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Re: The Detailing Thread
« Reply #870 on: August 11, 2019, 08:44:48 pm »
Jesus Christ, no. Isopropyl (rubbing) alcohol and a plastic razor blade. The alcohol will soften it up nicely.  Just not in the sun, 'cause it'll just evaporate.

Thanks, Iíll give that a try.  :ohyeah:

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« Reply #871 on: August 11, 2019, 08:51:49 pm »
Would clay take it off?

Clay is busy until at least next Saturday.

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« Reply #872 on: August 12, 2019, 07:15:42 pm »
Good news is, I didnít ruin the clear coat.  Bad news is, I didnít even remove the small scratches:





Not sure why went wrong.  I used Megs 2.0 mirror glaze and a light cut pad.  I used smooth, slow passes over the paint.  I didnít push too hard, but I did use some pressure.  Hmmph.

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« Reply #873 on: August 12, 2019, 07:42:41 pm »
You need to push harder, until it starts smoking. Maybe throw a handful of gravel in there, to cut in real deep.
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« Reply #874 on: August 12, 2019, 08:37:59 pm »
You need to push harder, until it starts smoking. Maybe throw a handful of gravel in there, to cut in real deep.

I have an angle grinder.  Will that work?

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« Reply #875 on: August 12, 2019, 08:39:05 pm »
I have an angle grinder.  Will that work?

Yes, that will really clean the paint off.
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« Reply #876 on: August 12, 2019, 08:53:27 pm »
Yes, that will really clean the paint off.

Nice

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« Reply #877 on: August 12, 2019, 10:02:25 pm »
That is a massive improvement.  I bet it looks great in natural sunlight, and those small spider webs will be unnoticable to the casual/consumer eye.

However.

Think of buffing like you do sanding wood.  To get the best finish, you start with 80 or 100 grit and end with 800 or 1,000...you can't expect to get the same results if you only start at the higher end.

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« Reply #878 on: August 13, 2019, 11:32:08 pm »
I never got around to finishing the polish.  My wife left the garage door open for several hours today.  I inspected the surface with my LED spotlight and it doesnít appear much dust made its way onto the surface.  Can I dust it with a cloth to remove any contaminates or do I have to wash the car again?

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« Reply #879 on: August 14, 2019, 03:09:29 am »
I never got around to finishing the polish.  My wife left the garage door open for several hours today.  I inspected the surface with my LED spotlight and it doesnít appear much dust made its way onto the surface.  Can I dust it with a cloth to remove any contaminates or do I have to wash the car again?

Yes, that should be just fine. Slightly dampen the cloth or use some spray detailer to aid in dust pickup. :ohyeah:

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« Reply #880 on: August 15, 2019, 08:39:00 pm »
From a few messages back:Semi-weekly = twice/week. Technically wrong to use bi-weekly for both.
But people still use it for both.

I agree that it should be incorrect to use "biweekly" to mean "twice per week," but every dictionary I've looked at lists both definitions, though Wiktionary tries to make a stronger distinction than the others I've seen in their usage notes. 

According to Merriam-Webster, that ambiguity has existed for nearly 150 years (https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/biweekly), and they elaborate on the distinction further here: https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/on-biweekly-and-bimonthly
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« Reply #881 on: August 16, 2019, 09:57:32 pm »


Pretty pleased with how this came out.  The fine scratches were much less noticeable in the sun than they were under my LED spotlights.  The scratch that prompted this paint correction is much less noticeable, though next time I think I would go with Meg's light cut (as they put it, a "5/10" on their cut scale) rather than the "3/10" swirl remover.

I tried the light cut polish to remove hard water marks but to no avail.  I'm going to have to try a more abrasive pad and compound.  Those goddamn stains just won't die.

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« Reply #882 on: August 16, 2019, 10:04:28 pm »
I don't see any water marks. :cheers:
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« Reply #883 on: August 16, 2019, 10:11:52 pm »
I don't see any water marks. :cheers:

lol.  On the last page (or a page before that) I posted a picture of them.

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« Reply #884 on: August 22, 2019, 09:12:32 am »
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« Reply #885 on: August 22, 2019, 09:21:03 am »
Next project:









This paint is in much more dire shape than the paint on the last car.  I have some Meg's professional fine cut polish; by their parlance a 5/10 on the 'cut scale'.  I only have a light cut pad at the moment and I'm going to stick to it for now.  I also have a bottle of Meg's medium (7/10 cut) polish.  Is that too aggressive or would I be safe using it with the light cut pad?

One more question about the sander.  This is the one I have: https://www.homedepot.com/p/Makita-3-Amp-5-in-Corded-Variable-Speed-Random-Orbital-Sander-with-Dust-Bag-BO5041/205671780?cm_mmc=Shopping%7CG%7CBase%7CD25T%7C25-9_PORTABLE+POWER%7CNA%7CLIA

Whenever I apply even moderate pressure, the pad seems to stop rotating, though it still vibrates a good deal.  Is this normal? 

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« Reply #886 on: August 22, 2019, 09:25:52 am »
Oh, and I used some of that fine cut polish and the pad to try and remove the water stains.  They wouldn't come off.  WTF?  I'm thinking 10mm Auto next.  That ought to work right?

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« Reply #887 on: August 22, 2019, 09:32:41 am »
This paint is in much more dire shape than the paint on the last car.  I have some Meg's professional fine cut polish; by their parlance a 5/10 on the 'cut scale'.  I only have a light cut pad at the moment and I'm going to stick to it for now.  I also have a bottle of Meg's medium (7/10 cut) polish.  Is that too aggressive or would I be safe using it with the light cut pad?

One more question about the sander.  This is the one I have: https://www.homedepot.com/p/Makita-3-Amp-5-in-Corded-Variable-Speed-Random-Orbital-Sander-with-Dust-Bag-BO5041/205671780?cm_mmc=Shopping%7CG%7CBase%7CD25T%7C25-9_PORTABLE+POWER%7CNA%7CLIA

Whenever I apply even moderate pressure, the pad seems to stop rotating, though it still vibrates a good deal.  Is this normal? 

Nah, you'd be fine using a medium cut with a light cut pad...won't get quite the same results as a heavier cut pad, but yeah.  Totally safe.  Diamond Cut (their 10/10 on the scale) is really quite good.  And also safe.  Makes quick work of stuff like that with a wool or heavy-cut foam pad.

And yes, that's the case with any random orbit polisher/sander, and that's part of what makes them so safe to use (the other part being that the random-orbit helps to not build up heat).  That's why I like my forced-action random orbit...I can apply pressure when I want/need to and it will not stop rotating or orbiting.

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« Reply #888 on: August 22, 2019, 09:45:44 am »
When it comes to applying pressure, you generally just want to let the tool do the work.  If you feel the need to always apply more than light pressure to get the results you desire, you're better off upping to a harder cut pad/compound to let them do the work.  Typically the weight of the tool is all I use, besides of course when you're doing side/vertical panels and you need to hold the tool to the paint.

Also hot damn, that thing does bare minimum 4k opm?  Make sure to keep it moving on the paint.  That thing is obviously...a sander.  And not a polisher, so it has really short, fast throws and not a whole lot of spin, whereas a random-orbit polisher will have longer throws and much more spin.  With sanding, you want to sand in straight lines, with the grain.  For paint, the spin is what does most of the work, the oscillations just help keep the work surface cooler.

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« Reply #889 on: August 22, 2019, 09:59:43 am »
Serves me right for listening to the idiot at HD.  Though to be fair there is a section in the manual that dosucces car polishing.

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« Reply #890 on: August 22, 2019, 10:06:01 am »
Serves me right for listening to the idiot at HD.  Though to be fair there is a section in the manual that dosucces car polishing.

Yeah, I mean, you can certainly use it for polishing and clearly it works.  Just not the "ideal" tool for the job, that's all.

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« Reply #891 on: August 22, 2019, 07:15:05 pm »
Two questions:

a.) can I use the same compound and pad to buff shiny black plastic trim?

b.) how should I ventilate when polishing?  The bottle warns of "chemicals linked to cancer" (the less aggressive compounds don't!).  Would a simple fan be enough?

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« Reply #892 on: August 23, 2019, 07:25:43 am »
a.) can I use the same compound and pad to buff shiny black plastic trim?

Perhaps?  Depends on the material.  Is it clear-coated?  Buffing compound is not meant for plastic trim.

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b.) how should I ventilate when polishing?  The bottle warns of "chemicals linked to cancer" (the less aggressive compounds don't!).  Would a simple fan be enough?

Nothing to worry about.  A fan is fine, just don't point it at the work surface because it'll cause it to dry out quicker.  I never worry about ventilation.  Haven't died yet. :huh: