Too many choices for a poll...
For me, it's a tie up between:
The F40
(http://www.labidouille.org/ferrari/fondecran/f40_14.jpg)
And the 360CS
(http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/04/challenge03_01_800.jpg)
Just pure and beautiful... and fast... like I like my women...
F40.
F40.
I'll say that again.
F40.
Please gimme the F40.
Of the two you listed, it would have to be the 360CS, but honestly the 599 GTB Fiorano is my favorite Ferrari of all time. Simply beautiful.
Between the two that I have to chose it would be the F40.
I love both, but the F40 seems to be the more exotic and exciting. Any Ferrari is the greatest of all time though!
250 short wheelbase California Spyder. :rockon:
(http://www.powerzone.com.uy/articulos/varios/autos%20de%20pelicula%202/Otras%20Peliculas/Ferry%20Bueller%20250%20GT%20SWB%20SPYDER%20CALIFORNIA%20DE%201961.jpg)
Pure sex. A Ferrari need not be the fastest to be the best.
I don't see how you could even compare a F40 and a 360 CS...
Anyway F40 for me.
The greatest is the F40.
My personal favorite is the 550 Maranello. 360CS is up there.
Quote from: M_power on June 03, 2007, 11:28:13 PM
I don't see how you could even compare a F40 and a 360 CS...
Anyway F40 for me.
I love the F40 with all my heart and soul... but if I had to have one car to drive right now, it would be the 360CS... the new F430 is too high-tech, and the regular 360, while beautiful, and probably more than enough car for me, just isn't as special as the CS... although a regular 360 w/a Novitec exhaust and some BBS LMs would be enough for me.
The greatest is the Enzo, but my favourite is the F40.
Greatest? Maybe the 1957 Testa Rossa. I also like the F40, and a special mention to the 512 Berlinetta Boxer:
(http://www.heritageclassics.com/ferrari/84red512bbi2/84red512bbi2ext1.jpg)
Quote from: the Teuton on June 03, 2007, 11:13:01 PM
250 short wheelbase California Spyder. :rockon:
(http://www.powerzone.com.uy/articulos/varios/autos%20de%20pelicula%202/Otras%20Peliculas/Ferry%20Bueller%20250%20GT%20SWB%20SPYDER%20CALIFORNIA%20DE%201961.jpg)
Pure sex. A Ferrari need not be the fastest to be the best.
That, or a 250GTE, and I entirely agree.
I'd vote for anyone of the front engine GTs of the '50s and '60s.
A '62 250 GTO for example:
(http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/1318/250px1962ferrari250gto3yw4.jpg)
F40 :rockon:
The F40 is an icon. It's definently the greatest Ferrari compared to the CS. However at this point if I had to choose between the two for myself I'd pick the CS.
F40 for me! Just like sportyaccordy I like the F40 like I like women: They should be born before 1990... :lol:
No, seriously: The F40 is a beast. It's edgy, loud and fast. I once had one on the Autobahn in front of me... For a short time until that dude in front of it turned to the right. Then I smelled gas and it was gone...
The F40 is a great car...for as long as it doesn't fall apart. I remember reading and 3 day long head-to-head comparison in Road and Track back in the early 90s between the F40 and the Diablo and R&T hired an exotic car mechanic to travel with them thoughout the three days to fix everything that broke on both cars. The Diablo had a list of 40 or so items and the F40 had a list of 15 or so things. Everything from the doors shifting on their hinges, to engines not starting, to interior trim falling off, etc. If I had to I could probably find the issue at home.
Of the two, the F40. My second favorite Ferrari of all time. But my favorite Ferrari, and one of my top 5 cars of all time is the 250 Lusso:
(http://www.supercars.net/pitlane/pics/488939d.jpg)
(http://www.supercars.net/pitlane/pics/602319b.jpg)
Quote from: HEMI666 on June 04, 2007, 10:00:06 AM
The F40 is a great car...for as long as it doesn't fall apart. I remember reading and 3 day long head-to-head comparison in Road and Track back in the early 90s between the F40 and the Diablo and R&T hired an exotic car mechanic to travel with them thoughout the three days to fix everything that broke on both cars. The Diablo had a list of 40 or so items and the F40 had a list of 15 or so things. Everything from the doors shifting on their hinges, to engines not starting, to interior trim falling off, etc. If I had to I could probably find the issue at home.
There were three F40s in my old sports car club, a couple of which were used regularly. I don't recall there being that many issues with them.
(http://mywebpages.comcast.net/cvetters3/extremes.jpg)
Quote from: ChrisV on June 04, 2007, 11:09:48 AM
Of the two, the F40. My second favorite Ferrari of all time. But my favorite Ferrari, and one of my top 5 cars of all time is the 250 Lusso:
(http://www.supercars.net/pitlane/pics/488939d.jpg)
(http://www.supercars.net/pitlane/pics/602319b.jpg)
That car is sooooo hot.
Eh. I never liked the F40. I don't know why everyone goes so crazy for it. It's development was done on the 288GTO Evoluzione (which shares many of it's parts), which was just a hopped up version of the regular 288GTO, which itself was a hopped up version of the entry level 308GTB. I'd much rather have the F50, which was built as a road going formula car, with the suspension directly bolted the the transmission.
Maybe not the greatest, but one of the most beautiful, imo, is the 275GTB...
(http://www.motorbase.com/uploads/2005/12/27/fs_image003.jpg)
(http://www.motorbase.com/uploads/2007/01/29/fs_800px_ferrari_275_1967_3.jpg)
Quote from: FoMoJo on June 04, 2007, 12:06:53 PM
Maybe not the greatest, but one of the most beautiful, imo, is the 275GTB...
Agreed
Quote from: 565 on June 04, 2007, 12:05:20 PM
Eh. I never liked the F40. I don't know why everyone goes so crazy for it. It's development was done on the 288GTO Evoluzione (which shares many of it's parts), which was just a hopped up version of the regular 288GTO, which itself was a hopped up version of the entry level 308GTB.
That's actually a lot of the reason it's so well loved. The basic Pininfarina 308/328 shape is very well known and attractive, and the mods done to it to get both the 288 GTO and the F40 add a good deal of aggression while retaining that beautiful coke-bottle form. The F50 wasn't as well received because it is far less beautiful/aggressive to most people. The F40 says "I'm a raw, fun, race car evolved from a street car." The F50 says, "I'm checkbook engineering" Most people tend to appreciate the former rather than the latter.
Quote from: FoMoJo on June 04, 2007, 12:06:53 PM
Maybe not the greatest, but one of the most beautiful, imo, is the 275GTB...
Another good choice!
I think the most beautiful car ever made is this:
(http://images.google.com/url?q=http://home.comcast.net/~jonathan.bird/tutorial/246_dino.jpg&usg=AFQjCNEkmOXuEFrlE8O7UjZs5KD-QDGMNA)
Quote from: Raza on June 04, 2007, 12:44:49 PM
I think the most beautiful car ever made is this:
(http://images.google.com/url?q=http://home.comcast.net/~jonathan.bird/tutorial/246_dino.jpg&usg=AFQjCNEkmOXuEFrlE8O7UjZs5KD-QDGMNA)
What about the 246 Dino makes it your favorite?
Quote from: 565 on June 04, 2007, 12:05:20 PM
Eh. I never liked the F40. I don't know why everyone goes so crazy for it. It's development was done on the 288GTO Evoluzione (which shares many of it's parts), which was just a hopped up version of the regular 288GTO, which itself was a hopped up version of the entry level 308GTB. I'd much rather have the F50, which was built as a road going formula car, with the suspension directly bolted the the transmission.
The F50 was also hideous, and didn't have the same impact on the world as the F40. From what I know, when the F40 came out, it was the fastest car in the world and basically unlike anything the world had ever seen. The F50 was basically routine in comparison...
It was also very ugly...
wow. How could you not pick F40?
166MM!!!!!!
Quote from: ro51092 on June 04, 2007, 04:07:51 PM
wow. How could you not pick F40?
How can you pick any one Ferrari?
My favorites are the 360 Challenge Stradale, the 512 Testarossa, the 288 GTO, the 500 Superamerica, and the 400 California Spyder
The 360 is actually one of the ugliest Ferraris of all time IMO.
Quote from: sportyaccordy on June 04, 2007, 02:13:34 PM
The F50 was also hideous, and didn't have the same impact on the world as the F40. From what I know, when the F40 came out, it was the fastest car in the world and basically unlike anything the world had ever seen. The F50 was basically routine in comparison...
The F40 was certainly not unique, most evident by the fact that Enzo Ferrari had the car built as a direct competitor to the Porsche 959. And it's obvious when you compare the specs and nature of the two cars. Both cars packed twin turbo engines displacing about 2.8 liters producing very similar HP levels. Both cars were extremely modified version of base cars, the 308 GTB and the Porsche 911. Plus the fact that they pretty much admitted to targeting the 959.
Here's the article on Wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F40
"As early as 1984, the Maranello factory had begun development of an evolution model of the 288 GTO intended to compete against the 959, and possibly the Jaguar XJ220R, in FIA Group B. However, when the FIA brought an end to the Group B category for the 1986 season, Enzo was left with five 288 GTO Evoluzione development cars, and no series in which to campagin them. Enzo's desire to leave a legacy in his final supercar allowed the Evoluzione program to be further developed to produce a car exclusively for road use."
So basically the F40 program came about from a terminated FIA racing series. Many many high performance sports cars in the past have come about by extreme modification of lesser road cars. The F40 was certainly nothing new, and nothing unique.
The F50, on the other hand was definitely a unique piece of engineering, the likes of which the world will probably never see again.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F50
It was a road going Formula 1 car. That is a statement that many manufactures try to claim but rarely pull off. Ferrari did with the F50. First off, it actually used a modified Formula 1 engine. It's not Formula 1 "inspired" or anything like that, it was actually a modified version of the Ferrari F92 Formula 1 engine, actually built from the same block. It also was used in the amazing Ferrari 333SP race car before it came to the F50.
The drivetrain layout of the F50 was also directly taken from Formula 1, as well as the suspension design, the carbon fiber tub design, and the fact that the rear suspension was directly bolted to the transmission, and the fact that the engine and transmission are structural components of the car.
The F50 was, and still is the closest thing to a street legal Formula 1 car, the modern Enzo doesn't come close. To top it all off, the F50 is the most exclusive of the F40 F50 Enzo lineup. The F40, on the other hand, is by far the most common of the three.
I would have to go with the 550 maranello myself. love that car.
Although not the greatest the 550 Barchetta or 575 Superamerica might be my pick if I could choose any Ferrari.
Quote from: Raza on June 04, 2007, 12:44:49 PM
I think the most beautiful car ever made is this:
(http://images.google.com/url?q=http://home.comcast.net/~jonathan.bird/tutorial/246_dino.jpg&usg=AFQjCNEkmOXuEFrlE8O7UjZs5KD-QDGMNA)
I don't know if I would dare say that, but it's tempting to agree with you.
The Dino is technically a glorified Fiat, but I digress. It looks really cool, but why favorite?
Quote from: the Teuton on June 05, 2007, 12:02:25 AM
The Dino is technically a glorified Fiat, but I digress.? It looks really cool, but why favorite?
Bahhh!
Ferrari Dinos are Ferraris.
Fiat Dinos are Fiats.
Quote from: the Teuton on June 04, 2007, 01:24:57 PM
What about the 246 Dino makes it your favorite?
Look at it!
Quote from: 565 on June 04, 2007, 12:05:20 PM
Eh. I never liked the F40. I don't know why everyone goes so crazy for it. It's development was done on the 288GTO Evoluzione (which shares many of it's parts), which was just a hopped up version of the regular 288GTO, which itself was a hopped up version of the entry level 308GTB. I'd much rather have the F50, which was built as a road going formula car, with the suspension directly bolted the the transmission.
I am with you on this. I would pick the F50 anyday over the F40. I also think it is MUCH more attractive.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on June 05, 2007, 12:15:49 AM
Bahhh!
Ferrari Dinos are Ferraris.
Fiat Dinos are Fiats.
Fiat Dinos are Fiats.
Dino 208s and 308s after 1975 are Ferraris.
206s, 246s, 308s & 208s are Dinos.
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