Cooper S JCW or Clubman S?

[CJ]

Which would you rather have?

This is a 2006 JCW Cooper S with 11,000 miles and it's in immaculate condition.  It has the premium and sport packages, as well as the JCW package and the aero kit.  It has black LEATHER, a rear foglight, and the anthracite wheels, which are $2,000 I believe.  The price?  Around $27,000 for a once $36,000 car.  His dad says that he's ready to sell it when we're ready to buy.




OR a brand new Clubman S like this:

 
My 2008 MINI Cooper S Clubman
Base MSRP* $23,450
Destination & Handling $650
 
paint
Silver Rear C-Pillar Trim  $0
Dark Silver Body Color  $500
Body Color Roof/Mirrors  $0
White Turn Signals  $100
 
package
Premium Package  $1,500
         10-Speaker. Hi-Fi Sound System 
         Automatic AC 
         Dual Pane Panoramic Sunroof 
Cold Weather Package  $500
         Heated Powerfold Mirrors & Washer Jets 
         Heated Front Seats 
Convenience Package  $1,500
         Comfort Access System 
         Leather Sport Wheel w/Multifunction 
         Comfort Bluetooth with USB/iPod Adapter 
         Universal Garage Door Opener 
         Auto Dimming Rear View Mirror 
         Rain Sensor and Auto Headlamps 
         Center Arm Rest 
 
performance
Dynamic Stability Control  STD
6-Speed Getrag Manual  STD
Front Fog Lamps  STD
Rear Fog Lamp  $100
Xenon Headlamps w/Power Wash  $500
17" 5-Star Pace (Perf. Run Flats)  $750
 
cockpit
Sport Seats  STD
Cloth: Checkered Carbon Black/Black  $0
Interior Surface English Oak  $250
On-Board Computer  STD
 
TOTAL MSRP AS CONFIGURED* $29,800
 
accessory**
Side Scuttle - Union Jack (installation not incl.)  $166
Union Jack Mirror Caps (installation not incl.)  $130
Driving lamps (installation not incl.)  $510
 
TOTAL ACCESSORIES ** $806
TOTAL MSRP AS CONFIGURED* $29,800
 
TOTAL COMBINED $30


Which would you choose?

[Soup DeVille]

In all honesty, I don't know why anybody would buy a Clubman S for any reason.

[CJ]

Well, we really like the Clubman and it's basically down to these two cars for my dad's next car.  My dad actually likes the Clubman more than I do.

[Raza]

JCW by far.

[Soup DeVille]

Well, we really like the Clubman and it's basically down to these two cars for my dad's next car.  My dad actually likes the Clubman more than I do.

A standard clubman you could make a case for: but a loaded S I don't think you really can. Even giving copius points for preferences, there are just so many better vehicles for that price.

The standard Mini S, well, there's an appeal there that's enough to make up for the price, but you get one without illusions to it's being a practical car. The clubman looks like it's more practical, but really isn't that much.

[CJ]

We're test driving one tomorrow if the dealership isn't full, which it shouldn't since we'll be there around noon.  The Clubman really is a lot more practical than the regular S.  It has so much more room.

[Soup DeVille]

We're test driving one tomorrow if the dealership isn't full, which it shouldn't since we'll be there around noon.  The Clubman really is a lot more practical than the regular S.  It has so much more room.

But not nearly as much room as a dozen other $30,000 cars that would also outperform it. There's the problem as I see it.

Minis are cool becasue they're, well: mini. Make them less mini, and they've lost that appeal.

[Raza]

Get your father to drive a GTI.

[Cookie Monster]

JCW

[CJ]

Get your father to drive a GTI.

I asked him if he wanted to drive one a LONG time ago, but he declined.

[CJ]

I'm all for going through the customization of your OWN MINI.  A MINI built to YOUR specifications, but that JCW is a darn good deal.  We'll see...

[Cookie Monster]

I'm all for going through the customization of your OWN MINI.  A MINI built to YOUR specifications, but that JCW is a darn good deal.  We'll see...

$27k for a used compact car is never a good deal.

[CJ]

$27k for a used compact car is never a good deal.

It's a JCW, though.  It was originally like...$35,000. 

[Eye of the Tiger]

It's a JCW, though.  It was originally like...$35,000. 

What was also not a good deal. 

[CJ]

What was also not a good deal. 

They have 3 of the darn things, and two of them are going away as they placed an order for an Audi A5.  This is one of the ones they're selling.

[Cookie Monster]

What was also not a good deal. 

+1
Who in their right mind would pay that much for a FWD compact when you could have a 328Ci?
I wouldn't pay more than $22k for an S. And I'd rather have an Si sedan.

[Eye of the Tiger]

They have 3 of the darn things, and two of them are going away as they placed an order for an Audi A5.  This is one of the ones they're selling.

What does that have to do with whether a $35,000 Mini is worth the price? If anything, it just shows how much money they can throw around.

[Cookie Monster]

CJ, why the hell would they have over $100,000 in Minis?

[Soup DeVille]

CJ, why the hell would they have over $100,000 in Minis?

They must like then a little bit, you think?

[CJ]

CJ, why the hell would they have over $100,000 in Minis?

Beats me.  One's his brothers, this is his dads, and their convertible is his moms.  It's not my decision, so don't ask me.

[CJ]

They must like then a little bit, you think?

Just a tad. 

[Soup DeVille]

I think BMW is insane to charge $133 for union jack mirror caps when any decent pinstriper would gladly paint a better looking pair for cheaper than that. Then again, it's not really about how it looks, is it?

[SVT666]

Clubman?  It's ugly.

[TheIntrepid]

CJ, why the hell would they have over $100,000 in Minis?

People do strange things

[Vinsanity]

I like the chocolate brown interior in the Clubman. Too bad it's not available on the other Minis.

What upgrades entail the JCW package anyways?

[TheIntrepid]

JCW, imo. The Clubman looks like ass.

[Tave]

My 2008 MINI Cooper S Clubman
Base MSRP* $23,450
Destination & Handling $650
 
paint
Silver Rear C-Pillar Trim  $0
Dark Silver Body Color  $500
Body Color Roof/Mirrors  $0
White Turn Signals  $100
 
package
Premium Package  $1,500
         10-Speaker. Hi-Fi Sound System 
         Automatic AC 
         Dual Pane Panoramic Sunroof 
Cold Weather Package  $500
         Heated Powerfold Mirrors & Washer Jets 
         Heated Front Seats 
Convenience Package  $1,500
         Comfort Access System 
         Leather Sport Wheel w/Multifunction 
         Comfort Bluetooth with USB/iPod Adapter 
         Universal Garage Door Opener 
         Auto Dimming Rear View Mirror 
         Rain Sensor and Auto Headlamps 
         Center Arm Rest 
 
performance
Dynamic Stability Control  STD
6-Speed Getrag Manual  STD
Front Fog Lamps  STD
Rear Fog Lamp  $100
Xenon Headlamps w/Power Wash  $500
17" 5-Star Pace (Perf. Run Flats)  $750
 
cockpit
Sport Seats  STD
Cloth: Checkered Carbon Black/Black  $0
Interior Surface English Oak  $250
On-Board Computer  STD
 
TOTAL MSRP AS CONFIGURED* $29,800 $26,850
 
accessory**
Side Scuttle - Union Jack (installation not incl.)  $166
Union Jack Mirror Caps (installation not incl.)  $130
Driving lamps (installation not incl.)  $510
 
TOTAL ACCESSORIES ** $806 $0
TOTAL MSRP AS CONFIGURED* $29,800 $26,850
 
TOTAL COMBINED $30 $26,850

First of all, I would do that.

Which would you choose?

JCW

[Tave]

Why oh Why do you want rear fog lamps?

[CJ]

Why oh Why do you want rear fog lamps?

So there's a complete set of toggle switches...and they look so cool.  Also, when we get fog, it's seriously thick.  The last time we had fog was last week, and you couldn't see the Integra from the front windows of my house. 

[NomisR]

MINIS!!!!!