Hummer HX concept. Future H4?

[2o6]

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/01/08/detroit-2008-hummer-hx-concept/


I love it.

[TheIntrepid]

What new ugly car DON'T you love?

[2o6]

What new ugly car DON'T you love?

The Camry.

[TheIntrepid]

The Camry.

Touch?

[Raghavan]

That looks badass!

[SJ_GTI]

Not a vehicle I would ever buy, but it does look pretty cool.

[etypejohn]

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/01/08/detroit-2008-hummer-hx-concept/


I love it.

Who is the hell is designing these things?  Tonka?  What a f*cking joke. 

[Submariner]

It's actually kinda cool.

[the Teuton]

I really like it.  I hope it has solid front and rear axles like the Wrangler.

[TheIntrepid]

Who is the hell is designing these things?  Tonka?  What a f*cking joke. 

For once I agree with this guy

[etypejohn]

For once I agree with this guy

You should agree more often.  Doing so will make you right more often.   

Now that I think about it all non-military Hummers are rather cartoonish.  Factory Art Cars!!

[TheIntrepid]

You should agree more often.  Doing so will make you right more often.   

Sorry, I didn't know ChrisV took over your account.

[the Teuton]

I like it.  It's supposed to be eccentric and ugly.  If you want a beautiful off-roader, buy a...well, I really can't think of any that are both competent and good-looking.  Maybe the Range Rover Sport?

[TheIntrepid]

I like it.  It's supposed to be eccentric and ugly.  If you want a beautiful off-roader, buy a...well, I really can't think of any that are both competent and good-looking.  Maybe the Range Rover Sport?

The Sport is shit off-road. The proper Range Rover on the other hand, is another story

[etypejohn]

Sorry, I didn't know ChrisV took over your account.

there would not have been smilies had he written that.

[TheIntrepid]

there would not have been smilies had he written that.

[Rich]

Turns out that one of the designers on the HX was one of my roomates my sophomore year of college

[Tave]

I like it. I think it looks like a great alternative to the Wrangler.

[the Teuton]

Turns out that one of the designers on the HX was one of my roomates my sophomore year of college

That's kinda cool.

[ChrisV]

Who is the hell is designing these things?  Tonka?  What a f*cking joke. 

Oh, they must've forgot that offroad vehicles are supposed to look like E types and Ferraris.

I like it in a modern dune buggy sort of way.

[ChrisV]

The Sport is shit off-road.

It's not as bad as you might think. I've posted pictures that refute your statement.

[Tave]

It's not as bad as you might think. I've posted pictures that refute your statement.

I've seen one of those. I'd be interested to know if the rims made it back safetly to pavement.


I think most people would agree 20" wheels equiped with low-profile tires aren't ideal for off-road duty.


Hell, I could have posted a picture of the Aveo tackling rocks in July, and another one of the damaged front bumper in August. Just because you can off-road a vehicle doesn't mean you should.

In the words of Chris rock:

"Just because you can do something doesn't mean it's to be done. Hell, I could drive a car with my feet if I wanted to, but that don't make it a good fuckin idea"

[SVT666]

That thing would suck off-road without a spotter.  The driver can't see out of it.  Stupid POS.

[Catman]

Looks neat.

[Rupert]

From the link:

"With its compact dimensions, almost no overhangs and grippy 35-inch tires, the HX is ready for all terrains. Like all HUMMER production models, the HX has sturdy, body-on-frame construction, onto which is mounted front and rear independent suspensions."

Front and rear IS, eh?

[the Teuton]

I wonder if the IRS will see production and what kind of travel the wheels will have.

[SVT666]

From the link:

"With its compact dimensions, almost no overhangs and grippy 35-inch tires, the HX is ready for all terrains. Like all HUMMER production models, the HX has sturdy, body-on-frame construction, onto which is mounted front and rear independent suspensions."

Really?

[ChrisV]

I've seen one of those. I'd be interested to know if the rims made it back safetly to pavement.


I think most people would agree 20" wheels equiped with low-profile tires aren't ideal for off-road duty.


Hell, I could have posted a picture of the Aveo tackling rocks in July, and another one of the damaged front bumper in August. Just because you can off-road a vehicle doesn't mean you should.

In the words of Chris rock:

"Just because you can do something doesn't mean it's to be done. Hell, I could drive a car with my feet if I wanted to, but that don't make it a good fuckin idea"

The point is, Land Rovers are designed around offroading first, then modified for on road use, and have been since the first ones. Even the sport. No, the 20" wheels aren't the best at doing offroad work, but to say they "suck" is hyperbole of the worst sort, since I've seen them go offroad (and remember, rock climbing is not the ONLY fiorm of offroading there is.. Driving throuigh the jungles of Belize is a valid form of offroading, and even the 20" wheels have proven to work fine out there...). Would I buy an $80k new car and go offroading? Probably not, but it's nice to know it CAN. Much like the Range Rover I have NOW (which has gotten quite dirty at times, itself). iv'e gone offroading in a number of vehicles, but I've never been rock climbing with them, nor do I have a desire to. Crawling over big rocks in't the sum total of offroading, nor does it even need to be done at all to be going offroad.














Again, the point isn't that you should or shouldn't but that it CAN because it was designed to to start with.

[Mak450]

Really?

I think its just poorly worded, they mean the body on frame is common to hummers, but not the idependant suspension.

[SVT666]

The point is, Land Rovers are designed around offroading first, then modified for on road use, and have been since the first ones. Even the sport. No, the 20" wheels aren't the best at doing offroad work, but to say they "suck" is hyperbole of the worst sort, since I've seen them go offroad (and remember, rock climbing is not the ONLY fiorm of offroading there is.. Driving throuigh the jungles of Belize is a valid form of offroading, and even the 20" wheels have proven to work fine out there...). Would I buy an $80k new car and go offroading? Probably not, but it's nice to know it CAN. Much like the Range Rover I have NOW (which has gotten quite dirty at times, itself). iv'e gone offroading in a number of vehicles, but I've never been rock climbing with them, nor do I have a desire to. Crawling over big rocks in't the sum total of offroading, nor does it even need to be done at all to be going offroad.

I agree, however you take those same Land Rovers and stick 16" wheels with higher profile tires and they would have had an easier time doing everything they did with the 20s.  20" wheel are not ideal for offroading unless you wrap them with larger tires.  Personally I would never use anything bigger then 17" wheels on a vehicle I would be using for offroading.