Hummer H3T

Started by 2o6, January 25, 2008, 10:42:38 PM

Byteme

Quote from: J86 on January 28, 2008, 04:15:11 PM
Bah, mid 90s family sedans work fine for towing small boats :lol:

I towed a 2500 pound Glastron and trailer for 3 years with a 2.8L 5 speed Camaro.   

SVT666

Quote from: Byteme on January 28, 2008, 05:39:07 PM
I towed a 2500 pound Glastron and trailer for 3 years with a 2.8L 5 speed Camaro.   
:lol: That's awesome.

ChrisV

Quote from: Sean on January 28, 2008, 05:00:30 PM
I would have to say that the H2 is no more capable on the Platte river than a Suburban, a pickup, or even a geo tracker....
Who wants a story? :lol:

I'll give you stories, too. The H2 uses GMT800 2500 series HD suspension and frame, with actually 2 thirds of the frame unique to the H2. The TCS also provides new-for-GM capabilities, including the ability to gain traction through a single wheel, if necessary. A new feature controlled through a separate driver control switch is the TC2 function. This provides for more wheel slip in the traction control mode for sand and desert racing conditions. Its extremely short overhangs, including a 32.6-inch front overhang and 34.6-inch rear overhang provide high approach and departure angles, allowing H2 to drive right into a hole and out again without getting hung up in front or rear. all components were packaged flush with or above the frame rails. This provides better protection during underbody impacts. It also allows the vehicle to slide over obstacles more easily on the frame rail or rocker protection.
The TCS also provides new-for-GM capabilities, including the ability to gain traction through a single wheel, if necessary. A new feature controlled through a separate driver control switch is the TC2 function. This provides for more wheel slip in the traction control mode for sand and desert racing conditions. Its extremely short overhangs, including a 32.6-inch front overhang and 34.6-inch rear overhang provide high approach and departure angles, allowing H2 to drive right into a hole and out again without getting hung up in front or rear. all components were packaged flush with or above the frame rails. This provides better protection during underbody impacts. It also allows the vehicle to slide over obstacles more easily on the frame rail or rocker protection. It's designed to go offroad MUCH better than it's 4x4 truck siblings.

"The H2's front shocks contain unique features for off-road performance. They have a large, high-strength 40mm center tube and a secondary integral bump stop feature, which allows them to absorb jolts at two junctures. Full-size trucks typically have only one urethane front jounce bumper. When severe bumps push the suspension toward the frame, it acts like a final cushion to protect the suspension from hitting the frame. The H2 also has a secondary jounce bumper built into the shock. So, rather than taking all the load at the bump stop attached to the frame rail, it takes some of the load with the shock's built-in bump stop, slowing the suspension's travel before it hits its final cushion."

The problem people who sit around armchair-quarterbacking the H2 have usually centers around the twin facts that the H2 was designed to be more comfortable inside than the H1, and that most buyers won't use them for actual offroading. That does not negate the fact that the H2 was in fact designed from the ground up to go where there are no roads.

In fact, a lot of owners DO take them seriously offroad.

http://www.elcova.com/h2/cad5.jpg
http://www.elcova.com/h2/cad2.jpg












I love that last picture, it's a happy H2!
Like a fine Detroit wine, this vehicle has aged to budgetary perfection...

omicron



That picture does amuse me greatly. Heads ahoy!

Mak450

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Quote from: ChrisV on January 30, 2008, 06:08:36 AM
I'll give you stories, too. The H2 uses GMT800 2500 series HD suspension and frame, with actually 2 thirds of the frame unique to the H2. The TCS also provides new-for-GM capabilities, including the ability to gain traction through a single wheel, if necessary. A new feature controlled through a separate driver control switch is the TC2 function. This provides for more wheel slip in the traction control mode for sand and desert racing conditions. Its extremely short overhangs, including a 32.6-inch front overhang and 34.6-inch rear overhang provide high approach and departure angles, allowing H2 to drive right into a hole and out again without getting hung up in front or rear. all components were packaged flush with or above the frame rails. This provides better protection during underbody impacts. It also allows the vehicle to slide over obstacles more easily on the frame rail or rocker protection.
The TCS also provides new-for-GM capabilities, including the ability to gain traction through a single wheel, if necessary. A new feature controlled through a separate driver control switch is the TC2 function. This provides for more wheel slip in the traction control mode for sand and desert racing conditions. Its extremely short overhangs, including a 32.6-inch front overhang and 34.6-inch rear overhang provide high approach and departure angles, allowing H2 to drive right into a hole and out again without getting hung up in front or rear. all components were packaged flush with or above the frame rails. This provides better protection during underbody impacts. It also allows the vehicle to slide over obstacles more easily on the frame rail or rocker protection. It's designed to go offroad MUCH better than it's 4x4 truck siblings.

"The H2's front shocks contain unique features for off-road performance. They have a large, high-strength 40mm center tube and a secondary integral bump stop feature, which allows them to absorb jolts at two junctures. Full-size trucks typically have only one urethane front jounce bumper. When severe bumps push the suspension toward the frame, it acts like a final cushion to protect the suspension from hitting the frame. The H2 also has a secondary jounce bumper built into the shock. So, rather than taking all the load at the bump stop attached to the frame rail, it takes some of the load with the shock's built-in bump stop, slowing the suspension's travel before it hits its final cushion."

The problem people who sit around armchair-quarterbacking the H2 have usually centers around the twin facts that the H2 was designed to be more comfortable inside than the H1, and that most buyers won't use them for actual offroading. That does not negate the fact that the H2 was in fact designed from the ground up to go where there are no roads.

In fact, a lot of owners DO take them seriously offroad.

http://www.elcova.com/h2/cad5.jpg
http://www.elcova.com/h2/cad2.jpg



I've been saying that for years

MX793

Anyone remember this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxrdwXXat14

There's a reason why the greatest rock-crawlers aren't 6500 lb behemoths.
Needs more Jiggawatts

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Soup DeVille

Fuck y'all.

I like it. I need no reason other than that.
Maybe we need to start off small. I mean, they don't let you fuck the glumpers at Glumpees without a level 4 FuckPass, do they?

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Tave

Quote from: MX793 on January 30, 2008, 05:47:15 PM
Anyone remember this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxrdwXXat14

There's a reason why the greatest rock-crawlers aren't 6500 lb behemoths.

Meh, for anything I'd ever do to it, the H2 would be almost perfect off-road (and I would beat the piss out of it). I wouldn't get it, but it wouldn't be because of stuff like that.
As I write, highly civilized human beings are flying overhead, trying to kill me.

Quote from: thecarnut on March 16, 2008, 10:33:43 AM
Depending on price, that could be a good deal.

SVT666

Quote from: Tave on January 30, 2008, 10:06:17 PM
Meh, for anything I'd ever do to it, the H2 would be almost perfect off-road (and I would beat the piss out of it). I wouldn't get it, but it wouldn't be because of stuff like that.
I've been in one offroad and you can't see out of it.  You need a spotter for stuff you normally wouldn't.

Tave

Quote from: HEMI666 on January 31, 2008, 07:53:39 AM
I've been in one offroad and you can't see out of it.  You need a spotter for stuff you normally wouldn't.

Right, that'd be one reason. It's also too wide for some of my favorite trails.
As I write, highly civilized human beings are flying overhead, trying to kill me.

Quote from: thecarnut on March 16, 2008, 10:33:43 AM
Depending on price, that could be a good deal.

Sean

hold on, I need to find my pictures

2o6

Quote from: Sean on January 28, 2008, 05:00:30 PM
I would have to say that the H2 is no more capable on the Platte river than a Suburban, a pickup, or even a geo tracker....
Who wants a story? :lol:


The Geo Tracker is awesome offroad.

Tave

As I write, highly civilized human beings are flying overhead, trying to kill me.

Quote from: thecarnut on March 16, 2008, 10:33:43 AM
Depending on price, that could be a good deal.

Sean

Quote from: 2o6 on January 31, 2008, 07:14:25 PM

The Geo Tracker is awesome offroad.


the FWD based Geo minisuv was teh tracker, right?
hold on, I need to find my pictures

MX793

Quote from: Sean on February 01, 2008, 04:28:37 PM

the FWD based Geo minisuv was teh tracker, right?

The Chevy/Geo Tracker was a rebadged Suzuki SUV and was a real SUV, not FWD car-based like most mini-utes.
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2o6

Quote from: Sean on February 01, 2008, 04:28:37 PM

the FWD based Geo minisuv was teh tracker, right?

I've explained this before.


The Tracker is RWD, Body-on-frame, and a Suzuki Rebadge.

Soup DeVille

Quote from: Sean on February 01, 2008, 04:28:37 PM

the FWD based Geo minisuv was teh tracker, right?

The Geo Tracker was the rebadged Suzuki Sidekick, which was the follow-up to the Samurai: which actually was a genuine kick-ass little four wheeler.
Maybe we need to start off small. I mean, they don't let you fuck the glumpers at Glumpees without a level 4 FuckPass, do they?

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TheIntrepid

Quote from: 2o6 on January 31, 2008, 07:14:25 PM

The Geo Tracker is awesome offroad.

Yes, I'm sure it is. :confused:


2004 Chrysler Intrepid R/T Clone - Titanium Graphite [3.5L V6 - 250hp]
1996 BMW 325i Convertible - Brilliant Black [2.5L I6 - 189hp]

2o6

Quote from: TheIntrepid on February 01, 2008, 08:15:49 PM
Yes, I'm sure it is. :confused:




Do the same thing in a CR-V.


The Tracker/Sidekick is nothing to mess with.

TheIntrepid

Quote from: 2o6 on February 01, 2008, 08:17:14 PM

Do the same thing in a CR-V.

That? I could do that in my Caravan. :rolleyes:

2004 Chrysler Intrepid R/T Clone - Titanium Graphite [3.5L V6 - 250hp]
1996 BMW 325i Convertible - Brilliant Black [2.5L I6 - 189hp]

2o6


Soup DeVille

Maybe we need to start off small. I mean, they don't let you fuck the glumpers at Glumpees without a level 4 FuckPass, do they?

1975 Honda CB750, 1986 Rebel Rascal (sailing dinghy), 2015 Mini Cooper, 2020 Winnebago 31H (E450), 2021 Toyota 4Runner, 2022 Lincoln Aviator

TheIntrepid


2004 Chrysler Intrepid R/T Clone - Titanium Graphite [3.5L V6 - 250hp]
1996 BMW 325i Convertible - Brilliant Black [2.5L I6 - 189hp]

Soup DeVille

Quote from: TheIntrepid on February 01, 2008, 08:27:13 PM
Maybe if I had the AWD version..

Look at the approach angle again. Look at how much higher ther front left tire is than the right rear.
Maybe we need to start off small. I mean, they don't let you fuck the glumpers at Glumpees without a level 4 FuckPass, do they?

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TheIntrepid

Quote from: Soup DeVille on February 01, 2008, 08:28:57 PM
Look at the approach angle again. Look at how much higher ther front left tire is than the right rear.

Mine handles AWD adventures just fine :lol:



edit: Check out dem SilverStarz, yo

2004 Chrysler Intrepid R/T Clone - Titanium Graphite [3.5L V6 - 250hp]
1996 BMW 325i Convertible - Brilliant Black [2.5L I6 - 189hp]

Soup DeVille

Quote from: TheIntrepid on February 01, 2008, 08:36:06 PM
Mine handles AWD adventures just fine :lol:



edit: Check out dem SilverStarz, yo

I drive through crap like that in a Civic on summer tires.
Maybe we need to start off small. I mean, they don't let you fuck the glumpers at Glumpees without a level 4 FuckPass, do they?

1975 Honda CB750, 1986 Rebel Rascal (sailing dinghy), 2015 Mini Cooper, 2020 Winnebago 31H (E450), 2021 Toyota 4Runner, 2022 Lincoln Aviator

Eye of the Tiger

Quote from: TheIntrepid on February 01, 2008, 08:36:06 PM
Mine handles AWD adventures just fine :lol:



edit: Check out dem SilverStarz, yo

they're just regular stupid wheels. nobody cares. dammit, could you be any more lame? :rolleyes:
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TheIntrepid

Quote from: NACar on February 01, 2008, 08:38:45 PM
they're just regular stupid wheels. nobody cares. dammit, could you be any more lame? :rolleyes:

What wheels? Our van doesn't have snow tires..

2004 Chrysler Intrepid R/T Clone - Titanium Graphite [3.5L V6 - 250hp]
1996 BMW 325i Convertible - Brilliant Black [2.5L I6 - 189hp]

Cookie Monster

Quote from: TheIntrepid on February 01, 2008, 08:17:36 PM
That? I could do that in my Caravan. :rolleyes:
Plz tell me you're kidding.
RWD > FWD
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sandertheshark

WHERE'S THE 350HP VORTEC 3500 I5 TURBO FROM THE HT3 CONCEPT FOUR YEARS AGO!?!?