Guys, I stopped by the local Mercedes-Benz dealership this afternoon and look what was up at the dealership. :mrcool:
THIS!
(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u267/cawimmer430a/2007%20Mercedes%20C220%20CDI%20W204/W204C220CDI1.jpg)
Ok, so it looks pretty basic because it is a Classic trim level C-Class, but I came away with a good impression of the car.
First off, compared to the W203, the W204 looks a little more compact and sleeker. Interesting how they managed to squeeze more interior space out of this thing. The car looks pretty good, and this was a base model Classic version. Overall, the design looks fantastic in person. I just wish this were an Elegance or Avantgarde version for the Classic version still looks pretty empty and lacking in something. Overall though, sleek and dynamic looking.
The interior was the surprising part. The pictures cannot convey the quality look to it. I was pleasantly surprised from the visual aspect of the interior. The design is pretty cool and the dark plastics used look much more HQ than the plastics used in the W203. Also, there's more chrome or chrome imitating plastic on the inside which gives a more upscale impression. Looking good in this department. :mrcool:
More pictures!
(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u267/cawimmer430a/2007%20Mercedes%20C220%20CDI%20W204/W204C220CDI.jpg)
(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u267/cawimmer430a/2007%20Mercedes%20C220%20CDI%20W204/W204C220CDI2.jpg)
(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u267/cawimmer430a/2007%20Mercedes%20C220%20CDI%20W204/W204C220CDI3.jpg)
(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u267/cawimmer430a/2007%20Mercedes%20C220%20CDI%20W204/W204C220CDI4.jpg)
(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u267/cawimmer430a/2007%20Mercedes%20C220%20CDI%20W204/W204C220CDI5.jpg)
(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u267/cawimmer430a/2007%20Mercedes%20C220%20CDI%20W204/W204C220CDI6.jpg)
With the old BMW 3-Series in the background...
(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u267/cawimmer430a/2007%20Mercedes%20C220%20CDI%20W204/W204C220CDI7.jpg)
(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u267/cawimmer430a/2007%20Mercedes%20C220%20CDI%20W204/W204C220CDI8.jpg)
(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u267/cawimmer430a/2007%20Mercedes%20C220%20CDI%20W204/W204C220CDI9.jpg)
(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u267/cawimmer430a/2007%20Mercedes%20C220%20CDI%20W204/W204C220CDI10.jpg)
ALBUM: http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2094393941
It sucks.? It wouldn't even make my top 5 if I were shopping this class.? The front looks smashed in and so does the rear.? The tail lights are atrocious.? How the same company that makes the elegent E class made this i don't understand. :huh: The BMW 3 whales the piss out of it.
I've never been a C-Class fan (as I'm sure you know :lol:), but that car really does look great. I've never driven a C-class of any generation, but if the purported driving improvements are there, I'm sure it will be contender.
Again, I've really warmed up to the styling of the car. The rear looks fantastic IMO, it's reminiscent of a first gen A5, albeit a bit more contoured.
:ohyeah:
For the record, I do agree with Catman about the E-Class. If I'm buying a Merc, the E-Class would be it.
Quote from: Catman on March 17, 2007, 10:44:21 AM
It sucks. It wouldn't even make my top 5 if I were shopping this class. The front looks smashed in and so does the rear. The tail lights are atrocious. How the same company that makes the elegent E class made this i don't understand. :huh: The BMW 3 whales the piss out of it.
The rear lights of the BMW 3er look like they came from a Hyundai. :devil:
You won't piss me off with such comments. Design is subjective. Besides, this was an entry-level CLASSIC trim level C-Class, the type used by taxi and police fleets. Elegance and Avantgarde look better.
Quote from: The Pirate on March 17, 2007, 10:46:48 AM
For the record, I do agree with Catman about the E-Class.? If I'm buying a Merc, the E-Class would be it.
My point is that the E class looks so much more elegent. This car looks like a Hyundai with a Mercedes grille. :P
Quote from: The Pirate on March 17, 2007, 10:44:48 AM
I've never been a C-Class fan (as I'm sure you know :lol:), but that car really does look great. I've never driven a C-class of any generation, but if the purported driving improvements are there, I'm sure it will be contender.
Again, I've really warmed up to the styling of the car. The rear looks fantastic IMO, it's reminiscent of a first gen A5, albeit a bit more contoured.
:ohyeah:
The first reviews are pretty positive overall though the car isn't on the same level as a BMW 3-Series in sport and handling, but it is much improved over the W203. :ohyeah:
Quote from: Catman on March 17, 2007, 10:44:21 AM
It sucks. It wouldn't even make my top 5 if I were shopping this class. The front looks smashed in and so does the rear. The tail lights are atrocious. How the same company that makes the elegent E class made this i don't understand. :huh: The BMW 3 whales the piss out of it.
I KNOW! Seriously, it looked awesome from pictures but this just looks like absolute ass. The damn E46 sedan looks much better and it's 2-3 years older.
Quote from: TheIntrepid on March 17, 2007, 11:24:03 AM
I KNOW! Seriously, it looked awesome from pictures but this just looks like absolute ass. The damn E46 sedan looks much better and it's 2-3 years older.
What kind of shit are you smoking? :rolleyes:
:lol:
I don't think it would look too bad if they flipped the taillights upside down, but the rear looks decidedly droopy as it is now.
Quote from: ifcar on March 17, 2007, 01:44:31 PM
I don't think it would look too bad if they flipped the taillights upside down, but the rear looks decidedly droopy as it is now.
I don't know, I kind of like the rear. It looks like inverted E-Class / SLK / CL lights and they add some sporty lines to the car. I think this car would look really hot in Elegance and Avantgarde trim. Classic is just too boring, lacks something...
I think it looks clean and attractive except for the sagging rear end.
This one looks kinda cheap. It doesn't look classy like most MB's.
Quote from: JYODER240 on March 17, 2007, 02:36:29 PM
This one looks kinda cheap. It doesn't look classy like most MB's.
CLASSIC trim level...
Quote from: cawimmer430 on March 17, 2007, 02:51:03 PM
CLASSIC trim level...
Classic or Elegance, no Mercedes should look this cheap. :nono:
Quote from: TheIntrepid on March 17, 2007, 02:56:11 PM
Classic or Elegance, no Mercedes should look this cheap. :nono:
I don't know what you're worrying about. The Classic trim level will only be sold in Europe and maybe Canada but not America. Also, look at these CLASSIC trim E-Class taxis...(http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/157/untitled1lf1.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
Wow, Imageshack totally sucks ****. Takes friggin minutes to upload a low quality shot. Shitbox Imageshack. :rolleyes:
Works fine for me.
Quote from: ifcar on March 17, 2007, 03:08:47 PM
Works fine for me.
Here in Europe, this trim level is popular with people who want a Mercedes and don't want to pay too much for this and that. It's not the style and trim that matters, it's the badge. A Mercedes is a Mercedes. ;)
I was only talking about ImageShack. :P
Quote from: ifcar on March 17, 2007, 03:11:50 PM
I was only talking about ImageShack. :P
Which sucks. :lol:
Quote from: cawimmer430 on March 17, 2007, 03:12:23 PM
Which sucks. :lol:
I haven't had a problem with it today.
Quote from: ifcar on March 17, 2007, 03:14:03 PM
I haven't had a problem with it today.
I always have a problem with it. It takes forever to upload images, even if they're LQ. :lockedup:
Quote from: cawimmer430 on March 17, 2007, 03:14:56 PM
I always have a problem with it. It takes forever to upload images, even if they're LQ. :lockedup:
Then perhaps the problem is on your end.
Quote from: ifcar on March 17, 2007, 03:15:34 PM
Then perhaps the problem is on your end.
When I use IE, it works better, but when I use Mozilla Firefox, Imageshack seems to be unresponsive. And I hate using IE nowadays...
It's not bad, but i saw a white older C today and it looked so much better than this thing.
Quote from: Raghavan on March 17, 2007, 03:33:24 PM
It's not bad, but i saw a white older C today and it looked so much better than this thing.
They're both RWD. :devil:
And they're both POS's.
My mom wanted a C class when we drove by the Toyota dealership the other day...
Quote from: Raghavan on March 17, 2007, 03:38:23 PM
And they're both POS's.
My mom wanted a C class when we drove by the Toyota dealership the other day...
POS? :nono:
YES.
If I'm going to get any Mercedes Benz, it'd be the SLK350 with 6speed.
Otherwise, i'll look elsewhere.
Quote from: Raghavan on March 17, 2007, 03:42:07 PM
YES.
If I'm going to get any Mercedes Benz, it'd be the SLK350 with 6speed.
Otherwise, i'll look elsewhere.
Go drive a FWD Honda. :rolleyes: :evildude:
Oh wait, i'd rather have an S2000 over an SLK. :devil:
Quote from: Raghavan on March 17, 2007, 03:46:36 PM
Oh wait, i'd rather have an S2000 over an SLK. :devil:
You'd rather drive a lawnmower than an SLK? :devil:
Hell yeah!
Better than a turd with a folding metal roof. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
I'll take a Z4 M or a Boxster over an SLK.
Oh, and in classic, this looks cheap, and bad. It makes the older E46 look good (I'm resisting the urge to troll here...)
Quote from: Raghavan on March 17, 2007, 03:54:31 PM
Better than a turd with a folding metal roof. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Quote from: ro51092 on March 17, 2007, 03:57:38 PM
I'll take a Z4 M or a Boxster over an SLK.
Oh, and in classic, this looks cheap, and bad. It makes the older E46 look good (I'm resisting the urge to troll here...)
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
Quote from: Raghavan on March 17, 2007, 04:09:39 PM
:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
You do NOT want to start it up with the smiley whore. :nono:
Wimmer, your blind following of Mercedes has gone too far. This car is so unexceptional it's not funny. Even the steering wheel looks bad. It has a droopy butt and a stubby nose. The old model looks better IMO. In this case Jake Miller has it right, even a G35 is much nicer. Sorry man, but the car stinks. :tounge:
I'm suprised the EU still lets Mercedes have that hood ornament.
Looks like it could hurt some drunk-ass pedestrian when he wanders in front of your car. On the plus side, it appears the new front end was designed by Serta so he can take a nap on your front end.
Not a fan. It manages to look droopy and stupidly upright all at the same time. Plus, one could build a house in the vast panel gap between the bonnet and front fender.
......and that F'ING AWFUL STEERING WHEEL.
Quote from: TheIntrepid on March 17, 2007, 11:24:03 AM
I KNOW! Seriously, it looked awesome from pictures but this just looks like absolute ass. The damn E46 sedan looks much better and it's 2-3 years older.
I totally agree, this C class looks like something Kia would make.? That older E46 really makes this C class look like a cheap economy car through and through.? Everything about it's shape just screams economy.
I hate to say it, but I have to agree that it looks like a Hyundai. I like Mercs and this looked good in pics but here it is awful. Classic trim or not, the overall design is the same in all trim levels and it looks bad. I hope AMG can do something with it.
This example of the W204 makes this:
(http://www.mbusa.com/media/images/main/models/gallery/photo_gallery/c/sedan_ext_4_main.jpg)
look like a damn Porsche.
QFT. Patel's got it dead on :rockon:
I like it, actually. On the contrary I think the E90 looks low-rent. The E92 is one of my favorite cars right now, OTOH.
Quote from: Catman on March 17, 2007, 06:02:52 PM
Wimmer, your blind following of Mercedes has gone too far. This car is so unexceptional it's not funny. Even the steering wheel looks bad. It has a droopy butt and a stubby nose. The old model looks better IMO. In this case Jake Miller has it right, even a G35 is much nicer. Sorry man, but the car stinks. :tounge:
This is your opinion, I on the other hand think this car looks very good. The older C-Class was always a decent car in the design department, but it looked a tad boring compared to the Audi A4 etc. The new C-Class takes care of this while remaining conservative, but with some flashy and dynamic design cues (which includes the rear). I'll be driving one soon too. :rockon:
Quote from: 565 on March 17, 2007, 08:42:14 PM
Everything about it's shape just screams economy.
That's because you're looking at an economy / cheap trim level. These are the higher spec trim levels.(http://photo.netcarshow.com/Mercedes-Benz-C-Class_2008_photo_01.jpg)
(http://photo.netcarshow.com/Mercedes-Benz-C-Class_2008_photo_24.jpg)
Quote from: cawimmer430 on March 18, 2007, 06:15:34 AM
That's because you're looking at an economy / cheap trim level. These are the higher spec trim levels.
(http://photo.netcarshow.com/Mercedes-Benz-C-Class_2008_photo_01.jpg)
(http://photo.netcarshow.com/Mercedes-Benz-C-Class_2008_photo_24.jpg)
The white one looks decent but I suspect the rear will still look bad unless there's a lip on the trunk lid.
Also, I love Mercedes-Benz, that's no secret but I am no blind fanboy. I think I have to defend the C-Class here. I subscribe to Mercedes Magazin, the inhouse publication of this brand. They had a special feature on the new C-Class that provided detailed insights into the design etc.
To me, this car looks hot, very hot. The old W203 C-Class looks boring and outdated. And while the new C-Class isn't exactly ground breaking in terms of design, it looks dynamic, fresh and elegant and that's what matters. Besides, the vast majority of customers want something a bit conservative and this is one reason why the C-Class was styled in this form. We should applaud Mercedes for allowing customers to individualize their C-Class so dramatically with the Elegance or Avantgarde trim options. I agree that the Classic trim shown here lacks something, but that's because it is a base trim made for taxi, police, rental and business fleets. Most private buyers opt for the higher spec trim levels.
(http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/4917/w204cmq9.jpg)
(http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/5188/w204c1ch4.jpg)
There was also an interview with Peter Pfeiffer, the design boss at Mercedes and he mentioned that a large part of the design inspiration for the new C-Class came from the 1982-1993 190-Series (W201). Essentially, the W204 is a semi-retro-styled 190-Series with modern, more dynamic design cues. And as someone who spends a great deal reading and being around Mercedes, I do see some elements of the 190-Series in this car.
(http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/3407/compbv4.jpg)
And to me, and many others, the C-Class looks pretty good. Alone in Germany, there are already over 55,000 orders for this car. Let's not even mention all of Europe. And this car doesn't look anything like a Kia or Hyundai. :nono:
Quote from: Catman on March 18, 2007, 06:30:16 AM
The white one looks decent but I suspect the rear will still look bad unless there's a lip on the trunk lid.
I don't know why people hate the rear so much. I think it looks very sporty.(http://photo.netcarshow.com/Mercedes-Benz-C-Class_2008_photo_59.jpg)
(http://photo.netcarshow.com/Mercedes-Benz-C-Class_2008_photo_62.jpg)
(http://photo.netcarshow.com/Mercedes-Benz-C-Class_2008_photo_63.jpg)
(http://photo.netcarshow.com/Mercedes-Benz-C-Class_2008_photo_5f.jpg)
(http://photo.netcarshow.com/Mercedes-Benz-C-Class_2008_photo_67.jpg)
That white paint does look very good on the new C class. Dark colors imo do not put it in a favorable light. All in all it looks good without being anything to get excited about.
Quote from: Galaxy on March 18, 2007, 06:46:29 AM
All in all it looks good without being anything to get excited about.
As do most Mercedes, with the exception of the CLS, SLK and S-Class.
Quote from: cawimmer430 on March 18, 2007, 06:47:17 AM
As do most Mercedes, with the exception of the CLS, SLK and S-Class.
I still consider the current Sl the best roadster on the market and it turns my head whenever I see one. I would say that, that is currently the best looking benz with the E class taking second place. The SLK and and CLS imo had a WOW factor when they came out but the styling did not age to well. The S class looks very elegant but I can not get over the
huge cave covering the instrumentation that should have been broken up into two seperate segments.
(http://photo.netcarshow.com/Mercedes-Benz-C-Class_2008_photo_63.jpg)
See? This view just ruins the whole car for me. Had they made the car a few inches longer and raised the deck lid up it would look pretty nice. But, unfortunately, someone decided to drop a piano on the trunk. Holy crap I just noticed how the hood closes on the front fender. That seam looks awful. :nono:
Look at this G35
(http://images.consumerguideauto.howstuffworks.com/cmsimages/articles/2006_articles/september_06/07_g_front_600.jpg)
It's a smart looking car, not the best out there but at least Infiniti was able to create a short rear deck without it looking droopy. Plus it looks wide and planted as a sport sedan should. The new C looks tall, narrow and droopy at the same time. It's a disaster. :tounge:
Quote from: Catman on March 18, 2007, 06:55:13 AM
See? This view just ruins the whole car for me. Had they made the car a few inches longer and raised the deck lid up it would look pretty nice.
If they raised the lid they would have gotten a BMW 6er, 7er effect. The more I look at the white one the more I like it, but the silver one and the bronze one do not look right in fact they look awful. Which is unusual since a Mercedes traditionally looks good in silver.
Quote from: Galaxy on March 18, 2007, 07:04:02 AM
If they raised the hood they would have gotten a BMW 6er, 7er effect. The more I look at the white one the more I like it, but the silver one and the bronze one do not look right in fact they look awful. Which is unusual since a Mercedes traditionally looks good in silver.
The gray one above looks pretty good but they needed to put the camera on the ground to eliminate the droop.
The classic version odviously looks a little barebones. But I think it's a pretty good design besides the rather droopy rear end. I agree that the steering wheel looks awful. I really like it in white though! I don't think darker colours work well with it.
The Lexus IS looks better though :devil:
Quote from: cawimmer430 on March 18, 2007, 06:15:34 AM
That's because you're looking at an economy / cheap trim level. These are the higher spec trim levels.
(http://photo.netcarshow.com/Mercedes-Benz-C-Class_2008_photo_01.jpg)
(http://photo.netcarshow.com/Mercedes-Benz-C-Class_2008_photo_24.jpg)
Yes those indeed look to be an improvement.
I hope they never sell that cheapo trim level here.
Quote from: Catman on March 18, 2007, 06:55:13 AM
(http://photo.netcarshow.com/Mercedes-Benz-C-Class_2008_photo_63.jpg)
See? This view just ruins the whole car for me. Had they made the car a few inches longer and raised the deck lid up it would look pretty nice. But, unfortunately, someone decided to drop a piano on the trunk. Holy crap I just noticed how the hood closes on the front fender. That seam looks awful. :nono:
Look at this G35
(http://images.consumerguideauto.howstuffworks.com/cmsimages/articles/2006_articles/september_06/07_g_front_600.jpg)
It's a smart looking car, not the best out there but at least Infiniti was able to create a short rear deck without it looking droopy. Plus it looks wide and planted as a sport sedan should. The new C looks tall, narrow and droopy at the same time. It's a disaster. :tounge:
I honestly don't see what makes this a problem. A short rear lid is something almost every car in this class has. Also, when I checked out the car yesterday, the boot didn't look anything like in the photos. You probably need to see it in real life. :ohyeah:
Troll :rolleyes:
So the real Chris Wimmer is a lot like Jake Miller :P.
Quote from: AKL on March 18, 2007, 07:29:39 AM
The classic version odviously looks a little barebones. But I think it's a pretty good design besides the rather droopy rear end. I agree that the steering wheel looks awful. I really like it in white though! I don't think darker colours work well with it.
The Lexus IS looks better though :devil:
I personally find the Lexus IS "trying too hard" to be sporty and just ending up looking goofy. It doesn't help that every Lexus fanboy I know thinks the IS-F will dethrone the M3 etc. :rolleyes: :lol:
You're just biased against Lexus. The IS is a pretty damn attractive car, as boring to drive as it may be.
Quote from: TheIntrepid on March 18, 2007, 10:04:17 AM
Troll :rolleyes:
So the real Chris Wimmer is a lot like Jake Miller :P.
Do you see me calling people "stupid motherfuckers" here? :lol:
Quote from: 565 on March 18, 2007, 08:10:20 AM
Yes those indeed look to be an improvement.
I hope they never sell that cheapo trim level here.
North America won't get the cheap trim, except maybe Canada. :cry:
Sorry Wimmer, the back of the car looks terrible. Open your eyes.
Quote from: Catman on March 18, 2007, 10:11:18 AM
Sorry Wimmer, the back of the car looks terrible. Open your eyes.
:clap: Mucho love for Catman.
Quote from: Catman on March 18, 2007, 10:11:18 AM
Sorry Wimmer, the back of the car looks terrible. Open your eyes.
My personal tastes don't find the rear terrible. The R-Class rear is hideous for example but not this.
The hood seam on the front fender was a mistake too. It ruins the side profile. They've succeeded in creating a problem from every angle. I predict it will not increase sales in NA. The superior G35 will certainly outsell it. Plus the infiniti is not crippled with a heinous steering wheel. So much nicer inside the G. :wub:
(http://images.consumerguideauto.howstuffworks.com/cmsimages/articles/2006_articles/september_06/07_g_sedan_aluminum_600.jpg)
Quote from: Catman on March 18, 2007, 10:18:22 AM
The hood seam on the front fender was a mistake too. It ruins the side profile. They've succeeded in creating a problem from every angle. I predict it will not increase sales in NA. The superior G35 will certainly outsell it. Plus the infiniti is not crippled with a heinous steering wheel. So much nicer inside the G.
(http://images.consumerguideauto.howstuffworks.com/cmsimages/articles/2006_articles/september_06/07_g_sedan_aluminum_600.jpg)
Sorry to say this but your comment above sound like those of an Infiniti fanboy. A lot of people don't buy cars based on looks but because of the badge or safety features etc. Also, I know quite a few W203 C-Class owners on GermanCarZone who like the look and have already ordered a W204 - and these people are not 20 year old enthusiasts but guys in their late 20s or 30s. And most of them like the interior. Also, if you don't like the steering wheel, order the other one:(http://photo.netcarshow.com/Mercedes-Benz-C-Class_2008_photo_87.jpg)
Look how uninviting this place is. The minute you get in you have that steering wheel in your face to remind you of the mistake you made buying this car.
(http://photo.netcarshow.com/Mercedes-Benz-C-Class_2008_photo_87.jpg)
This wheel doesn't look any different from the normal one? :confused:
Quote from: Catman on March 18, 2007, 10:24:42 AM
Look how uninviting this place is. The minute you get in you have that steering wheel in your face to remind you of the mistake you made buying this car.
(http://photo.netcarshow.com/Mercedes-Benz-C-Class_2008_photo_87.jpg)
:huh:
Let me settle this.
The 3-SERIES OWNS BOTH OF THEM.
Mercedes will be out of business in a few years with product like this. They should have never used the Dodge Calibers platform either. Basically, this is a Dodge with an ugly steering wheel.
Quote from: Catman on March 18, 2007, 10:28:55 AM
Mercedes will be out of business in a few years with product like this. They should have never used the Dodge Calibers platform either.
THEY USED WHAT?!
Quote from: ro51092 on March 18, 2007, 10:28:27 AM
Let me settle this.
The 3-SERIES OWNS BOTH OF THEM.
In what? Driving dynamics? Poser factor? :huh:
Quote from: Catman on March 18, 2007, 10:28:55 AM
Mercedes will be out of business in a few years with product like this. They should have never used the Dodge Calibers platform either. Basically, this is a Dodge with an ugly steering wheel.
Did you take the cocain from someone you arrested today? You sound high! :confused:
If they used the Dodge Calibers platform, it wouldn't be called W204 would it? The W,C,A or R codes at Mercedes signify the PLATFORM and the type of car (C = coupe, R = roadster etc.). Dodge has nothing to do with the new C-Class.
Quote from: cawimmer430 on March 18, 2007, 10:31:18 AM
If they used the Dodge Calibers platform, it wouldn't be called W204 would it? The W,C,A or R codes at Mercedes signify the PLATFORM and the type of car (C = coupe, R = roadster etc.). Dodge has nothing to do with the new C-Class.[/size]
Sorry Wims. :(
Nissan has NOTHING to do with Infiniti!!! Are you high? They're different companies!!!
Quote from: TheIntrepid on March 18, 2007, 10:32:06 AM
Sorry Wims. :(
Nissan has NOTHING to do with Infiniti!!! Are you high? They're different companies!!!
Tell that to Jake Miller...
Check your Facebook.
Quote from: TheIntrepid on March 18, 2007, 10:33:53 AM
Check your Facebook.
Dude, I am not into gay porn! :nono: :pullover:
Quote from: TheIntrepid on March 18, 2007, 10:08:00 AM
You're just biased against Lexus. The IS is a pretty damn attractive car, as boring to drive as it may be.
The IS has an aggressive front, which is fine, but the sides of the car are bland and conservative. The rear end is boxy and ackward. They needed to decide if if they were going to make the entire car aggressive or conservative but instead they tried to combine the two and it doesn't work.
(http://img.drive.com.au/drive_images/Editorial/2006/04/26/9lex_leadimage__400x303_m.jpg)
The IS300 was a great design, they kept one theme throughout the whole car and it worked:
(http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews/justdriven/0707_1+2002_To_2005_Lexus_IS300_SportDesign+Front_Passenger_Side_View.jpg)
:huh: I don't think the sides look bland at all, and the rear looks just fine. Of course, design is purely subjective. I really liked the last one as well.
I'm with cat, this thing does not look good at all, especially that hood.
Quote from: Catman on March 18, 2007, 10:24:42 AM
Look how uninviting this place is. The minute you get in you have that steering wheel in your face to remind you of the mistake you made buying this car.
(http://photo.netcarshow.com/Mercedes-Benz-C-Class_2008_photo_87.jpg)
The wheel looks like a dead turkey.
Quote from: Raghavan on March 18, 2007, 12:58:56 PM
The wheel looks like a dead turkey.
The whole car does. I should just delete this thread. :P
Go ahead. :P I'd vote for that. Plus it would be funny to see Wimmer throw a fit.
I kind of like it.
Quote from: Catman on March 18, 2007, 01:00:09 PM
The whole car does. I should just delete this thread. :P
Nah, the whole car is a saggy mess.
Quote from: cawimmer430 on March 18, 2007, 10:29:35 AM
In what? Driving dynamics? Poser factor? :huh:
Driving dynamics, sporty factor, engines, chassis, everything.
Wow, I'm so disappointed. That looks like shit. The rear is absolutely terrible.
Am I only one the notice how worrying large the panel gap between the wing and bonnet is?
Quote from: nickdrinkwater on March 18, 2007, 02:19:58 PM
Wow, I'm so disappointed. That looks like shit. The rear is absolutely terrible.
Am I only one the notice how worrying large the panel gap between the wing and bonnet is?
Since you're probably the only one who knows what a "wing" is in this context, I'd say yes.
Quote from: nickdrinkwater on March 18, 2007, 02:19:58 PM
Wow, I'm so disappointed.? That looks like shit.? The rear is absolutely terrible.
Am I only one the notice how worrying large the panel gap between the wing and bonnet is?
I mentioned it a couple times. Looks like the hood from a Saturn View. I'd post a pic but i'm on the Treo. The new C is a mess!
Quote from: Catman on March 18, 2007, 03:44:33 PM
I mentioned it a couple times. Looks like the hood from a Saturn View. I'd post a pic but i'm on the Treo. The new C is a mess!
VUE. ;)
Looks like Mercedes consulted Saturn when they designed the hood seam. :confused:
(http://www.tomstrongman.com/RoadTests/VueRedLine/Images/06Vue.jpg)
OoOoh the Redline...someone's feeling ambitious
Holy crap! The front quarter view looks like the new Sonata!!!
Other than that... it looks alright.
Quote from: sportyaccordy on March 19, 2007, 04:57:08 AM
Holy crap! The front quarter view looks like the new Sonata!!!
Other than that... it looks alright.
True... but that's a good thing. ;) The new Sonata is pretty attractive IMO.
Regarding the hood seam all of the newer cars which are also sold in Europe have that due to the new regulations regarding pedestrian safety. Some designers are better at hiding it though.
Some examples:
(http://www.bmw.com/generic/de/de/products/automobiles/3series/coupe/download/img/download_3series_coupe_04.jpg)(http://www.motorauthority.com/wp-content/uploads/Kia/Cee__d/4_kia_ceed_production.jpg)
Did you just compare a Kia to an E92?
Quote from: TheIntrepid on March 20, 2007, 03:46:03 PM
Did you just compare a Kia to an E92?
Aren't they in the same class? Oh wait, the Kia is a hatch. :devil:
Quote from: Catman on March 20, 2007, 03:51:03 PM
Aren't they in the same class? Oh wait, the Kia is a hatch. :devil:
:P
Quote from: TheIntrepid on March 18, 2007, 10:08:00 AM
You're just biased against Lexus. The IS is a pretty damn attractive car, as boring to drive as it may be.
It's not as engaging as a 3-Series or A4 (the old one was), but it's not a boring drive. My main gripes with the IS are the lack of a 6MT on the 350 model and no way to turn off traction control. I was considering it as a replacement at one time.
Farris, I have all of your gripes, plus the thing is fucking heavy. It looks okay.
Quote from: ro51092 on March 25, 2007, 11:32:18 AM
Farris, I have all of your gripes, plus the thing's fucking heavy. It looks okay.
The IS looks like car. If it were in a movie, it would be billed as "Car #4". It just looks like something. It has no character, no boldness, and it's completely anonymous. The sides have no shape, the front feigns aggression, and if you put together the whole package it could be any car in the Toyota line.
Quote from: Raza on March 25, 2007, 12:21:02 PM
The IS looks like car. If it were in a movie, it would be billed as "Car #4". It just looks like something. It has no character, no boldness, and it's completely anonymous. The sides have no shape, the front feigns aggression, and if you put together the whole package it could be any car in the Toyota line.
What if...it was the only car in the movie?
(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u267/cawimmer430a/2007%20Mercedes%20C220%20CDI%20W204/W204C220CDI2.jpg)
A Mercedes or a Toyota?
Quote from: mazda6er on March 25, 2007, 12:38:34 PM
What if...it was the only car in the movie?
Still Car #4.
Quote from: Raza on March 25, 2007, 01:17:11 PM
Still Car #4.
That's the exact response I wanted.
IMO, the IS looks the best in this class.
Quote from: BENZ BOY15 on March 25, 2007, 02:28:14 PM
IMO, the IS looks the best in this class.
I'd have to give that honor to the CTS,9-3,or A4.
I"d have to give that honor to the E90.
E92, not so much.
The IS is attractive, yes, but it's not the best in class. The A4 and E90 certainly look better. Both those cars have unmatched classiness.
The IS and 3 series?
How do you people drive, when you're all so blind?
Quote from: Raza ?link=topic=8176.msg397906#msg397906 date=1174928166
The IS and 3 series?
How do you people drive, when you're all so blind?
The 3-series is far more involving to drive than an IS. I know it gets old hearing it but the 3er probably is the best drivers car in the segment.
Quote from: JYODER240 on March 26, 2007, 10:09:02 PM
The 3-series is far more involving to drive than an IS. I know it gets old hearing it but the 3er probably is the best drivers car in the segment.
I don't think that gets old.
Quote from: JYODER240 on March 26, 2007, 10:09:02 PM
The 3-series is far more involving to drive than an IS. I know it gets old hearing it but the 3er probably is the best drivers car in the segment.
The IS could be the most fun and involving and the fastest and the cheapest, that doesn't make it not ugly.
The 3 series is the same. I didn't say it wasn't a good car. I just said it was ugly, and you should all have your eyes tested.
Here are some more pics:
(http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/9740/8450951ol9.jpg)
(http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/6907/8451111rq5.jpg)
(http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/8205/pict2936dl1.jpg)
(http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/2545/pict2937iy1.jpg)
(http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/6595/pict2939nr7.jpg)
SWEET SHOTS! :rockon:
(http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/9740/8450951ol9.jpg)
I want that one.
Quote from: Raza on April 01, 2007, 08:34:40 AM
(http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/9740/8450951ol9.jpg)
I want that one.
I would take that one too.
How can I get that paintjob on the hood of my Esteem? Do they make that in a vinyl decal?
God, I love this new C-Klasse.
(http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/6595/pict2939nr7.jpg)
^Nice interior combo!
Isn't that the same interior combo as your car? :P
Quote from: TheIntrepid on April 01, 2007, 06:49:44 PM
Isn't that the same interior combo as your car? :P
I wish. BMW doesn't offer two-tones in the US except for the Terra leather (which is very nice IMO).
My car is all-black on the inside. I like black interiors, but I like them even more when they're two-tones with lighter colored seats. One of my favorites is the 'Silver leather' interior audi had on its old S6.