ZR1 vs. Viper ACR

[SVT666]

This is probably the final battle between the Vette and Viper before the Viper is killed off.

[SVT666]

I stated in the ZR1 thread that I could say I want a Corvette more then a Viper...but the Viper ACR is just so incredibly badass and te window in the ZR1's hood is so tacky, I just can't say that anymore.  The ZR1 came close, but not close enough.

[Soup DeVille]

Viper, because deep down in my psyche, I just want to scare the crap out of small children and old ladies.

[SVT666]

Viper, because deep down in my psyche, I just want to scare the crap out of small children and old ladies.

[68_427]

I guess I'll be the first to say I'd take the ZR1.  It's just as fast but more livable everyday.

EDIT:  Plus I am totally biased towards the Corvette.   

[CJ]

Where's the 'neither' option?

[Soup DeVille]

Where's the 'neither' option?

Hyundai Elantra?

[68_427]

There is no point of a "neither" option, if you don't want either then don't vote. 

[280Z Turbo]

Where's the 'neither' option?

Ban him.

[Soup DeVille]

Ban him.

Burn Him!!!

[280Z Turbo]

Don't let the ugly chrome wheels or hood keep you from appreciating the ZR-1.

They could easily be changed to something more tasteful.

[565]

Ban him.

Where's the GT-R?   

[GoCougs]

The ACR is beyond 99.999999% of the drivers on the road including yours truly, and though the ZR1 is not far beyond, it at least has a bevy of electronic nannies to reign it in somewhat. And yes, despite pushrods, leaf springs, dorky body kit and see-through hood, and tacky chrome wheels, I'll go with the ZR1 as it is somewhat more useable in the hands of the non-professional.

[giant_mtb]

Viper, because deep down in my psyche, I just want to scare the crap out of small children and old ladies.

[NomisR]

The ACR is beyond 99.999999% of the drivers on the road including yours truly, and though the ZR1 is not far beyond, it at least has a bevy of electronic nannies to reign it in somewhat. And yes, despite pushrods, leaf springs, dorky body kit and see-through hood, and tacky chrome wheels, I'll go with the ZR1 as it is somewhat more useable in the hands of the non-professional.

For a track car, I prefer to be scared out of my wits and be able to tame the beast than having some electronic nannies do it for me.  I want to be able to run fast because of me and not because of the computers on my car.

[GoCougs]

For a track car, I prefer to be scared out of my wits and be able to tame the beast than having some electronic nannies do it for me.  I want to be able to run fast because of me and not because of the computers on my car.

I surmise however in the ZR1 that you can turn the electronic safety nets off.

And if you can truly test the limits of the ACR with a measure of safety, judging by virtually every single comparo/road test I've ever read, you're in that 0.000001%.

[Lebowski]

I guess the ZR-1, but honestly I wouldn't consider buying either of these cars, even if I had the money.

Obviously I like Corvettes, but I wouldn't want anything beyond the Z06 as far as performance, and IMO the body kit and clear hood panel on the ZR-1 look like total shit.  I imagine you can get those wheels w/o the chrome (like on other corvettes, the same wheel design is available in silver, polished, chrome, and competition gray).  I like the ZR-1 wheel design, but hate the chrome.

I wouldn't buy any Viper, too many magazine articles complain about how terrible it is as a regular driver, and in particular the heat complaint is something I could never get past given I live in FL and sweat like a pig.

I would rather have a GT3 over either of these cars.  Or, just a Corvette Coupe w/ the Z51 package and save the difference, given I don't get many opportunities to really stretch my cars legs as it is.

[CJ]

I'd buy one of these:




http://www.auction123.com/showroom/boardwalk_ferrari_maserati/2004/Ferrari/575M/Maranello/ZFFBV55A840134903.html?showroom_dealer=7847&wait=false


That's the car I would take.  With dealer 'market adjustment,' the cars will be a LOT more. 

[giant_mtb]

For some reason I think both the ZR1 and the ACR would demolish that car on a track.  I dunno what that reason is, and it's just a thought, but I think maybe I might almost be correct in that assumption.

[Raza]

If you're not going to have an undecided option, can you at least allow people to view the results before voting?

[TBR]

As a daily driver, the ZR1. But, for a track car, the ACR. And, let's face it, if you are looking at either one of these you probably already have an execurocket of some sort, so I am voting for the ACR.

[JYODER240]

The ACR I guess, but if it was up to me I would spend the money on a GT3.

[sportyaccordy]

If you're not going to have an undecided option, can you at least allow people to view the results before voting?

Coward

(just kidding)

When I hear 'Viper' in an automotive context I think of one of two sets of things: the first set contains poorly produced special effects commercials for car alarms in the early 90s, and teh second set includes the following: a pickup truck motor, dangerously hot door sills, ugly wheels, racing stripes, and the dude in my old neighborhood who bought a Viper, but still lives in his mom's house (true story)...

So of the two it would have to be the ZR-1, though the first course of action would be to change the whole car's appearance to that of the Z06...

Though like someone else said, for the money I'd much rather do the 996 GT3. Actually realistically I'd probably do a 996 C4S as that would make more sense for a daily driver. To truly enjoy a car on the level of the ACR/Z06/GT2 you need the money to be able to take it to a track, have a REAL daily driver, etc.

"i could totally drive an ACR in a snowstorm" Give me a hit of whatever you're smoking.

[Soup DeVille]

Well, with a decent set of snow tires...

[SVT666]

...includes the following: a pickup truck motor,

You don't know a thing about the Viper engine do you?

[280Z Turbo]

You don't know a thing about the Viper engine do you?

The early test mules ran truck engines.

[SVT666]

The early test mules ran truck engines.

Test mules.  Not the actual production car.  The production engine shared the block design with the Ram's engine, but that's it.  Not even the same block and head material.  The new engine shares absolutely nothing with the original truck engine.

[Soup DeVille]

Test mules.  Not the actual production car.  The production engine shared the block design with the Ram's engine, but that's it.  Not even the same block and head material.  The new engine shares absolutely nothing with the original truck engine.

And then, they put the now no-longer-a-truck-engine into a truck, further complicating the matter...

[280Z Turbo]

Test mules.  Not the actual production car.  The production engine shared the block design with the Ram's engine, but that's it.  Not even the same block and head material.  The new engine shares absolutely nothing with the original truck engine.

It's well known that any design shared with a truck engine will make the car 64.2% worse.

Trucky water jackets and oil passages decrease handling and throttle response.

[SVT666]

And then, they put the now no-longer-a-truck-engine into a truck, further complicating the matter...

No they didn't.  The Ram V10 and the Viper V10 only shared block design.  That was it.  Nothing else.  How hard is this to understand?  That's like saying the Vette has a truck engine.