Sighted: BMW M3!

[TBR]

If you do get the A8, lower it about an inch so it looks more professional...it looks a little too high for my tastes in stock form.  B)

I was thinking the same thing. As far as the A8 goes, it handles almost as well as the BMW, but its ride is a bit more rough (should be fine considering what you're driving now). Like the 745i, the A8 had a few teething problems, but 2004 models should be fine. I personally find the A8 to be quite attractive and you should be able to get a better deal on one than you can get on a 745i.

How come it's so high, it does look funny.  Compare it to the A8L and it looks real high.

Actually, I bet the air suspension is adjusted too high for some reason, that must be it.  

[R33 GT-R]

If you do get the A8, lower it about an inch so it looks more professional...it looks a little too high for my tastes in stock form.? B)

I was thinking the same thing. As far as the A8 goes, it handles almost as well as the BMW, but its ride is a bit more rough (should be fine considering what you're driving now). Like the 745i, the A8 had a few teething problems, but 2004 models should be fine. I personally find the A8 to be quite attractive and you should be able to get a better deal on one than you can get on a 745i.

How come it's so high, it does look funny.  Compare it to the A8L and it looks real high.

Actually, I bet the air suspension is adjusted too high for some reason, that must be it.

I didn't know if it had the air ride or not, your probably right.  I'm over at autotrader.

[TBR]

I believe they all do, I think it is standard equipment.

[Raza]

The A8 is not as capable as the 745i.  The A8 is actually the car most like the W140 on the market today.

[R33 GT-R]

The A8 is not as capable as the 745i.  The A8 is actually the car most like the W140 on the market today.

I don't like the rear of the 04 after looking at it, I like the rear of the 05 but it's too much.  Still perplexed, any ideas chime in and maybe I can be more confused.  I still think I would really enjoy the 745i but after missing that deal today I may hold off for a bit.    

[TBR]

The A8 is not as capable as the 745i.  The A8 is actually the car most like the W140 on the market today.

I don't like the rear of the 04 after looking at it, I like the rear of the 05 but it's too much.  Still perplexed, any ideas chime in and maybe I can be more confused.  I still think I would really enjoy the 745i but after missing that deal today I may hold off for a bit.  

Sounds to me like your options are  a S500 (which is being replaced soon) or a midsize sports sedan such as a M5 or RS6.  

[Raza]

You'd be better off buying a W220 or 221 than waiting for the new model.  I do like the S class...ours has been perfect.

[mazda6er]

Ever consider an XJ, R-33? Not sure how quickly they depreciate, but since you're looking at new A8s, I assume that's a viable option.

[R33 GT-R]

You'd be better off buying a W220 or 221 than waiting for the new model.  I do like the S class...ours has been perfect.

One thing Raza, I don't buy brand new cars anymore.  The depreciation is such a waste after you pass the 40k mark.  The only reason I bought my Ram 3500 new was for the over 6000 lb tax credit.  That's the main reason I like the 745 as much as I do, it's not dated looking yet for 04 models and even 03.  This gives you huge savings and a vehicle with anywhere from 12-30k miles.  

[TBR]

Ever consider an XJ, R-33? Not sure how quickly they depreciate, but since you're looking at new A8s, I assume that's a viable option.

The XJ is too "old manish" for him, but it does have worse depreciation than pretty much everything else in this class.

[R33 GT-R]

Check out this Raza, an 02 S55 AMG.

[R33 GT-R]

Ever consider an XJ, R-33? Not sure how quickly they depreciate, but since you're looking at new A8s, I assume that's a viable option.

The XJ is too "old manish" for him, but it does have worse depreciation than pretty much everything else in this class.

TBR is right, it's the old timers ride.  Plus you have to buy one 5 years old to get a decent deal.

[TBR]

Where did you come up with that? They depreciate like crazy!

[mazda6er]

Check out this Raza, an 02 S55 AMG.

That looks sweet. How can these cars be so cheap?

[TBR]

Check out this Raza, an 02 S55 AMG.

If you drive it and like it, it is a good car, but some people have complained about the quality of the pre-'03 models. However, it looks gorgeous in those pics.  

[R33 GT-R]

The only thing I can't stand about this car, look at the headlamps on it.

Then look at the xenon clear and how much better the nose looks.

[mazda6er]

The only thing I can't stand about this car, look at the headlamps on it.

Then look at the xenon clear and how much better the nose looks.

I agree. Simple enough to have fixed/fix yourself though.  

[R33 GT-R]

The only thing I can't stand about this car, look at the headlamps on it.

Then look at the xenon clear and how much better the nose looks.

I agree. Simple enough to have fixed/fix yourself though.

Your right and it looks like it was well taken care of, I wonder if the 03 headlamps will fit in it?  I know my xenons on my 230 are 750 each to replace so these must be over 1000 each.  

[TBR]

Seems like they did a surprisingly extensive redesign of the nose for '03 (surprisingly because it doesn't look that different), so they may not.

[R33 GT-R]

Seems like they did a surprisingly extensive redesign of the nose for '03 (surprisingly because it doesn't look that different), so they may not.

Well I would think they would have offered them in 02, let's take a gander and see.

[TBR]

I don't believe the S-class was available with clear lense headlights until 2003 when they became standard.  

[R33 GT-R]

I don't believe the S-class was available with clear lense headlights until 2003 when they became standard.

Every 2002 has those shitty ones and it says that they are zenon but hazed lensed.  I just found on autotrader a 2002 S55AMG with 15,789 miles for 57,800.  Somebody didn't drive that at all hardly, that's a scary car to buy because it's been sitting around too much.  That's only around 4k miles a year, spooky.

[BMWDave]

If you get the Audi, you must get it in natural brown leather with dark brown wood.  Every interior with natural brown seems to be amazing B)

[R33 GT-R]

If you get the Audi, you must get it in natural brown leather with dark brown wood.  Every interior with natural brown seems to be amazing B)

The Audi is out, the rear of the 04s just doesn't do it for me.  The 05 has a nice tail feather but it's out of the price range.

[BMWDave]

If you get the Audi, you must get it in natural brown leather with dark brown wood.  Every interior with natural brown seems to be amazing B)

The Audi is out, the rear of the 04s just doesn't do it for me.  The 05 has a nice tail feather but it's out of the price range.

Get the M5!  

[R33 GT-R]

If you get the Audi, you must get it in natural brown leather with dark brown wood.? Every interior with natural brown seems to be amazing B)

The Audi is out, the rear of the 04s just doesn't do it for me.  The 05 has a nice tail feather but it's out of the price range.

Get the M5!  

I'm seriously considering it but I really like the newer 745.  I'm going to let is saute a bit.

[BMWDave]

If you get the Audi, you must get it in natural brown leather with dark brown wood.? Every interior with natural brown seems to be amazing B)

The Audi is out, the rear of the 04s just doesn't do it for me.  The 05 has a nice tail feather but it's out of the price range.

Get the M5!  

I'm seriously considering it but I really like the newer 745.  I'm going to let is saute a bit.

I'll look for deals :)

[BMWDave]

Very cool car!

Link

[BMWDave]

Heres another deal

[Raghavan]

Heres another deal

i thought you said that 03's were bad because of glitches and electrical problems....