Dodge Challenger caught showing EVERYTHING

[LonghornTX]

I honestly can't remember which one it is, but I think the Gallardo shares the same basic platform as the Continental GT, Phaeton, and A8.  But it could be the Murcielago.  Those are the only two options. 

There is no way.  The Lambos are both mid-engines while the A8, CGT, and Phaeton are front engined.  Plus, I would think the Lambos are significantly wider (well, I know the Murci is ).  I think you might be misremembering.

[MX793]

Is 964 the Boxster?  I think it's very short of gorgeous.  But I like the Camaro. (if it turns out like the concept, anyway)

It's good we have different tastes or life would be boring.

964 was the generation of 911 immediately preceding the 993.  Ran from the late 80 into the early 90s.  The Boxster is the 986 or 987 depending on which generation.

[MX793]

I honestly can't remember which one it is, but I think the Gallardo shares the same basic platform as the Continental GT, Phaeton, and A8.  But it could be the Murcielago.  Those are the only two options. 

Gallardo may borrow drivetrain bits from some of those other cars, but is not on the same or even a related platform.  The closest VWAG relative to the Gallardo is the R8, and even that is quite a bit different.

[Raza]

Is 964 the Boxster?  I think it's very short of gorgeous.  But I like the Camaro. (if it turns out like the concept, anyway)

It's good we have different tastes or life would be boring.

964 is the generation of 911 before the 993, made between 1989 and 1993, I believe.




The Boxster generations are 986 (the first generation) and 987 (the generation that I have).

[Raza]

Gallardo may borrow drivetrain bits from some of those other cars, but is not on the same or even a related platform.  The closest VWAG relative to the Gallardo is the R8, and even that is quite a bit different.

There is no way.  The Lambos are both mid-engines while the A8, CGT, and Phaeton are front engined.  Plus, I would think the Lambos are significantly wider (well, I know the Murci is ).  I think you might be misremembering.

Interesting term.  I must be thinking of some ill-fated concept. 

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

No, more because I don't think the Camaro will translate into a good looking production car.  Sure, the concept car looks stunning, but it does so with useless side mirrors and something like 22' wheels.  I think that the car will either suffer the fate of wearing stupidly heavy, big wheels or look very large and bloated without them.  The belt line is too high for me and the interior looks to be way too retro for even my tastes.

Of course, I will reserve final judgement for when I see the final car IRL.

The mules I've seen look close to concept but we'll just have to wait an see. 

[LonghornTX]

The mules I've seen look close to concept but we'll just have to wait an see. 

For sure, I never settle judgement until I actually see the car with my own eyes.

[JYODER240]

Is 964 the Boxster?  I think it's very short of gorgeous.  But I like the Camaro. (if it turns out like the concept, anyway)

It's good we have different tastes or life would be boring.

The 964 is the predecesor to the 993.

[CALL_911]

Is 964 the Boxster?  I think it's very short of gorgeous.  But I like the Camaro. (if it turns out like the concept, anyway)

It's good we have different tastes or life would be boring.

No, 964 is the 2nd to last gen of the air-cooled 911's.


As for Boxsters, 986 is the 1st gen and 987 is the 2nd gen.

[LonghornTX]

To move this thread back on topic, some recently discovered interior shots:



I personally am not impressed.

[CJ]

WHY, Chrysler, WHY DID YOU USE THAT STEERING WHEEL?

[FlatBlackCaddy]

chrysler......

pretty much irrelevant to me at this point.

wake me for the funeral.

[Raza]

No, 964 is the generation of 911 before the 993.

Anyone else want to drive that home?

[Rich]

Do people not read before responding?  That was rediculous, 5 posts with the same answer

[CALL_911]

No, 964 is the generation of 911 before the 993.

Anyone else want to drive that home?

What, the 964? HELL YES.

[FordSVT]

No, 964 is the 2nd to last gen of the air-cooled 911's.

Also the last 911 that one could compare to a swinging hammer in the corners. Porsche really reigned in the tail of the 993, probably for the better. You didn't need to be a pro to drive one fast but if you were a great driver you could still get the most out of the rear engine configuration.

And Chrysler used that steering wheel and a lot of the other components on the Charger to keep the costs down. If it wasn't 7/10th a Charger sedan they wouldn't be able to afford to make it.

[Cookie Monster]

Those windows look tiny!

[Raza]

Also the last 911 that one could compare to a swinging hammer in the corners. Porsche really reigned in the tail of the 993, probably for the better. You didn't need to be a pro to drive one fast but if you were a great driver you could still get the most out of the rear engine configuration.

And Chrysler used that steering wheel and a lot of the other components on the Charger to keep the costs down. If it wasn't 7/10th a Charger sedan they wouldn't be able to afford to make it.

964 is still my favorite.

[CALL_911]

Also the last 911 that one could compare to a swinging hammer in the corners. Porsche really reigned in the tail of the 993, probably for the better. You didn't need to be a pro to drive one fast but if you were a great driver you could still get the most out of the rear engine configuration.

And Chrysler used that steering wheel and a lot of the other components on the Charger to keep the costs down. If it wasn't 7/10th a Charger sedan they wouldn't be able to afford to make it.

The 993 GT2 was like that, as was the 993 Carrera RS. But both were ?ber rare, and not sold here. Plus, the GT2 was race-spec.

[FordSVT]

My great uncle owned a 92 Porsche 964 RS America until 1995. It was only one of like, 50 or so delivered to Canada and one of only two in the Maritimes. It was light blue. It wasn't totally stripped down like the Euro version, but it still had no power steering and a pull strap to open the door. He did spring for air but no sunroof, the only other non-performance option available. It's still the fastest car I've ever driven in, at about 165 mph indicated, which I think was pretty much flat out. Only had about 250 hp, but they were light and slippery.

He passed away about five years ago, his son (who is 60) is an executive in Calgary and drives a 2006 Cayenne Turbo. I doubt anyone who engineered that RS had a clue that in just ten years they might be working on a 450 hp SUV. 

[Raza]

My great uncle owned a 92 Porsche 964 RS America until 1995. It was only one of like, 50 or so delivered to Canada and one of only two in the Maritimes. It was light blue. It wasn't totally stripped down like the Euro version, but it still had no power steering and a pull strap to open the door. He did spring for air but no sunroof, the only other non-performance option available. It's still the fastest car I've ever driven in, at about 165 mph indicated, which I think was pretty much flat out. Only had about 250 hp, but they were light and slippery.

He passed away about five years ago, his son (who is 60) is an executive in Calgary and drives a 2006 Cayenne Turbo. I doubt anyone who engineered that RS had a clue that in just ten years they might be working on a 450 hp SUV. 

Holy shit.  Where's the car now?

[FordSVT]

Holy shit.  Where's the car now?

I have no idea to be honest. He sold the car to a guy who lived in Nova Scotia and I never saw it again.

He was very proud of it, something about it having a real cup body instead of fake parts? Can't remember, I'm no Porsche expert and I was 18 at the time. He'd never owned a Porsche before, but he'd owned an E-Type and a couple of MGs so he had a thing for European sports cars. He wasn't a racer or anything, but he appreciated the bare minimum and he liked a light car. Though he did own a 1960-something Bentley. The man who bought that car from him brought it to his funeral, it's the only time I saw it in person. It was jade green with a tan interior, beautiful car. It was an S1/S2/S3, Something like this. Classy.