GT-R does 0-60 in...

[CJ]

3.3 bloody quick seconds. 

http://jalopnik.com/335556/leaping-lizards-edmunds-inside-line-claims-33-second-0+60-with-2009-nissan-gt+r



All I have to say is:  Hot damn.

[Raghavan]

Looking at those slalom videos, it looks like the car handles its weight really well.

[Champ]

Well it's not slow.

[CJ]

People are saying the Z06 is the performance bargain of the century, well...it just lost that title.

[Raghavan]

People are saying the Z06 is the performance bargain of the century, well...it just lost that title.

No, not really. The Z06 does it in ~3.5 seconds, so it's no slouch, plus the Z06 costs $65k, this will cost over $80k.

[Soup DeVille]

No, not really. The Z06 does it in ~3.5 seconds, so it's no slouch, plus the Z06 costs $65k, this will cost over $80k.

Not according to what I've been reading: it will cost between $55 and $60k.

[Eye of the Tiger]

Not according to what I've been reading: it will cost between $55 and $60k.

Then I'm buying one.

[Secret Chimp]

I would pay the extra $15,000 to have this thing over a V8 strapped to an oxcart with sticky tires.

[LonghornTX]

I don't know, I feel at ~100k, the new ZR-1 may be even more of a bargain than the 80k GT-R.  But then a light weight version of the GT-R might push that the other way....Oh well, I give up.

[Secret Chimp]

I just watched the video again and some other ones - why is this thing so quiet?

[the Teuton]

Will this car be seriously marked up?  You bet your bottom Yen it will.

[nickdrinkwater]

Glad we don't have 'mark-ups' here then!

[the Teuton]

Glad we don't have 'mark-ups' here then!

You also don't get to negotiate prices, either, and you pay a lot more than we do even with the markups, which kinda sucks, but it I think we still get the better end of the deal.  What is minimum wage in England, though?

[565]

Holy crap,

11.6 at 121 mph. 

The best Edmunds ever got out of the Z06 was 12.0 at 121.8 mph.

It's down 32hp and heavier by 700 pounds.  The amount of underrating must be extreme.  In order to match the Z06's power to weight ratio the GTR needs to make 617 hp.


Best of all it's not a Nissan provided machine, they found a privately owned example that's hardly broken in.

[ChrisV]

Holy crap,

11.6 at 121 mph. 

The best Edmunds ever got out of the Z06 was 12.0 at 121.8 mph.

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/12/05/10-second-stock-c6-corvette-z06-on-run-flats/

[ifcar]

ChrisV, I think you missed a part of his post:

The best Edmunds ever got out of the Z06 was 12.0 at 121.8 mph.

Edmunds tends to get slower acceleration times than most other reviewers. Apples to oranges.

[FlatBlackCaddy]

A dual clutch transmission with lauch control sending power to all the wheels means it doesn't have to have the power to weight of a Z06 to match the initial acceleration figures. The Z06 is sure to overtake after the 1/4 mile.

I'm sure there will be minimal cross shopping with the corvette(and vice versa).

[omicron]

A dual clutch transmission with lauch control sending power to all the wheels means it doesn't have to have the power to weight of a Z06 to match the initial acceleration figures. The Z06 is sure to overtake after the 1/4 mile.

I'm sure there will be minimal cross shopping with the corvette(and vice versa).

Why is that?

[FlatBlackCaddy]

Why is that?

Seriously.....

[omicron]

Seriously.....

I'd gladly cross-shop a GTR with a Z06, and I don't see why others wouldn't.

[Secret Chimp]

I'd gladly cross-shop a GTR with a Z06, and I don't see why others wouldn't.

Most Corvette buyers are retired fat guys.

[SVT_Power]

I can't stop staring at your sig there chimp

[omicron]

Most Corvette buyers are retired fat guys.

I would like to buy a Corvette and immediately change this demographic.

[FlatBlackCaddy]

I'd gladly cross-shop a GTR with a Z06, and I don't see why others wouldn't.

Sorry, i thought you were disputing the first half of my post.

I just don't think they will be shopped by most of the people looking to buy either one of these cars, they are for the most part very different machines.

I'd wager that 80-90% of corvette sales go to corvette people(vette owners for several years) or GM people in general(wanted a vette all their life). Very few(20% or less) are casual sports car buyers that end up in a vette.

The GTR would have the same scenario, i'm guessing most of the GTR buyers will be people coming from modified imports or a few looking to get 911(or german) performance at a fraction of the price.

The GTR is technology packed, its performance is obtained through a complex drivetrain(compared to a N/A V8) and offers high performance while still offering luxury items for daily driving.

The corvette is every bit a daily driver as the GTR is, though the lack of AWD and a rear seat will give it the image of being a weekend toy.

Plenty of people daily drive their vettes, but most don't have to. Most corvette owners(just about all up north) bought the vette as a weekend toy or track car. I'm sure alot of the GTR will be the only car for the purchaser. They will see DD duty even in some snowy climates.

Just my thought on it, i see the two having completely different buyers. I know in my area for every 300 corvettes i see(maybe alittle less) i see maybe 2 or 3 with someone under 40 behind the wheel, most are 50 or above. I'm willing to bet the GTR will pull in much younger buyers.

[SVT_Power]

I'm willing to bet the GTR will pull in much younger buyers.

Even if the vette costs 40k and the GT-R is supposed to cost somewhere around 70-80k?

[FlatBlackCaddy]

Even if the vette costs 40k and the GT-R is supposed to cost somewhere around 70-80k?

Yes, look at the age of imported R32/33/34 buyers. Those were going for 50-80K and that was for a USED car.

There are people out there in their late 20's early 30's with 30K 350Z's dumping 20-30K in performance mods on them.

The money's there and this is a car that interests them.

[Tave]

Yes, look at the age of imported R32/33/34 buyers. Those were going for 50-80K and that was for a USED car.

There are people out there in their late 20's early 30's with 30K 350Z's dumping 20-30K in performance mods on them.

The money's there and this is a car that interests them.

But those people are now 15-20 years older...

[omicron]

Sorry, i thought you were disputing the first half of my post.

I just don't think they will be shopped by most of the people looking to buy either one of these cars, they are for the most part very different machines.

I'd wager that 80-90% of corvette sales go to corvette people(vette owners for several years) or GM people in general(wanted a vette all their life). Very few(20% or less) are casual sports car buyers that end up in a vette.

The GTR would have the same scenario, i'm guessing most of the GTR buyers will be people coming from modified imports or a few looking to get 911(or german) performance at a fraction of the price.

The GTR is technology packed, its performance is obtained through a complex drivetrain(compared to a N/A V8) and offers high performance while still offering luxury items for daily driving.

The corvette is every bit a daily driver as the GTR is, though the lack of AWD and a rear seat will give it the image of being a weekend toy.

Plenty of people daily drive their vettes, but most don't have to. Most corvette owners(just about all up north) bought the vette as a weekend toy or track car. I'm sure alot of the GTR will be the only car for the purchaser. They will see DD duty even in some snowy climates.

Just my thought on it, i see the two having completely different buyers. I know in my area for every 300 corvettes i see(maybe alittle less) i see maybe 2 or 3 with someone under 40 behind the wheel, most are 50 or above. I'm willing to bet the GTR will pull in much younger buyers.

I should have better indicated what part to which I was referring. My fault.

I've seen enough market research data to believe that perceptions of buyer profiles are often highly misleading. Similarly, I live in a country in which Corvettes and new Skyline GT-Rs are bought by people with greater wealth than equivalent US buyers - a Z06 is far more accessible to US buyers than it is to Australian buyers given import, conversion and compliance costs, for example. As a result, my perception of Corvette buyers is probably skewed from the US norm. Lucky you and your cheap performance cars!

For example, I'd estimate that in Australia there are comparably and proportionally far fewer younger buyers with the capacity to spend MSRP for a GT-R or Z06 than there are in in the US.

The fundamentals remain the same, however - a Nissan GT-R buyer is not necessarily different to a Corvette Z06 buyer. It would be wrong, for example, for Nissan to produce highly-targeted marketing efforts towards individuals who, as you describe, express desires for more technologically-advanced, better-quality performance cars than a comparable Corvette. Certainly, these people require attention, but not at the expense of wider appeal for the car. I for one would gladly shop a pushrod RWD GM thunderbox against a high-tech Japanese AWD microchip, and it would be dangerous for Nissan or Chevrolet to believe that their respective buyer profiles are explicitly split between the two.

[FlatBlackCaddy]

But those people are now 15-20 years older...

How do you figure that, i'm talking about the importation and legalization of japanese skylines by companies in the US. This just started(and boomed) around 5-7 years ago. Alot of those people that bought them were in their late 20's iirc.

[Tave]

How do you figure that, i'm talking about the importation and legalization of japanese skylines by companies in the US. This just started(and boomed) around 5-7 years ago. Alot of those people that bought them were in their late 20's iirc.

My mistake. I thought they were importing them in the late 80s, early 90s.