GTR Merged Thread (2013 GT-R specs/video, 545hp, revised chassis, sub 7:20 Ring)

[SVT32V]

I have come around on the GT-R.  For the first year or so I actually hated it, but I have slowly done a 180 and I would buy one if I could afford it.

x2, yeah in the beginning the hype was overly annoying and detracted from the car, now I think its just awesome beyond words.

[SVT666]

x2, yeah in the beginning the hype was overly annoying and detracted from the car, now I think its just awesome beyond words.

The hype was warranted in other words.

[Raza]

The hype was warranted in other words.

Yes.  In light of overly computerized and AWD hatchback Ferraris, the GT-R looks more and more like the bargain of the century.  I no longer feel the need to compare it to the Porsche 911 Turbo; they're different cars, both awesome for different reasons.


And I dare say that the GT-R even looks better than the current crop of Ferraris.

[Submariner]

Yes.  In light of overly computerized and AWD hatchback Ferraris, the GT-R looks more and more like the bargain of the century.  I no longer feel the need to compare it to the Porsche 911 Turbo; they're different cars, both awesome for different reasons.


And I dare say that the GT-R even looks better than the current crop of Ferraris.

No, it still looks terrible.

A guy two minutes down the road from me has a GTR and a 430 SC (which replaced a Viper ACR) - the 430 isn't as elegant as the 360, but it blows the GTR away in the looks department. 

Mighty impressive none the less, but a GT3 RS seems so much more...awesome. 

[sportyaccordy]

It's a great achievement for sure but I just can't connect with it emotionally. Call me superficial or w/e but I just can't get past the looks or exhaust note. And its performance is far from accessible on the street

[Raza]

No, it still looks terrible.

A guy two minutes down the road from me has a GTR and a 430 SC (which replaced a Viper ACR) - the 430 isn't as elegant as the 360, but it blows the GTR away in the looks department. 

Mighty impressive none the less, but a GT3 RS seems so much more...awesome. 

The current Ferraris look worse. 

[hotrodalex]

The current Ferraris look worse. 

I don't know, the 458 'vert looks pretty sexy. Other than the price difference, I like it more than the GT-R. Not that I would turn down either.

[sportyaccordy]

The current Ferraris look worse. 

I think detail wise all the Ferraris & the GT-R are pretty garish and overly technical.

But the Ferraris at least have sports car shapes. The GT-R has ugly details AND the general profile of a Maxima. AND it sounds like a vacuum cleaner.

If the only goal is to go fast then it is king. But I think everyone will agree that there is more to driving enjoyment than just going fast.

[SVT32V]

It's a great achievement for sure but I just can't connect with it emotionally. Call me superficial or w/e but I just can't get past the looks or exhaust note. And its performance is far from accessible on the street

All VQ engines sound like shit, this one is no worse or maybe even better with the turbos squelching some of the braying and allowing it not to have to rev to the moon.

One doesn't have to be at 9/10ths or 10/10ths to appreciate a cars virtues in everytday driving, having an all weather car that just blows the doors off of everything and still costs less than 6 figures seems like a great combination to me.

Just a simple low 4 sec/hi 3 sec launch every few days from the old stoplight would make draw a smile from ear to ear.

Then it is not like you have to suffer in everyday driving, the car is by all accounts comfortable.

[SVT666]

I think detail wise all the Ferraris & the GT-R are pretty garish and overly technical.

But the Ferraris at least have sports car shapes. The GT-R has ugly details AND the general profile of a Maxima. AND it sounds like a vacuum cleaner.

If the only goal is to go fast then it is king. But I think everyone will agree that there is more to driving enjoyment than just going fast.

According to road tests the car is quite engaging and a lot of fun.

[GoCougs]

GT-R sounds mega beastly in person.

[Raza]

I don't know, the 458 'vert looks pretty sexy. Other than the price difference, I like it more than the GT-R. Not that I would turn down either.

The 458 is gross.  It looks like a stinkbug. 

[sportyaccordy]

According to road tests the car is quite engaging and a lot of fun.

I'm sure it is, but it still doesn't look or sound great IMO, which is a big part of the appeal of driving to me

[S204STi]

Sounds fine to me.  Nothing quite beats a flat-plane V8, but there are certainly worse sounding engines.  Like a Honda inline-4.

[sportyaccordy]

Sounds fine to me.  Nothing quite beats a flat-plane V8, but there are certainly worse sounding engines.  Like a Honda inline-4.

Pretty funny considering a flat plane V8 is essentially 2 four bangers sharing a crank. Even more funny considering when you consider that one half the displacement of Ferrari's contemporary V8s are right in line with the sizes of Honda's contemporary 4 bangers. I hope you are not of the unequal length exhaust manifold camp, because that would just split my sides

*EDIT* Also I was talking about the GT-R's engine, which sounds like vacuum cleaner. Ferrari's V8s define good sound. They even made a turbocharged engine sound good

[S204STi]

No, I'm in the camp that appreciates good exhaust noise, and the GT-R would, IMO, fall somewhere in the middle between Porsche flat-6/Ferrari V8 (sort of a tie for me), and ass-ripping Honda with a Folgers can exhaust.

[sportyaccordy]

Seriously, this is worth the extra $150K.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDekeCbqWJI

[sportyaccordy]

O yea this Honda sounds like ass, how could anyone get used to this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkAFTYoyK2U#t=1m34

[S204STi]

Umad

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

And its performance is far from accessible on the street

The same can be said about your EX650R.............

All VQ engines sound like shit, this one is no worse or maybe even better with the turbos squelching some of the braying and allowing it not to have to rev to the moon..

True! But I sure someone makes a nice exhaust system for the GT-R!

[S204STi]

I'd personally use every bit of that power every day just merging with and flowing through traffic on the interstate.

[sportyaccordy]

The same can be said about your EX650R.............

A motorcycle's size enables it to take advantage of performance on the street in ways this spaceship can't. Plus even with its weedwhacker motor my bike still sounds better 

[68_427]

Sounds fine to me.  Nothing quite beats a flat-plane V8, but there are certainly worse sounding engines.  Like a Honda inline-4.

A flat plane LS1 is super sexxy awesomeness.

[68_427]

O yea this Honda sounds like ass, how could anyone get used to this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkAFTYoyK2U#t=1m34

Actually the stock S2000 sounds better.  IMO

[SVT_Power]

In a city about an hour away there are some less desirable places to live, but still nothing I would call the "hood".  Vancouver has some shitty places that would definitely use that term to describe them, but that's about 3.5 hours from here.  I have still yet to go anywhere in Canada (outside of the Lower East Side in Vancouver) where people have bars on their windows like I've seen in some US cities like SF, LA, SD, and Seattle.  I'm sure there are places like that in Toronto, but I've never seen them.

I don't know about that. I haven't really explored the crummy parts of Toronto, but from what I've seen there aren't any bars on windows anywhere...

[Tave]

I think the GT-R has a lot of road presence and sounds great.

[GoCougs]

Yeah, I'm not sure where all this criticism of the exhaust note is coming from. Gotta hear one in the flesh.

[hotrodalex]

A flat plane LS1 is super sexxy awesomeness.

Can't say I've ever heard one of those. Seems like it would be awesome, though.

[68_427]

Can't say I've ever heard one of those. Seems like it would be awesome, though.

Sounds just like a Ferrari pretty much.  LPE has one running with a turbo.  N/A it was pushing out about 620hp at 9000RPM, but in '99-'00 they had one running over 10,500RPM.

[Onslaught]

I think the GT-R has a lot of road presence and sounds great.

Me too. It's not a car I love or would really even want. But I respect the shit out of it and can't understand the hate at all. It's one of the best cars made today I think.

And I also think they sound good too.