window.  My finger did the talking.
Title: Re: Lol...
Post by: Raza on February 13, 2007, 04:13:14 PM
Quote from: 93JC on February 12, 2007, 08:29:50 PM
That's preposterous. Someone with a gun... in Canada?

:nutty:

Isn't it law that all Canadians have to carry a rifle to fend off polar bear attacks?
Title: Re: Lol...
Post by: GoCougs on February 13, 2007, 04:17:15 PM
I've found through trial and error that it's just not worth the hassle to respond or to initiate any contact whatsoever with other drivers, save for using the horn to prevent an accident.

I've had a few instances where people have followed me to my destination, and either gave me the stare-down, or left a not-so-nice note on my windshield. It's simply not worth the hassle, or worth the 1 in a 1000 chance of locking horns with a psycho.

Further, I don't understand this sudden fasination with firearms and traffic confrontations. I have a concealed pistol license, and fail to see the connection for it and a prediliction for initiating violent traffic confrontations.



Title: Re: Lol...
Post by: 93JC on February 13, 2007, 04:42:40 PM
Quote from: Raza ?link=topic=7710.msg363364#msg363364 date=1171408394
Isn't it law that all Canadians have to carry a rifle to fend off polar bear attacks?

Why would we need guns to fend off bears?

Again, preposterous: we could kill bears with our own hands. Why do you think we kicked your ass in 1812?
Title: Re: Lol...
Post by: J86 on February 13, 2007, 04:47:23 PM
Quote from: 93JC on February 13, 2007, 04:42:40 PM
Why would we need guns to fend off bears?

Again, preposterous: we could kill bears with our own hands. Why do you think we kicked your ass in 1812?

You keep bringing up 1812, let it go dude, or do you want John Candy to invade you again?
Title: Re: Lol...
Post by: TheIntrepid on February 13, 2007, 06:52:08 PM
Quote from: J86 on February 13, 2007, 04:47:23 PM
You keep bringing up 1812, let it go dude, or do you want John Candy to invade you again?

:lol:
Title: Re: Lol...
Post by: 93JC on February 13, 2007, 07:49:25 PM
John Candy?

John Candy was a covert Canadian agent, like most of the people we send down there.
Title: Re: Lol...
Post by: dsred on February 14, 2007, 03:57:45 PM
Quote from: ifcar on February 12, 2007, 05:02:15 PM
Never critique a stranger's habits to his face.

Huh? Didn't the "other guy" violate this "rule" first? He's lucky I wasn't there...
Title: Re: Lol...
Post by: dsred on February 14, 2007, 03:59:12 PM
Quote from: ifcar on February 12, 2007, 06:43:20 PM
Until you piss off someone with a gun.

How do they know I don't have a gun?
Title: Re: Lol...
Post by: dsred on February 14, 2007, 04:04:18 PM
Quote from: GoCougs on February 13, 2007, 04:17:15 PM


I've had a few instances where people have followed me to my destination, and either gave me the stare-down, or left a not-so-nice note on my windshield. It's simply not worth the hassle, or worth the 1 in a 1000 chance of locking horns with a psycho.


If anyone EVER follows me to my "destination" then it's on...basically you have to confront them because generally speaking they're cowards who will come back and do something to your car later. I confront them, let them know why, jot down their license number and tell them if they don't get lost NOW or if something happens to my car I'll be calling the Police.
Title: Re: Lol...
Post by: Rupert on February 14, 2007, 08:05:23 PM
Quote from: TheIntrepid on February 12, 2007, 08:04:35 PM
I may do moronic things at times but even I know better than to provoke or be rude to a stranger. You never know who'd have a gun. Yesterday a guy in a 3.2TL didn't go at a green, so I flickered the lights a bit then tapped the horn lightly. It was only when he gave me the finger through the window that I saw he was black and pissed. I got scared.

Oh no! Black people! <shifty eyes>
Title: Re: Lol...
Post by: GoCougs on February 14, 2007, 09:54:01 PM
Quote from: dsred on February 14, 2007, 04:04:18 PM
If anyone EVER follows me to my "destination" then it's on...basically you have to confront them because generally speaking they're cowards who will come back and do something to your car later. I confront them, let them know why, jot down their license number and tell them if they don't get lost NOW or if something happens to my car I'll be calling the Police.

Good luck with that (you'll need it).
Title: Re: Lol...
Post by: TurboDan on February 14, 2007, 10:48:15 PM
Quote from: 93JC on February 13, 2007, 07:49:25 PM
John Candy?

John Candy was a covert Canadian agent, like most of the people we send down there.

And you see how John Candy turned out.   :devil:
Title: Re: Lol...
Post by: TheIntrepid on February 15, 2007, 08:06:36 AM
:lol:

John Candy is a stereotypical American... overweight and dumb.
Title: Re: Lol...
Post by: SJ_GTI on February 15, 2007, 08:28:43 AM
I drive in heavy traffic all the time (~35-45 minutes for a 10 mile commute to work, plus I go to school in Center City Philly), so it doesn't bother me. But sometimes I can see people in their cars getting upset.

A couple of days ago some guy (in a previous gen TL-S) got pissed at me for...something, not really sure what...and just started yelling and screaming and pointing. I just lost it.

I started laughing hysterically. It never ceases to amaze me how childish people act when they get behind the wheel of a car. It has always seemed to me that people immediately throw out all reasonbility and sense of politeness when they drive. This guy was off the charts though. Could you imagine someone acting like that outside of traffic? They would be locked in a mental institution (for the good of society and themselves).

Good stuff.  :lol:
Title: Re: Lol...
Post by: Raza on February 15, 2007, 08:31:16 AM
I angrily pass, but that's about it.  Whenever I get the finger, it cracks me up as well. 
Title: Re: Lol...
Post by: Rupert on February 15, 2007, 09:57:23 AM
Quote from: TheIntrepid on February 15, 2007, 08:06:36 AM
:lol:

John Candy is a stereotypical American... overweight and dumb.

John Candy was Canadian. I don't think he was especially dumb, either.
Title: Re: Lol...
Post by: 93JC on February 15, 2007, 11:09:48 AM
Quote from: TurboDan on February 14, 2007, 10:48:15 PM
And you see how John Candy turned out.? ?:devil:

He died a true patriot.
Title: Re: Lol...
Post by: 93JC on February 15, 2007, 11:10:24 AM
Quote from: TheIntrepid on February 15, 2007, 08:06:36 AM
:lol:

John Candy is a stereotypical American... overweight and dumb.

He was Canadian, tool!

Sheesh, talk about dumb... :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Lol...
Post by: SVT666 on February 15, 2007, 03:34:30 PM
Quote from: 93JC on February 13, 2007, 04:42:40 PM
Why would we need guns to fend off bears?

Again, preposterous: we could kill bears with our own hands.
We have to kill a bear with our bare hands when we turn 12.  It's our passage to manhood.
Title: Re: Lol...
Post by: 93JC on February 15, 2007, 04:50:33 PM
Exactly.

Conversely, so do the womenfolk. But just a black bear, not grizzlies or polar bears like the men have to.
Title: Re: Lol...
Post by: TheIntrepid on February 15, 2007, 05:16:01 PM
Quote from: Psilos on February 15, 2007, 09:57:23 AM
John Candy was Canadian. I don't think he was especially dumb, either.

I'm not that slow. I know he's Canadian... I was referring to the fact that he fits the typical American stereotype.

Title: Re: Lol...
Post by: JWC on February 17, 2007, 04:41:13 PM
I wouldn't see where a "left lane" rule applies here.  You yourself had to jump into the left lane to make a turn.  It doesn't sound like he's hogging the left lane, but driving on a city roadway or a four-lane secondary road. 

If your turn is coming up within four minutes and you had to "jump" back into the left lane to make your turn, I'd say that your impatience to save 15-20 seconds is telling more about you here than the other driver. 

Even you said lane choice is irrevelant, why criticize his choice?
Title: Re: Lol...
Post by: JWC on February 17, 2007, 04:45:18 PM
....and why do Canadians always bring up the War of 1812?  Is that the last victory you guys ever had....basically sending the British to capture Washington...only to retreat later? 

Yeah, 190 years later and we Americans are still shaking in our boots afraid you'll send the Brits back.

Title: Re: Lol...
Post by: 93JC on February 17, 2007, 05:28:19 PM
Quote from: JWC on February 17, 2007, 04:45:18 PM
....and why do Canadians always bring up the War of 1812?  ... basically sending the British to capture Washington...only to retreat later?

"Basically sending the British to capture Washington"?

I'm shocked at your ignorance. The US tried to conquer the Canadas, and lost. It was series of important events in Canadian history: had the US won I'd most likely be sitting in US territory right now. Had the war never happened it's likely Canadian confederation would not have happened, or at least not as soon as it did, which would have had many repercussions throughout the British Empire.

QuoteIs that the last victory you guys ever had.....

On the contrary; 192 years later we're still batting 1.000 :lol: :P
Title: Re: Lol...
Post by: JWC on February 17, 2007, 05:44:56 PM
Actually, I'd still debate that.  The war was between the US and Britian.  You guys were just a trophy that never materialized, but I would hesitate to declare it a "Canadian victory".  Britain provided the war machinery and the intelligence, as well as a majority of troops. 

In reality, there has never been a Canadian victory....just Canada supporting another's Army. ;)

Title: Re: Lol...
Post by: 93JC on February 17, 2007, 05:52:02 PM
Okay. If a war victory must be absolutely unilateral then the USA has never won a war either.

Except the US Civil War, if that counts. Otherwise y'all are batting .000 on your own (1812, Vietnam).
Title: Re: Lol...
Post by: JWC on February 17, 2007, 05:55:06 PM
Quote from: 93JC on February 17, 2007, 05:52:02 PM
Okay. If a war victory must be absolutely unilateral then the USA has never won a war either.

Except the US Civil War, if that counts. Otherwise y'all are batting .000 on your own (1812, Vietnam).

I said a victory, didn't say anything about winning a war.  Completely different subject.
Title: Re: Lol...
Post by: JWC on February 17, 2007, 05:56:56 PM
Besides, you were not even a "real" country until what....1860 something.  1867??
Title: Re: Lol...
Post by: 93JC on February 17, 2007, 06:05:46 PM
Quote from: JWC on February 17, 2007, 05:55:06 PM
I said a victory, didn't say anything about winning a war.  Completely different subject.

So what did you mean?
Title: Re: Lol...
Post by: JWC on February 17, 2007, 06:08:16 PM
I'll repeat the first post...


why do Canadians always bring up the War of 1812?  Is that the last victory you guys ever had....basically sending the British to capture Washington...only to retreat later?


I never said either lost or won the war.  By historical accounts, it was a stalemate.
Title: Re: Lol...
Post by: JWC on February 17, 2007, 06:11:00 PM
We can, jokingly I assume, to continue to debate how many victories there were between the two, but....


at the time, the British still owned you. :lol:
Title: Re: Lol...
Post by: 93JC on February 17, 2007, 06:24:47 PM
Quote from: JWC on February 17, 2007, 06:08:16 PM
I'll repeat the first post...

why do Canadians always bring up the War of 1812?  Is that the last victory you guys ever had....basically sending the British to capture Washington...only to retreat later?

I never said either lost or won the war.  By historical accounts, it was a stalemate.

Then our last one was the Battle of Panjwaii (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Panjwaii).
Title: Re: Lol...
Post by: 93JC on February 17, 2007, 06:30:39 PM
Quote from: JWC on February 17, 2007, 06:11:00 PM
We can, jokingly I assume, to continue to debate how many victories there were between the two, but....


at the time, the British still owned you. :lol:

True. But then it's just as easy for me to say anything that happened in the 13 Colonies prior to July 4th, 1776 was British history. ;)
Title: Re: Lol...
Post by: JWC on February 17, 2007, 06:46:10 PM
Quote from: 93JC on February 17, 2007, 06:30:39 PM
True. But then it's just as easy for me to say anything that happened in the 13 Colonies prior to July 4th, 1776 was British history. ;)

Actually, living in one of the original 13, most locals consider it British-American history.  You are correct. 

There is "colonial" American history...then AMERICAN history.


Well, there is kinda of an overlap....starting around 1776.
Title: Re: Lol...
Post by: S204STi on February 17, 2007, 09:24:32 PM
Quote from: 93JC on February 13, 2007, 04:42:40 PM
Why would we need guns to fend off bears?

Again, preposterous: we could kill bears with our own hands. Why do you think we kicked your ass in 1812?

We?  Whos's "we"?  You got a turd in your pocket or something, it was the british who pwned us in 1812, not you crazy canucks. :lol: