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[Raza]

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And all you guys complaining about this (Raza and Trep mainly) are lazier than I thought.

It's not laziness!  It's not falling for a gimmick that's going eventually fail.  I said I see the point of a fully keyless system, that doesn't mean I want one.  I'm perfectly fine with reaching into my pocket and turning a key.  It's that a half keyless starter system is retarded.  That's the fucking problem.

[CALL_911]

Would that actually turn you off from a BMW?

And after having owned a BMW for a while, it'd become second nature. You wouldn't even think about it anymore.

I don't want to know how you would've acted before the days of keyless entry. "I have to insert a key and twist it too? Oh spare me!"

Exactly.

[CALL_911]

It's not laziness!  It's not falling for a gimmick that's going eventually fail.  I said I see the point of a fully keyless system, that doesn't mean I want one.  I'm perfectly fine with reaching into my pocket and turning a key.  It's that a half keyless starter system is retarded.  That's the fucking problem.

Those keyless setups don't work half the time in my experience, homie. My friends parents need like 5 tries to start their M35, and another friend's parent complains like shit about how Keyless Go doesn't let her go until she repeatedly tries.

[Raza]

It's not that hard, people!  Seriously!  If you think about the benefits of not having a conventional key, ie. battery dying and getting jabbed in the leg with the key, then it works.  By putting the key in it charges the battery.  It's also a rectangle, so it won't jab your leg when in certain position.  It could also be seen as an anti-theft devide.

With a conventional key, or even a switchblade, if the battery of the key dies, you still have...what's that called...A KEY, that you can use to get into the car and start it, and then get out and lock it.  It's a silly gimmick.

[CALL_911]

With a conventional key, or even a switchblade, if the battery of the key dies, you still have...what's that called...A KEY, that you can use to get into the car and start it, and then get out and lock it.  It's a silly gimmick.

Same with the BMW key. There is a key which is detachable. You can still start the car once you get in. You lose.

[Raza]

Those keyless setups don't work half the time in my experience, homie. My friends parents need like 5 tries to start their M35, and another friend's parent complains like shit about how Keyless Go doesn't let her go until she repeatedly tries.

I've used Keyless Go a few times and it's always worked.  Maybe your friend's parents are just morons.  And like I already said, I don't want one of those systems anyway.

What, did reading comprehension on this board just completely go away?

[CALL_911]

I've used Keyless Go a few times and it's always worked.  Maybe your friend's parents are just morons.  And like I already said, I don't want one of those systems anyway.

What, did reading comprehension on this board just completely go away?

No, but we have a hatred for bullshit arguments.

[Raza]

Same with the BMW key. There is a key which is detachable. You can still start the car once you get in. You lose.

There is a mechanical key in the BMW key fob?

[CALL_911]

There is a mechanical key in the BMW key fob?

Yeah.

[Champ]

Same with the BMW key. There is a key which is detachable. You can still start the car once you get in. You lose.

Have you actually tried it?  Every BMW (a lot) I have driven it doesn't work.

It only opens the door.

People always try to give them to me and tell me it's the valet key.  I have to get in the car and show them it doesn't work for them to just give me the whole fob.

[Raza]

No, but we have a hatred for bullshit arguments.

You're the one making the bullshit argument, fuckhead.  I said it was a stupid gimmick, and you say "OMG, no, BMW hav it so it iz gud!"  You never once said that it was better than a standard key function and then you went in on this fully keyless thing, which isn't the basis of my argument anyway.  You fixate on one thing and then sound like a moron arguing a point that I'm not arguing.

[Raza]

Have you actually tried it?  Every BMW (a lot) I have driven it doesn't work.

It only opens the door.

People always try to give them to me and tell me it's the valet key.  I have to get in the car and show them it doesn't work for them to just give me the whole fob.

Ah, it's a valet key in the sense that the Smartkey's mechanical key is a valet key.  You lock the glovebox and trunk with it, and then keep it, and give the valet the fob.  You're right, it does not start the engine.

[Champ]

You're the one making the bullshit argument, fuckhead.  I said it was a stupid gimmick, and you say "OMG, no, BMW hav it so it iz gud!"  You never once said that it was better than a standard key function and then you went in on this fully keyless thing, which isn't the basis of my argument anyway.  You fixate on one thing and then sound like a moron arguing a point that I'm not arguing.

Just remember, BMW is king at changing things that don't need changing.

Take a look at their STUPID turn signal system now....

[CALL_911]

Have you actually tried it?  Every BMW (a lot) I have driven it doesn't work.

It only opens the door.

People always try to give them to me and tell me it's the valet key.  I have to get in the car and show them it doesn't work for them to just give me the whole fob.

Hold on, they give you the mechanical key? They're supposed to take the mechanical key out, and give you the rest of the key. Basically, if the battery dies, you unlock the car using the mechanical key, and then use the regular fob to start the car with. The battery recharges in the ignition.

[Submariner]

Those keyless setups don't work half the time in my experience, homie. My friends parents need like 5 tries to start their M35, and another friend's parent complains like shit about how Keyless Go doesn't let her go until she repeatedly tries.

Keyless go has worked flawlessly, every time.  Perhaps she should get it checked out. 

[CALL_911]

Ah, it's a valet key in the sense that the Smartkey's mechanical key is a valet key.  You lock the glovebox and trunk with it, and then keep it, and give the valet the fob.  You're right, it does not start the engine.

That's the same system with BMW.

[CALL_911]

Keyless go has worked flawlessly, every time.  Perhaps she should get it checked out. 

That's what I told her to do.

[CALL_911]

Just remember, BMW is king at changing things that don't need changing.

Take a look at their STUPID turn signal system now....

Stupid turn signal?

[TheIntrepid]

Yeah.

Ok just stop. The detachable key doesn't start the engine, in ANY of these cars. It just unlocks the doors.

[Submariner]

Ah, it's a valet key in the sense that the Smartkey's mechanical key is a valet key.  You lock the glovebox and trunk with it, and then keep it, and give the valet the fob.  You're right, it does not start the engine.

Thats what I thought.  The (mechanical) key can even open the doors, though, it can't start the car.

[Champ]

Yep people don't really understand how it is supposed to work.

[CALL_911]

Ok just stop. The detachable key doesn't start the engine, in ANY of these cars. It just unlocks the doors.

Please read on. Thanks!

[Champ]

Ok just stop. The detachable key doesn't start the engine, in ANY of these cars. It just unlocks the doors.

Infiniti's system has a key hole to start the car if your fob dies.

[Raza]

Just remember, BMW is king at changing things that don't need changing.

Take a look at their STUPID turn signal system now....

And let's not forget the mother of all things unnecessary, the iDrive system.  Buttons are good.  Buttons are simple.  Buttons do what they're told without accessing a submenu.

[TheIntrepid]

Stupid turn signal?

If it's anything like the VW system it's kinda annoying. Halfway press the stalk for 3 flashes.

[CALL_911]

Yep people don't really understand how it is supposed to work.

Yeah, no doubt.

[TheIntrepid]

Infiniti's system has a key hole to start the car if your fob dies.

Yeah but who was talking about Infiniti? (FWIW I didn't know that )

[Champ]

Stupid turn signal?

Have you ever used the new BMW turn signals?  They don't operate like a conventional signal, which has worked great for over 90? years...

Push down to turn left, stalk returns to "home" position.  Signal stays on.  Push down again to turn it off.

[CALL_911]

If it's anything like the VW system it's kinda annoying. Halfway press the stalk for 3 flashes.

Well, it is. I don't really see how that's annoying, but hey, different strokes for different folks. The Audi has the same system.

[Raza]

Yep people don't really understand how it is supposed to work.

I was reading a question in Momentum, and it was about a flashing yellow triangle and then the car not accelerating like the driver expected it to.

90% of luxury car owners don't know shit about their cars.