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Subaru transitioning into Tesla?...
« on: January 31, 2019, 07:31:37 pm »
https://www.motortrend.com/news/2020-subaru-legacy-redesigned-large-touchscreen/

Copying the Tesla interior.  Article points out they're keeping a sedan too!
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« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2019, 07:35:54 pm »
Very interesting. Subaru has been behind the times with interiors/tech for some time now. But this might be a leap too far ahead
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« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2019, 07:47:24 pm »
Very interesting. Subaru has been behind the times with interiors/tech for some time now. But this might be a leap too far ahead

agree.

I saw it on FB and someone said "they couldn't do leather until yesterday and now they want to go all Tesla?"
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« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2019, 05:54:52 am »
Just as stupid as others replacing physical buttons with a distracting touch screen for everyday functions
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« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2019, 06:00:57 am »
I use Android Auto every day and it's not that bad

The most I do with my HVAC is change the temperature or turn defrost on/off. A well designed screen wouldn't make that too difficult.

Would be great if they made an app to let you program the HVAC for remote starts. A screen would enable that much easier than physical controls
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« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2019, 07:24:49 am »
Looks like there are still hard buttons for the HVAC actually.

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« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2019, 07:54:17 am »
Very interesting. Subaru has been behind the times with interiors/tech for some time now. But this might be a leap too far ahead

It took them awhile to get around to adding flashy infotainment, but EyeSight was pretty ahead of its time.
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« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2019, 07:22:56 pm »
Noooooooooooooooooooooooo

I hope it's an OLED, at least. Milky LCD consoles at night are gross.
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Re: Subaru transitioning into Tesla?...
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2019, 08:13:58 am »
More details were released yesterday: https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a26147950/2020-subaru-legacy-photos-info/

Very much an evolution of the current design, but looks quite a bit sharper. Excited that it gets the turbo-engine.

Car and Driver did a rendering of the Outback: https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a26236402/subaru-outback-confirmed-2020/

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« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2019, 11:21:56 am »
RIP H6
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« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2019, 11:33:09 am »
CVT only :(
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« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2019, 11:43:46 am »
CVT only :(

They haven't offered a manual in the Outback since the prior generation - 2014.
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« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2019, 11:45:49 am »
I know. Still sad about it.
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« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2019, 12:28:43 pm »
Curious about the XT's EPA numbers. Could be interesting when our current one gets long in the tooth
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« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2019, 12:48:27 pm »
Waiting to see that 2.4T in the WRX/STI.
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« Reply #15 on: February 09, 2019, 01:01:33 pm »
Waiting to see that 2.4T in the WRX/STI.

Yeah - having not really kept up with a lot of the auto industry over the past several years, I was surprised to learn the other day that the current WRX is still based on the previous generation Impreza, which is a pretty old car at this point.

This is probably wishful thinking, but maybe they'll throw it in the Forester too.
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« Reply #16 on: February 09, 2019, 06:15:00 pm »
If I had to pick I'd say they need to put it in the Crosstrek

After the WRX that's def the Subaru that needs it the most. Even more than the BRZ
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« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2019, 07:32:00 pm »
That'd be nice too, but according to MT, the Forester is even slower to 60 than the Crosstrek, and I very seriously doubt that they'd put it in the Crosstrek but not the Forester.
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Re: Subaru transitioning into Tesla?...
« Reply #18 on: February 09, 2019, 07:45:45 pm »
If I had to pick I'd say they need to put it in the Crosstrek

After the WRX that's def the Subaru that needs it the most. Even more than the BRZ

Agree, it's one of their hottest sellers. I follow Subie on FB and most comments are "can we get a turbo in the Crosstrek?"
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« Reply #19 on: February 09, 2019, 08:39:42 pm »
Don't get me wrong - a WRX powered Crosstrek is pretty much the exact thing I want to own. I just don't see it happening.
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« Reply #20 on: February 09, 2019, 09:24:21 pm »
It seems so weird to me that new sports cars are so fast and powerful but Subarus and cute utes are slow AF with weezy little hamster engines.
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Re: Subaru transitioning into Tesla?...
« Reply #21 on: February 09, 2019, 09:30:09 pm »
It seems so weird to me that new sports cars are so fast and powerful but Subarus and cute utes are slow AF with weezy little hamster engines.

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« Reply #22 on: February 10, 2019, 07:30:15 am »
That'd be nice too, but according to MT, the Forester is even slower to 60 than the Crosstrek, and I very seriously doubt that they'd put it in the Crosstrek but not the Forester.
Forester is selling like hotcakes so I'm guessing that market doesn't give AF about 0-60

Oddly enough I know a dude with a Forester XT... I'll ask him what's next when I see him
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« Reply #23 on: February 10, 2019, 09:17:59 am »
Forester is selling like hotcakes so I'm guessing that market doesn't give AF about 0-60

Oddly enough I know a dude with a Forester XT... I'll ask him what's next when I see him

It's not like the Crosstrek is a sales slouch though. It's increased its sales pretty significantly every year it's been out and nearly doubled base Impreza sales from 2018 (~76k units).

2018   - 144,384
2017   - 110,138
2016   - 95,677
2015   - 88,927
2014   - 70,956
2013   - 53.741
2012   - 7.396

(carsalesbase.com numbers)

I really hope both models get the new engine. I'd just be surprised if they skipped the Forester on the way to the Crosstrek.
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« Reply #24 on: February 11, 2019, 08:40:21 pm »
It's not like the Crosstrek is a sales slouch though. It's increased its sales pretty significantly every year it's been out and nearly doubled base Impreza sales from 2018 (~76k units).

2018   - 144,384
2017   - 110,138
2016   - 95,677
2015   - 88,927
2014   - 70,956
2013   - 53.741
2012   - 7.396

(carsalesbase.com numbers)

I really hope both models get the new engine. I'd just be surprised if they skipped the Forester on the way to the Crosstrek.

They essentially tripled sales volume from '13 to '18.

Need to rename it the CashTrek.
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« Reply #25 on: February 12, 2019, 07:07:11 am »
How many sales just ate into regular imprezza sales though?
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« Reply #26 on: February 12, 2019, 07:13:31 am »
You raise a good point r0tor but Impreza sales have climbed a bit over the same period

http://carsalesbase.com/us-car-sales-data/subaru/subaru-impreza/

Subaru has been killing it.... at significant cost
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« Reply #27 on: February 12, 2019, 11:14:20 am »
You raise a good point r0tor but Impreza sales have climbed a bit over the same period

http://carsalesbase.com/us-car-sales-data/subaru/subaru-impreza/

Subaru has been killing it.... at significant cost

Apparently it's popularity is why it can't get a better engine!

https://www.motortrend.com/news/subaru-says-crosstrek-popular-get-turbocharged-version
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« Reply #28 on: February 12, 2019, 11:23:41 am »
Subaru has been killing it.... at significant cost
Apparently it's popularity is why it can't get a better engine!

https://www.motortrend.com/news/subaru-says-crosstrek-popular-get-turbocharged-version

Those two things put together actually make a surprising amount of sense.
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« Reply #29 on: February 12, 2019, 11:27:36 am »
I didn't see anything in that Jalopnik article that really amounts to a "crisis".  They had a single recall and some employees were working a ton of overtime?  They're running full out at peak capacity, tons of overtime is expected.  The recall isn't necessarily correlated to running at peak capacity though.
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