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Question: 1970-1978 240Z/260Z/280Z or 2003-present 350Z
Option 1:
Option 2:
Title: S30 Nissan Z-car vs. Z33 Nissan Z-car
Post by: 280Z Turbo on May 08, 2007, 01:34:26 PM
You know I had to do it! :thumbsup:

(http://www.zcar.com/images/month/2005/10/3_big.jpg)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Nissan_350Z_flickr.jpg/800px-Nissan_350Z_flickr.jpg)
Title: Re: S30 Nissan Z-car vs. Z33 Nissan Z-car
Post by: afty on May 08, 2007, 01:42:00 PM
When I was a kid, my dad had a red 280Z that I loved.  I always wanted to ride in it wherever we went.  He had to get rid of it because it was a 2-seater and couldn't seat him, my mom, and me.  I trace my love of Nissans and manual transmissions back to this car. 
Title: Re: S30 Nissan Z-car vs. Z33 Nissan Z-car
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on May 08, 2007, 01:43:32 PM
I voted for the new one because I like it, even though I like the old one too.  :huh:
Title: Re: S30 Nissan Z-car vs. Z33 Nissan Z-car
Post by: Onslaught on May 08, 2007, 03:06:19 PM
240Z for me if it's rust free. I'll even take a 260Z if I couldn't find a 240.
Title: Re: S30 Nissan Z-car vs. Z33 Nissan Z-car
Post by: TheIntrepid on May 08, 2007, 03:09:13 PM
New one.
Title: Re: S30 Nissan Z-car vs. Z33 Nissan Z-car
Post by: SVT666 on May 08, 2007, 03:25:21 PM
Old one with a 5.0L conversion. :rockon:
Title: Re: S30 Nissan Z-car vs. Z33 Nissan Z-car
Post by: Onslaught on May 08, 2007, 03:36:04 PM
Quote from: HEMI666 on May 08, 2007, 03:25:21 PM
Old one with a 5.0L conversion. :rockon:
:( no way.
Title: Re: S30 Nissan Z-car vs. Z33 Nissan Z-car
Post by: TheIntrepid on May 08, 2007, 03:38:11 PM
Quote from: HEMI666 on May 08, 2007, 03:25:21 PM
Old one with a 5.0L conversion. :rockon:

:wtf:

My respect for you has slightly dropped.
Title: Re: S30 Nissan Z-car vs. Z33 Nissan Z-car
Post by: SVT666 on May 08, 2007, 03:57:17 PM
Quote from: Onslaught on May 08, 2007, 03:36:04 PM
:( no way.

Quote from: TheIntrepid on May 08, 2007, 03:38:11 PM
:wtf:

My respect for you has slightly dropped.


What's wrong with that?  It would kick ass.
Title: Re: S30 Nissan Z-car vs. Z33 Nissan Z-car
Post by: 850CSi on May 08, 2007, 05:19:19 PM
This is a little tough... I'm going to go with the original.

I like the new one and the VQ is one hell of an engine but I cringe every time I see one from the rear. It's a nice design at the front and the side profile is alright but it's got a dreadfully ugly arse.
Title: Re: S30 Nissan Z-car vs. Z33 Nissan Z-car
Post by: Raghavan on May 08, 2007, 05:25:45 PM
240Z for me please.
Title: Re: S30 Nissan Z-car vs. Z33 Nissan Z-car
Post by: sandertheshark on May 08, 2007, 05:35:48 PM
Quote from: HEMI666 on May 08, 2007, 03:25:21 PM
Old one with a 5.0L conversion. :rockon:
:nono:

240Z with an N1 engine. :praise:
Title: Re: S30 Nissan Z-car vs. Z33 Nissan Z-car
Post by: Raza on May 08, 2007, 05:39:02 PM
I'll take the old one, thank you.  The new one is boring.
Title: Re: S30 Nissan Z-car vs. Z33 Nissan Z-car
Post by: JYODER240 on May 08, 2007, 07:11:01 PM
As much as I absolutely love my 350, I picked the 240Z. They're just so gorgeous.
Title: Re: S30 Nissan Z-car vs. Z33 Nissan Z-car
Post by: 850CSi on May 08, 2007, 07:42:09 PM
Quote from: JYODER240 on May 08, 2007, 07:11:01 PM
As much as I absolutely love my 350, I picked the 240Z. They're just so gorgeous.

:praise:
Title: Re: S30 Nissan Z-car vs. Z33 Nissan Z-car
Post by: Onslaught on May 08, 2007, 07:45:30 PM
Quote from: HEMI666 on May 08, 2007, 03:57:17 PM
What's wrong with that?? It would kick ass.
I know a guy who put a Chevy small block in his 280 and I just didn't like the cars personality after that. To each his own but if I wanted an American V8 powered car I would buy a Corvette or Camaro. I like the old Datsun motors.
Title: Re: S30 Nissan Z-car vs. Z33 Nissan Z-car
Post by: Pancor on May 08, 2007, 08:42:21 PM
Well this has to be the easiest one yet.    S30, without a goddamned doubt.     Ford 302 for even more appeal....
Title: Re: S30 Nissan Z-car vs. Z33 Nissan Z-car
Post by: S204STi on May 08, 2007, 09:46:32 PM
S30 without a doubt. :ohyeah:
Title: Re: S30 Nissan Z-car vs. Z33 Nissan Z-car
Post by: 280Z Turbo on May 08, 2007, 09:55:04 PM
Guess which one I picked. ;) Anyway, here are some pros and cons for you:

350Z:
-Quieter
-More comfortable
-More powerful
-Safer
-Better brakes
-More grip
-Less rusty
-Doesn't suck in exhaust fumes
-Better interior
-Good aerodynamics (the S30 is AWFUL in that respect)
-The VQ-series V6 sounds great!

S30:
-Lighter
-More involving to drive
-Better looking
-Easier to work on
-Cheaper to run, cheaper to buy, cheaper to mod
-The L-series straight six also sounds great!
Title: Re: S30 Nissan Z-car vs. Z33 Nissan Z-car
Post by: goldenlover1101 on May 09, 2007, 07:03:12 AM
I picked the new one, although I love the old one and its gorgeous. The new one is very attractive in coupe form, but in convertible form it is horribly ugly from behind, almosty like someone added a hump on the trunk.
Title: Re: S30 Nissan Z-car vs. Z33 Nissan Z-car
Post by: SVT666 on May 09, 2007, 08:19:05 AM
Quote from: Onslaught on May 08, 2007, 07:45:30 PM
I know a guy who put a Chevy small block in his 280 and I just didn't like the cars personality after that. To each his own but if I wanted an American V8 powered car I would buy a Corvette or Camaro. I like the old Datsun motors.
Yeah cause the Ford engines installed in the Cobra ruined those cars. :lol:
Title: Re: S30 Nissan Z-car vs. Z33 Nissan Z-car
Post by: omicron on May 09, 2007, 08:30:14 AM
240/60/80. Thank goodness you didn't say 280ZX, or I'd have gotten upset.

That being said, a 280ZX wouldn't be all bad. I might enjoy it, actually. Only the early '79-'80 ones, mind.
Title: Re: S30 Nissan Z-car vs. Z33 Nissan Z-car
Post by: Onslaught on May 09, 2007, 02:50:36 PM
Quote from: HEMI666 on May 09, 2007, 08:19:05 AM
Yeah cause the Ford engines installed in the Cobra ruined those cars. :lol:
I didn't say ruined. I just don't like them!
Title: Re: S30 Nissan Z-car vs. Z33 Nissan Z-car
Post by: 280Z Turbo on May 09, 2007, 03:21:40 PM
Quote from: omicron on May 09, 2007, 08:30:14 AM
240/60/80. Thank goodness you didn't say 280ZX, or I'd have gotten upset.

That being said, a 280ZX wouldn't be all bad. I might enjoy it, actually. Only the early '79-'80 ones, mind.

Why? The 1979-1981 models are all pretty much the same. The 1982-1983 cars got body colored bumpers.
Title: Re: S30 Nissan Z-car vs. Z33 Nissan Z-car
Post by: 280Z Turbo on May 09, 2007, 03:28:10 PM
Quote from: Onslaught on May 08, 2007, 07:45:30 PM
I know a guy who put a Chevy small block in his 280 and I just didn't like the cars personality after that. To each his own but if I wanted an American V8 powered car I would buy a Corvette or Camaro. I like the old Datsun motors.

I don't want to agree with that, but I kinda do.

Everybody and their mom has a Chevy V8. It's more fun to kick some ass with a Nissan engine rather than a Chevy engine wrapped in a Nissan skin. I feel like I'm part of team Nissan, sometimes. :P
Title: Re: S30 Nissan Z-car vs. Z33 Nissan Z-car
Post by: Raza on May 09, 2007, 04:38:50 PM
That's true.  I have a Chevy V8.  And I just got my mom one for Mother's Day.
Title: Re: S30 Nissan Z-car vs. Z33 Nissan Z-car
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on May 09, 2007, 04:39:30 PM
Quote from: Raza ?link=topic=9012.msg444131#msg444131 date=1178750330
That's true.? I have a Chevy V8.? And I just got my mom one for Mother's Day.

I just sold my last one, what shud I doo? :(
Title: Re: S30 Nissan Z-car vs. Z33 Nissan Z-car
Post by: 280Z Turbo on May 09, 2007, 05:02:31 PM
Quote from: Raza on May 09, 2007, 04:38:50 PM
That's true. I have a Chevy V8. And I just got my mom one for Mother's Day.

Figure of speech there, buddy. :evildude:
Title: Re: S30 Nissan Z-car vs. Z33 Nissan Z-car
Post by: The Pirate on May 09, 2007, 07:49:31 PM
Old one for sure.
Title: Re: S30 Nissan Z-car vs. Z33 Nissan Z-car
Post by: omicron on May 10, 2007, 03:41:04 AM
Quote from: 280Z Turbo on May 09, 2007, 03:21:40 PM
Why? The 1979-1981 models are all pretty much the same. The 1982-1983 cars got body colored bumpers.

I prefer the smaller chrome/black bumpers that we got on the '79-'80s, instead of the later models.
Title: Re: S30 Nissan Z-car vs. Z33 Nissan Z-car
Post by: SVT666 on May 10, 2007, 07:48:17 AM
Quote from: Onslaught on May 09, 2007, 02:50:36 PM
I didn't say ruined. I just don't like them!
You don't like Cobras? :confused:
Title: Re: S30 Nissan Z-car vs. Z33 Nissan Z-car
Post by: CMan on May 10, 2007, 12:33:26 PM
New one!
Title: Re: S30 Nissan Z-car vs. Z33 Nissan Z-car
Post by: Onslaught on May 10, 2007, 03:46:18 PM
Quote from: HEMI666 on May 10, 2007, 07:48:17 AM
You don't like Cobras? :confused:
No I love them. But they use the motor that was supposed to be put in them. I'm just not a fan of putting V8's into RX-7's, Z cars or others like them. I'm a person that enjoys getting the most out of the motor the car came with. Throwing more and bigger at stuff isn't always a way to make it better.  But to each his own.
Title: Re: S30 Nissan Z-car vs. Z33 Nissan Z-car
Post by: 280Z Turbo on May 11, 2007, 12:38:42 AM
Quote from: Onslaught on May 10, 2007, 03:46:18 PM
No I love them. But they use the motor that was supposed to be put in them. I'm just not a fan of putting V8's into RX-7's, Z cars or others like them. I'm a person that enjoys getting the most out of the motor the car came with. Throwing more and bigger at stuff isn't always a way to make it better. But to each his own.

What about me using the '81 280ZX Turbo's engine in my Z? What if I used a Nissan VG30 from a 300ZX? Or a Nissan VH45DE 4.5L V8?

Horsepower is underrated by enthusiasts, IMO.
Title: Re: S30 Nissan Z-car vs. Z33 Nissan Z-car
Post by: SVT666 on May 11, 2007, 07:39:25 AM
Quote from: Onslaught on May 10, 2007, 03:46:18 PM
No I love them. But they use the motor that was supposed to be put in them. I'm just not a fan of putting V8's into RX-7's, Z cars or others like them. I'm a person that enjoys getting the most out of the motor the car came with. Throwing more and bigger at stuff isn't always a way to make it better.? But to each his own.
The Ford V8 was not meant to be in the Cobra.  The Ace (Cobra) as built by the manufacturer AC Cars had a Bristol straight 6.  It was Carroll Shelby who imported the cars and renamed them Shelby Cobra and modified them to accept the Ford 289 V8.  Later he fitted the side oiler Ford 427 V8 to the new chassis that was introduced in 1965. 
Title: Re: S30 Nissan Z-car vs. Z33 Nissan Z-car
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on May 11, 2007, 07:52:32 AM
Everything needs a V-8 in it, even Porsche 914's or Suzuki Samurais!? There's always a way to make it fit, and there's no good reason not to do it. :lol:
Title: Re: S30 Nissan Z-car vs. Z33 Nissan Z-car
Post by: 280Z Turbo on May 11, 2007, 02:21:36 PM
Quote from: omicron on May 10, 2007, 03:41:04 AM
I prefer the smaller chrome/black bumpers that we got on the '79-'80s, instead of the later models.

Ah...perhaps the Australian market is different.

There's probably quite a few JDM Fairlady Zs down under, I'll bet.
Title: Re: S30 Nissan Z-car vs. Z33 Nissan Z-car
Post by: Champ on May 11, 2007, 02:35:10 PM
Quote from: 280Z Turbo on May 08, 2007, 01:34:26 PM
(http://www.zcar.com/images/month/2005/10/3_big.jpg)
This car is just tooooooooo sexy not to vote for it.  :D
Title: Re: S30 Nissan Z-car vs. Z33 Nissan Z-car
Post by: Onslaught on May 11, 2007, 03:08:03 PM
Quote from: HEMI666 on May 11, 2007, 07:39:25 AM
The Ford V8 was not meant to be in the Cobra.? The Ace (Cobra) as built by the manufacturer AC Cars had a Bristol straight 6.? It was Carroll Shelby who imported the cars and renamed them Shelby Cobra and modified them to accept the Ford 289 V8.? Later he fitted the side oiler Ford 427 V8 to the new chassis that was introduced in 1965.?
I'm not a cobra fan so I'll admit right now that I don't know all that much about it. I still stand behind my other posts.
Title: Re: S30 Nissan Z-car vs. Z33 Nissan Z-car
Post by: MidnightDave on May 11, 2007, 09:23:31 PM
Thanks for reminding me again, I was a dumb@ss for selling my '77 280Z for a '78 Grand Prix!  :partyon:

P.S. I'm having a good time with the smileys tonight!