Tire question

Started by 280Z Turbo, January 30, 2008, 11:25:46 PM

280Z Turbo

As some of you know, I utterly destroyed one of the rims on my Focus a month ago over a pothole. The tire shop replaced my rim and when they went to remount my tire found it would not hold air. Not a big problem except that Kelly tire no longer makes the Evo Z all season in 205/50/16. Also not a big problem but the tire they (not I) chose to match it with is a 300 tread wear rating Riken Raptor summer tire.

Basically, the car has very spooky driving characteristics in the snow now. Braking makes the rear end kick to one side, it oversteers like a RWD car and it just plain doesn't have enough grip.

I have to decide whether I want to keep the bad tire on there for the rest of the winter, replace the one summer tire with an all season, get another summer tire for L/R balance, or replace all 4 early. The other 3 still have quite a bit of life left in them, so I'm not sure I want to buy $300 tires now.

Soup DeVille

You might try just having the summer tire siped as a stopgao measure.
Maybe we need to start off small. I mean, they don't let you fuck the glumpers at Glumpees without a level 4 FuckPass, do they?

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The Pirate

Buy two all season tires.  You'll have all seasons on all 4 corners, and a matching set on each axle.
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After you wake up with the sun at 6am on someone's floor, coughing up cigarette butts and tasting like warm beer, you may well change your opinion on this matter.

Pancor

So you hit a pothole hard enough to fuck your rim, but thought the tire would be ok?  :huh: :lol:

280Z Turbo

Quote from: Pancor on January 31, 2008, 05:57:45 AM
So you hit a pothole hard enough to fuck your rim, but thought the tire would be ok?  :huh: :lol:

That makes me dumb? :huh: The tire shop didn't know either.

The tire had no visible damage. The blister must have been small.

JYODER240

I'll keep an eye out at work for any all-season tires in that size. If by chance we take some off a car with decent tread left i'll keep them and if you want to pay for the shipping you can have them.
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280Z Turbo

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Quote from: JYODER240 on January 31, 2008, 09:16:10 AM
I'll keep an eye out at work for any all-season tires in that size. If by chance we take some off a car with decent tread left i'll keep them and if you want to pay for the shipping you can have them.

Thanks.

I'm going to check around locally. I'll see what the tire shops and salvage yards have.

I was too afraid to drive the car today because of all the close calls I had yesterday.

Sean

I has solution:
BURNOUTS!!!! :lol:
then get 4 new tires
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280Z Turbo

You will not find a surface dry enough around here for that for a long time.

Cookie Monster

Drive around with the handbrake on to make the rears bald, then swap them to the front and repeat? :mask: :lol:
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Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
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280Z Turbo

Quote from: thecarnut on January 31, 2008, 06:21:37 PM
Drive around with the handbrake on to make the rears bald, then swap them to the front and repeat? :mask: :lol:

That would just burn up my rear shoes. :nutty:

I have $50 in my bank account right now. I don't need an excuse to get new tires as I won't getting them anyway. I'll have to go used. Come Fall, I'll pick up 4 new Kumho ASX's.

Soup DeVille

Quote from: 280Z Turbo on January 31, 2008, 06:24:29 PM
That would just burn up my rear shoes. :nutty:

I have $50 in my bank account right now. I don't need an excuse to get new tires as I won't getting them anyway. I'll have to go used. Come Fall, I'll pick up 4 new Kumho ASX's.

If only they were 205/55/15s that you needed: I'd send two michelin A/S MXV4s to you for the cost of shipping
Maybe we need to start off small. I mean, they don't let you fuck the glumpers at Glumpees without a level 4 FuckPass, do they?

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280Z Turbo

Hell, I'd just come and pick them up. It's not that far.

Soup DeVille

Quote from: 280Z Turbo on January 31, 2008, 06:29:45 PM
Hell, I'd just come and pick them up. It's not that far.

It's supposed to snow tonight though...
Maybe we need to start off small. I mean, they don't let you fuck the glumpers at Glumpees without a level 4 FuckPass, do they?

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280Z Turbo

Doesn't matter anyway.

I actually have 4 205/70/14s sitting around in my shed. If I could find some 14" Escort rims, I'd have a silly looking, albeit effective set of tires!

Pancor

Quote from: 280Z Turbo on January 31, 2008, 09:16:06 AM
That makes me dumb? :huh: The tire shop didn't know either.

The tire had no visible damage. The blister must have been small.

No, but all the energy required to destroy the rim went through the tire, so I wouldn't expect it to be ok. 

Pancor

Quote from: 280Z Turbo on January 31, 2008, 06:32:29 PM
Doesn't matter anyway.

I actually have 4 205/70/14s sitting around in my shed. If I could find some 14" Escort rims, I'd have a silly looking, albeit effective set of tires!

The Focus uses a 4X108mm pattern, while all but the early 80's Escorts used 4X100.  205/70R14 is also significantly larger than the stock Focus 185/65R14.  If it did clear the struts, you woudn't be able to turn very sharply!

280Z Turbo

Quote from: Pancor on January 31, 2008, 08:51:54 PM
The Focus uses a 4X108mm pattern, while all but the early 80's Escorts used 4X100.  205/70R14 is also significantly larger than the stock Focus 185/65R14.  If it did clear the struts, you woudn't be able to turn very sharply!

Err...the stock size is 205/50/16. 4x108 was used on the Escort from 81-90. 205/70/14 is probably too big, but it might work.

Looks like Contour would work too.

280Z Turbo

Quote from: Pancor on January 31, 2008, 08:47:54 PM
No, but all the energy required to destroy the rim went through the tire, so I wouldn't expect it to be ok. 

Tires are made out of rubber. Rubber can flex.

Cookie Monster

Quote from: 280Z Turbo on January 31, 2008, 09:38:26 PM
Err...the stock size is 205/50/16. 4x108 was used on the Escort from 81-90. 205/70/14 is probably too big, but it might work.

Looks like Contour would work too.
SVT Contour Cobra R wheels that Ed has would look awesome!
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Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
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2 4 R

280Z Turbo

Quote from: thecarnut on January 31, 2008, 09:40:03 PM
SVT Contour Cobra R wheels that Ed has would look awesome!

:rolleyes:

I'm talking about cheap (or free) winter wheels. Pay attention, son!

Cookie Monster

Quote from: 280Z Turbo on January 31, 2008, 09:41:06 PM


:rolleyes:

I'm talking about cheap (or free) winter wheels. Pay attention, son!
Canada isn't that far away and Ed doesn't use his car... :devil:
You get free tires with it too!
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Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
1 3 5
├┼┤
2 4 R

280Z Turbo

Quote from: thecarnut on January 31, 2008, 09:48:08 PM
Canada isn't that far away and Ed doesn't use his car... :devil:
You get free tires with it too!

Hey, that's not such a bad idea. :lol: