C/D Comparo: "Cheap Speed"

[TBR]

The WRX is the most practical of the bunch, IMO.

Not in your opinion, it is.  It's got a decent size trunk and it's got four doors.  It might even be a little more practical than the SRT-4 because of the AWD and rally like suspension.

And the fact that it actually has a suspension (I am convinced that the SRT4's axles are welded straight to the frame ) as well as a muffler. The SRT4 would be next to impossible to live with as a daily driver.

And, this is my order:
WRX
Ion
SS
RSX
SRT4

Ion :wacko:  :blink:  You just indicated you don't like crappy cars.

That isn't my personal buying order, that is how I think the comparo should have played out using the rest of their comments, this is my buying order:

1. WRX
2. Ss
3. RSX
4. SRT4
5. Ion

[Colonel Cadillac]

I think the SS should be higher in the comparo than the SRT-4. The SRT-4 is too rough around the edges to be so high. The SS does better overall while the SRT-4 only accels (although to the top) in a few departments.  

[Raza]

I think the SS should be higher in the comparo than the SRT-4. The SRT-4 is too rough around the edges to be so high. The SS does better overall while the SRT-4 only accels (although to the top) in a few departments.

The thing is, that the title is "cheap speed".  Not "cheap cars that may also go fast!".  While stock the car is roughly the same as the WRX (6.0 seconds is a slow 0-60) it is cheaper--and that edges it out above many of the others.  The WRX wins for me because of looks, speed, handling, AWD, practicality, liveabilitiy, and modability.  Yes, liveability and practicality are important--but not necessarily that important.  Then again, if you're got a sensitive bum, then go buy a Continental.

[R33 GT-R]

I still think the SRT 4 wins because it excels where it matters, speed.  So what if it's a bit rough.  The WRX however is a solid second.

[Tom]

It's really not that rough around the edges.  Maybe a bit loud, but it has comfy leather seats.

[Raza]

It's really not that rough around the edges.  Maybe a bit loud, but it has comfy leather seats.

Leather is available on the WRX as well, but you have to ask really nicely.  I sat in a leather WRX...it was nice!

[Run Away]

I for one agree with the results exactly the way they are. How many of you actually read the full article and not just the High/Lows that iffy pasted?

However, if I were to have one of the cars for my own purposes at this point in my life, I'd probably take an SRT-4.

[MrH]

I for one agree with the results exactly the way they are. How many of you actually read the full article and not just the High/Lows that iffy pasted?

However, if I were to have one of the cars for my own purposes at this point in my life, I'd probably take an SRT-4.

Hooray.  Someone who actually read the article chimed in.  I read it too, and agree as well.

Though I personally wouldn't take the SRT4.  RSX-S or WRX for me.

As for the WRX being the most practical, and stating that as a fact, is bullshit.  It had the smallest trunk in the entire comparison, and the Neon beat it in rear seat space.  The WRX only had the Neon by one cubic foot up front.  It seems the Neon is the most spacious of all them, by a fair amount.

The WRX also died for worst gas mileage of the whole group.

[Raza]

I for one agree with the results exactly the way they are. How many of you actually read the full article and not just the High/Lows that iffy pasted?

However, if I were to have one of the cars for my own purposes at this point in my life, I'd probably take an SRT-4.

Hooray.  Someone who actually read the article chimed in.  I read it too, and agree as well.

Though I personally wouldn't take the SRT4.  RSX-S or WRX for me.

As for the WRX being the most practical, and stating that as a fact, is bullshit.  It had the smallest trunk in the entire comparison, and the Neon beat it in rear seat space.  The WRX only had the Neon by one cubic foot up front.  It seems the Neon is the most spacious of all them, by a fair amount.

The WRX also died for worst gas mileage of the whole group.

AWD cars are always going to get worse gas mileage.  That argument is as stupid as "the 350Z is as practical as the RX-8, so the RX-8 is a better 'sports car'."

[TBR]

I for one agree with the results exactly the way they are. How many of you actually read the full article and not just the High/Lows that iffy pasted?

However, if I were to have one of the cars for my own purposes at this point in my life, I'd probably take an SRT-4.

I have read the article and they had plenty of bad stuff to say about the RSX-S, more bad stuff than they had to say about the WRX for sure. The SRT-4 shouldn't have won, it isn't well rounded enough.  

[MrH]

I for one agree with the results exactly the way they are. How many of you actually read the full article and not just the High/Lows that iffy pasted?

However, if I were to have one of the cars for my own purposes at this point in my life, I'd probably take an SRT-4.

Hooray.  Someone who actually read the article chimed in.  I read it too, and agree as well.

Though I personally wouldn't take the SRT4.  RSX-S or WRX for me.

As for the WRX being the most practical, and stating that as a fact, is bullshit.  It had the smallest trunk in the entire comparison, and the Neon beat it in rear seat space.  The WRX only had the Neon by one cubic foot up front.  It seems the Neon is the most spacious of all them, by a fair amount.

The WRX also died for worst gas mileage of the whole group.

AWD cars are always going to get worse gas mileage.  That argument is as stupid as "the 350Z is as practical as the RX-8, so the RX-8 is a better 'sports car'."

So what if AWD are going to always get worse gas mileage.  You can't ignore that fact, and treat it as if it's not a disadvantage because of AWD.  That's just a con I'm pointing out in the WRX.

And that analogy was butchered so badly, I won't even try to respond to it.  I'll let you think it over instead.  B)  

[Raza]

I for one agree with the results exactly the way they are. How many of you actually read the full article and not just the High/Lows that iffy pasted?

However, if I were to have one of the cars for my own purposes at this point in my life, I'd probably take an SRT-4.

Hooray.  Someone who actually read the article chimed in.  I read it too, and agree as well.

Though I personally wouldn't take the SRT4.  RSX-S or WRX for me.

As for the WRX being the most practical, and stating that as a fact, is bullshit.  It had the smallest trunk in the entire comparison, and the Neon beat it in rear seat space.  The WRX only had the Neon by one cubic foot up front.  It seems the Neon is the most spacious of all them, by a fair amount.

The WRX also died for worst gas mileage of the whole group.

AWD cars are always going to get worse gas mileage.  That argument is as stupid as "the 350Z is as practical as the RX-8, so the RX-8 is a better 'sports car'."

So what if AWD are going to always get worse gas mileage.  You can't ignore that fact, and treat it as if it's not a disadvantage because of AWD.  That's just a con I'm pointing out in the WRX.

And that analogy was butchered so badly, I won't even try to respond to it.  I'll let you think it over instead.  B)

Wasn't it C&D that compared the RX-8, S2000, and 350Z and chose the RX-8 because it was the most practical?  

[ifcar]

Nope.

[Tom]

Every one of these cars will rape you in insurance, especially if you are young and/or have a bad record  

[Raza]

Every one of these cars will rape you in insurance, especially if you are young and/or have a bad record

The RSX will probably be the gentlest.

if:  It must have been some other rag then...probably Edmunds.

[Speed_Racer]

The RSX is quite bad actually. It has a high theft rating. I would expect the Cobalt SS to be lowest.

[Tom]

The RSX is quite bad actually. It has a high theft rating. I would expect the Cobalt SS to be lowest.

That's what I was thinking.  Most RSX drivers I see have pretty bad road manners too.

[ifcar]

Raza, Edmunds compared the RX8, Mustang, and 350Z, no S2000.

[Raza]

The RSX is quite bad actually. It has a high theft rating. I would expect the Cobalt SS to be lowest.

I didn't think of theft...good point.  

And the road manners of most RSX drivers I've met have been pretty shitty.

[Raza]

Edmunds compared the RX8, Mustang, and 350Z, no S2000.

That might be it.

[R33 GT-R]

the SRT 4 is the class of this bunch for sure.

[FlatBlackCaddy]

I read it and i would probobly take a WRX.

If the biggest downside is turbo lag that can be fixed, pretty easily, in the future.

[R33 GT-R]

Of course you would Party Pooper and I would wave as I dusted you in the SRT 4.

[FlatBlackCaddy]

Just don't torque steer into me. The SRT is a nice car but in the hands of a inexperienced driver(like yourself) it can be a handful.

[Raza]

I read it and i would probobly take a WRX.

If the biggest downside is turbo lag that can be fixed, pretty easily, in the future.

A little nitrous spray should fix it!

[Run Away]

I for one agree with the results exactly the way they are. How many of you actually read the full article and not just the High/Lows that iffy pasted?

However, if I were to have one of the cars for my own purposes at this point in my life, I'd probably take an SRT-4.

I have read the article and they had plenty of bad stuff to say about the RSX-S, more bad stuff than they had to say about the WRX for sure. The SRT-4 shouldn't have won, it isn't well rounded enough.

The SRT-4 didn't win...

I just stated that it would be my preferance of them all because I hold a very low priority on comfort, but I agree with C&D's rankings given their criteria.

[TBR]

I for one agree with the results exactly the way they are. How many of you actually read the full article and not just the High/Lows that iffy pasted?

However, if I were to have one of the cars for my own purposes at this point in my life, I'd probably take an SRT-4.

I have read the article and they had plenty of bad stuff to say about the RSX-S, more bad stuff than they had to say about the WRX for sure. The SRT-4 shouldn't have won, it isn't well rounded enough.

The SRT-4 didn't win...

I just stated that it would be my preferance of them all because I hold a very low priority on comfort, but I agree with C&D's rankings given their criteria.

I know, I was just saying why it shouldn't have.

[R33 GT-R]

Just don't torque steer into me. The SRT is a nice car but in the hands of a inexperienced driver(like yourself) it can be a handful.

Don't worry about me Flats I'll keep it between the lines just the way your mother likes it.