Diesel Kicks Gas

Started by Eye of the Tiger, December 12, 2007, 06:41:39 PM

If  your current daily driver could be switched to run an equivalent diesel engine for free, would you do it? Or would you prefer to keep your gasoline engine?

I would convert to diesel
16 (53.3%)
I would keep my gas engine
11 (36.7%)
I already drive a diesel
3 (10%)

Total Members Voted: 28

Eye of the Tiger

Keep in mind that I'm asking about your daily-driver, not your fun weekend toy. But, if they are one and the same, that just makes it more interesting.



My vote: I would convert the Escort to diesel, no question about that. I think a diesel engine is so much more practical and efficient for a daily driver, while the abundance of low-end torque can make it even more fun for zipping around traffic at low speeds.

The Audi, as my fun "toy", would lose too much of it's character without that fine rev-happy gasoline V8. I wouldn't convert it.
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Raghavan

I would keep the gas engine because even though I really like diesel, there are barely any stations near my house that sell diesel and I'd have to go out of my way to fill it up.

The Pirate

I'd definitely go diesel, for many of the reasons you listed.

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Quote from: omicron on July 10, 2007, 10:58:12 PM
After you wake up with the sun at 6am on someone's floor, coughing up cigarette butts and tasting like warm beer, you may well change your opinion on this matter.

The Pirate

Quote from: Raghavan on December 12, 2007, 06:43:13 PM
I would keep the gas engine because even though I really like diesel, there are barely any stations near my house that sell diesel and I'd have to go out of my way to fill it up.


As the popularity of diesel increases, the number of stations that sell it will go up.
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Quote from: omicron on July 10, 2007, 10:58:12 PM
After you wake up with the sun at 6am on someone's floor, coughing up cigarette butts and tasting like warm beer, you may well change your opinion on this matter.

Eye of the Tiger

Quote from: Raghavan on December 12, 2007, 06:43:13 PM
I would keep the gas engine because even though I really like diesel, there are barely any stations near my house that sell diesel and I'd have to go out of my way to fill it up.

But you wouldn't have to fill up as much, so it really evens itself out in that respect.
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Raghavan

Quote from: The Pirate on December 12, 2007, 06:44:37 PM

As the popularity of diesel increases, the number of stations that sell it will go up.
I was assuming that there wouldn't be a big enough change for stations to start selling diesel, but if they did, I'd definitely switch.

Raghavan

Quote from: NACar on December 12, 2007, 06:45:16 PM
But you wouldn't have to fill up as much, so it really evens itself out in that respect.
More of a convenience issue rather than having to spend more fuel driving out to fill it up.

the Teuton

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Eye of the Tiger

Quote from: Raghavan on December 12, 2007, 06:46:55 PM
More of a convenience issue rather than having to spend more fuel driving out to fill it up.

Is it really that much further away to find a station with diesel? :confused:
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Soup DeVille

Quote from: Raghavan on December 12, 2007, 06:46:55 PM
More of a convenience issue rather than having to spend more fuel driving out to fill it up.

Look again: I'd bet that many of the gas stations around you do sell diesel, you've just never noticed.

I only know of a handful around here that don't.
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Raghavan

Quote from: NACar on December 12, 2007, 06:47:38 PM
Is it really that much further away to find a station with diesel? :confused:
The ones near my house don't sell diesel.
I'll have to look at others, but I rarely see a place selling diesel around here.

Eye of the Tiger

Quote from: Raghavan on December 12, 2007, 06:52:01 PM
The ones near my house don't sell diesel.
I'll have to look at others, but I rarely see a place selling diesel around here.

When you have to, it will be easier to find it than you think.
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the Teuton

Diesel is about 50 cents per gallon more expensive here, I think it would be worth it to double my MPG.
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Quote from: CJ on April 06, 2010, 10:48:54 PM
I don't care about all that shit.  I'll be going to college to get an education at a cost to my parents.  I'm not going to fool around.
Quote from: MrH on January 14, 2011, 01:13:53 PM
She'll hate diesel passenger cars, all things Ford, and fiat currency.  They will masturbate to old interviews of Ayn Rand an youtube together.
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Soup DeVille

About the only engines I've ever considered seriously for the Cadillac other than Caddy motors were some of the modern Pick-up truck diesels, like a Duramax.

That would be awesome.
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Eye of the Tiger

Quote from: Soup DeVille on December 12, 2007, 06:56:55 PM
About the only engines I've ever considered seriously for the Cadillac other than Caddy motors were some of the modern Pick-up truck diesels, like a Duramax.

That would be awesome.

What about the Si? Would you like to have a 1.6L turbo diesel VTAK!? :lol:
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Soup DeVille

Quote from: NACar on December 12, 2007, 07:01:26 PM
What about the Si? Would you like to have a 1.6L turbo diesel VTAK!? :lol:

No, but I did relish the thought of blowing voluminous clouds of black smoke all over dawdling Priusses whwnever I felt like it.
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Eye of the Tiger

Quote from: Soup DeVille on December 12, 2007, 07:02:59 PM
No, but I did relish the thought of blowing voluminous clouds of black smoke all over dawdling Priusses whwnever I felt like it.

Summoning giant black clouds at will is just one more advantage diesel engines have. :rockon:
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GoCougs

I despise diesels. I'd pay a significant premium NOT to drive one.

Raza

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MrH

It really depends on the specs of the diesel.  If it meant equivilant horsepower, more torque, and better gas mileage, then yeah, I'm all for it.

If it was something like a 1.6l diesel that made my car significantly slower, than no.
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Soup DeVille

Quote from: GoCougs on December 12, 2007, 07:15:11 PM
I despise diesels. I'd pay a significant premium NOT to drive one.

Yet another reason to buy one.
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Eye of the Tiger

Quote from: MrH on December 12, 2007, 10:22:13 PM
It really depends on the specs of the diesel.  If it meant equivilant horsepower, more torque, and better gas mileage, then yeah, I'm all for it.

If it was something like a 1.6l diesel that made my car significantly slower, than no.

By "equivalent", I think I meant equivalent in the sense that a diesel will have less horsepower, more torque and better economy. It may decrease the maximum performance of the vehicle, but in daily driving it might actually feel more powerful. It's hard to quantify in this context.
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93JC

I'd swap the 4.0 in the Jeep with a diesel when the 4.0 bites the dust (well, whenever it needs a major rebuild, anyway; I don't foresee it ever becoming irreparably damaged).

It's so torquey and loud it's like a gasoline engine masquerading as a diesel.

Raghavan

Quote from: 93JC on December 12, 2007, 10:31:30 PM
I'd swap the 4.0 in the Jeep with a diesel when the 4.0 bites the dust (well, whenever it needs a major rebuild, anyway; I don't foresee it ever becoming irreparably damaged).

It's so torquey and loud it's like a gasoline engine masquerading as a diesel.
I thought it already bit the dust?

Champ

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Quote from: NACar on December 12, 2007, 10:28:15 PM
By "equivalent", I think I meant equivalent in the sense that a diesel will have less horsepower, more torque and better economy. It may decrease the maximum performance of the vehicle, but in daily driving it might actually feel more powerful. It's hard to quantify in this context.

For me, the big thing (other than minimal loss of top-end power) is that the improved fuel economy would need to at least make up for the higher price of diesel. If it breaks even, then I would go diesel, because that would exempt me from CA smog tests :praise: and somewhere down the road, I could look at doing a veg oil conversion if I ever stumble upon a cheap steady source of used veg oil

SVT666

Switching from the Hemi to the Cummins?  I don't know.  Maybe.




Of course I would. :lol: