Porsche working on Golf-based model for 2012

Started by akuma_supreme, June 06, 2008, 11:45:30 PM

TBR

If water cooling has diluted the 911 then so did turbochargers and AWD.

2o6

Quote from: TBR on June 10, 2008, 04:21:55 PM
If water cooling has diluted the 911 then so did turbochargers and AWD.


I can see it now.....UP! based 911. Seats four, rear-engined, and more "pure" than the current one. Call it the 901 (Get permission from Peugeot) like it was supposed to be in the first place.

Payman

Quote from: 2o6 on June 10, 2008, 04:38:45 PM

I can see it now.....UP! based 911. Seats four, rear-engined, and more "pure" than the current one. Call it the 901 (Get permission from Peugeot) like it was supposed to be in the first place.


Seats 4? Screw that. 2 seater!

Raza

Quote from: Vinsanity on June 09, 2008, 09:38:11 PM
Ah, I completely forgot that the VW Up! had a rear engine drivetrain :ohyeah: Any word on the development status?

My VW guy saying that they're hoping for a late 09 intro as a 10 model.  But, he could be blowing smoke up my ass, since he says his reps don't give any concrete information on it.
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Quote from: 2o6 on June 10, 2008, 04:38:45 PM

I can see it now.....UP! based 911. Seats four, rear-engined, and more "pure" than the current one. Call it the 901 (Get permission from Peugeot) like it was supposed to be in the first place.

Actually, that's not as crazy as it sounds.  It couldn't be called a 911, though.  But a reincarnated 356 based on the UP! platform would certainly take Porsche back to it's roots.  Do a retro-styled Speedster version and watch 'em fly out the doors of Porsche showrooms all over the world!

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omicron

Quote from: akuma_supreme on June 10, 2008, 03:29:59 PM
They were Europe's answer to the GM B-Bodies- only up to three times as costly, and with more brittle construction.

And with far fewer awesome points.

Madman

Quote from: omicron on June 10, 2008, 11:49:15 PM
And with far fewer awesome points.

C'mon, just try and tell me the Ferrari V8 powered Lancia Thema 8.32 wasn't awesome!




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Yawn


omicron

Quote from: Madman on June 11, 2008, 05:10:23 AM
C'mon, just try and tell me the Ferrari V8 powered Lancia Thema 8.32 wasn't awesome!




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Very true.

The list of B-body cars here, however, has me coming over all a-quiver, and taller lying down than standing up.

Vinsanity

Quote from: Madman on June 10, 2008, 09:21:03 PM
Actually, that's not as crazy as it sounds.  It couldn't be called a 911, though.  But a reincarnated 356 based on the UP! platform would certainly take Porsche back to it's roots.  Do a retro-styled Speedster version and watch 'em fly out the doors of Porsche showrooms all over the world!

Cheers,
Madman of the People


Now we're talking :rockon: I don't know if Porsche may be entirely disinterested in bringing back the 356 name (I don't think they do that at Porsche), but the name "Porsche Speedster" does have a nice ring to it, even if it does border on false advertising

2o6

Quote from: omicron on June 11, 2008, 10:49:55 AM
Very true.

The list of B-body cars here, however, has me coming over all a-quiver, and taller lying down than standing up.


Exactly. Since when is the B-body Brittle?

Cookie Monster

Quote from: 2o6 on June 11, 2008, 12:10:04 PM

Exactly. Since when is the B-body Brittle?
No one said the B-body was brittle, it was said that the Euro competition (Fiat, Lancia, etc) was more expensive and more brittle than the B-body.
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Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
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akuma_supreme

Quote from: thecarnut on June 11, 2008, 12:12:31 PM
No one said the B-body was brittle, it was said that the Euro competition (Fiat, Lancia, etc) was more expensive and more brittle than the B-body.

My most sincere of apologies.  I intended to refer to the GM H Body, which replaced the GM B-Body in most instances.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_H_platform_%28FWD%29

My family owned a B-Body 1981 Olds Delta 88 Royale- it was a treasured pet for many years in our clan.

akuma_supreme

Quote from: Madman on June 11, 2008, 05:10:23 AM
C'mon, just try and tell me the Ferrari V8 powered Lancia Thema 8.32 wasn't awesome!




Cheers,
Madman of the People


Ok.  I will admit that that is kind of cool.  Tell me though- would you be able to tell it was a Lancia without the badge on the grille or trunk?

AltinD

^^ The grill is classic Lancia. You couldn't mistaken one for a FIAT Chroma, let alone a Alfa 164 or a Saab 9000.

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Vinsanity

I know Lancia is the original, but Mitsubishi used a similar grille on its cars in the 90's through 2001-ish


Madman

Hyundai must have liked the Lancia Thema, too.  After all, they did blatantly copy it when designing the 1989 Sonata.




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"I much prefer the sharpest criticism of a single intelligent man to the thoughtless approval of the masses." - Johannes Kepler

"One of the most cowardly things ordinary people do is to shut their eyes to facts." - C.S. Lewis

akuma_supreme

Quote from: Madman on June 13, 2008, 09:30:52 PM
Hyundai must have liked the Lancia Thema, too.  After all, they did blatantly copy it when designing the 1989 Sonata.




Cheers,
Madman of the People


Other than the fact that both are front-wheel drive midsize sedans with shoddy build quality, I don't see the similarity.   ;)

Cookie Monster

Quote from: akuma_supreme on June 20, 2008, 12:07:06 PM
Other than the fact that both are front-wheel drive midsize sedans with shoddy build quality, I don't see the similarity.   ;)
+1!
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Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
1 3 5
├┼┤
2 4 R