Honda recalls the 05 Odyssey

[ifcar]

DETROIT (Reuters) - Honda Motor Co. Ltd. is recalling 85,154 Odyssey minivans in the United States to fix potential problems with their frontal air bag systems, federal safety regulators said on Wednesday.

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration said the problem, affecting minivans from the 2005 model year, stemmed from two external impact sensors that may have been insufficiently sealed during the manufacturing process.

If water enters the sensor corrosion can occur, possibly causing a short circuit, NHTSA said.

It added that front impact sensor failure could cause a delay in or loss of frontal air bag deployment, increasing the risk of injury in a crash.

The Honda recall is expected to begin on Aug, 29, NHTSA said.  

[bobwill]

huh, interesting.  I would assume that this problem (a short circuit) would have atleast triggered the airbag light.

[TBR]

Another safety related Honda recall, the 4th in recent history.

[ifcar]

TBR, do you remember which ones the others were? I know there was a transmission recall, what else?

[TBR]

I don't consider that to really be a safety recall. I am not sure if it would actually lock up at high speeds or just quite transmitting power to the wheels. But, the CR-V has had a seatbelt recall, airbag recall, and the whole fire issue (not sure if they ever actually recalled that one).

[ifcar]

I don't remember if they ever did recall the CR-V for its explosive behavior. I don't think they ever did.  

[bobwill]

The CR-V fires wasn't truly a recall, but it might as well have been.

Make:  HONDA 
Model:  CR-V 
Type:  ANY 
Year:  2004 
NHTSA Action Number:  EA04027 
Summary:   
IN DOCUMENTS PROVIDED DURING EA04-027, HONDA IDENTIFIED A MECHANISM WHICH CAUSES THE RUBBER SEAL (GASKET) OF THE ORIGINAL EQUIPMENT (OE) OIL FILTER TO ADHERE TO THE ENGINE BLOCK OF THE SUBJECT VEHICLES. IF AN ADHERED SEAL REMAINS WHEN THE OE FILTER IS REMOVED AND A NEW FILTER IS INSTALLED, A "DOUBLE GASKET" CONDITION RESULTS. A SUBSEQUENT RUPTURE OF THE EXTRANEOUS SEAL CAN RESULT IN OIL CONTACTING NEARBY EXHAUST SYSTEM SURFACES AND A FIRE MAY OCCUR. THROUGHOUT ITS DISCUSSIONS WITH ODI, HONDA HAS MAINTAINED THAT IT IS THE SERVICING TECHNICIAN?S RESPONSIBILITY TO INSPECT FOR AND REMOVE THE SEAL PRIOR TO INSTALLING A NEW FILTER. ODI?S ANALYSIS FOUND THAT SEAL ADHESION, IN CONJUNCTION WITH TECHNICIAN ERROR AND EXHAUST COMPONENT LOCATION, RESULTED IN A HIGH RATE OF SUBJECT VEHICLE OIL FILTER FIRES COMPARED TO EARLIER MODELS AND PEERS. VEHICLES THAT HAVE NOT HAD THE OE FILTER DISTURBED ARE NOT AT RISK. SERVICE REPLACEMENT FILTER SEALS, WHICH ARE MANUFACTURED BY A DIFFERENT SUPPLIER, DO NOT EXHIBIT THE SEAL ADHESION CONDITION. THEREFORE, IF THE INITIAL OIL CHANGE IS DONE PROPERLY, THE ELEVATED FIRE RISK IS ELIMINATED FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE VEHICLE?S LIFE. BASED ON AVERAGE MILEAGE ACCUMULATION AND OIL SERVICE INTERVAL, ODI ESTIMATES THAT MORE THAN TWO THIRDS OF THE SUBJECT VEHICLES HAVE RECEIVED THEIR INITIAL OIL CHANGE AND ARE NO LONGER AT AN ELEVATED RISK. HONDA CHANGED THE DESIGN OF THE FILTER SEAL TO PREVENT THE ADHESION CONDITION AND INTRODUCED THE NEW SEAL AT BOTH CR-V ASSEMBLY PLANTS IN DECEMBER 2004. IN A DECEMBER 8, 2004 LETTER TO ODI, HONDA COMMITTED TO SEND A NOTIFICATION TO SUBJECT VEHICLE OWNERS ADVISING OF THE FIRE RISK IF AN OIL CHANGE IS IMPROPERLY PERFORMED. THE LETTER DISCUSSES MEASURES CONSUMERS CAN TAKE TO ENSURE THE FIRST OIL CHANGE IS DONE PROPERLY. LETTER MAILINGS COMMENCED ON DECEMBER 10, 2004. OWNERS WHO HAVE RECENTLY HAD THEIR FIRST OIL CHANGE PERFORMED AND ARE UNSURE IF IT WAS DONE CORRECTLY CAN HAVE IT INSPECTED BY A HONDA DEALER AT NO CHARGE; IF AN IMPROPER FILTER INSTALLATION IS DETECTED, A FREE REMEDY WILL BE PROVIDED BY THE DEALER. UNSOLD SUBJECT VEHICLES IN DEALER STOCK (~20,000 UNITS) WILL HAVE THE OE FILTER REPLACED WITH A SERVICE COMPONENT PRIOR TO RETAIL. THE INJURY NOTED ABOVE OCCURRED WHEN A CONSUMER SLIPPED ON OIL THAT LEAKED FROM THEIR VEHICLE. RECENT REPORT TRENDS INDICATE THAT HONDA?S EFFORTS TO IMPROVE OIL FILTER SERVICE PROFICIENCY AT THEIR DEALERSHIPS HAVE BEEN EFFECTIVE. SEE THE EA04-027 SUMMARY REPORT FOR FURTHER DETAILS ON THIS INVESTIGATION. 

[ifcar]

Didn't read through the whole thing, but it looks like it said 2004 only. There have been reported fires on 03 and 05 CRVs as well.

[bobwill]

Didn't read through the whole thing, but it looks like it said 2004 only. There have been reported fires on 03 and 05 CRVs as well.

Yeah, they had the same thing for all three years, I just picked 2004 from the listing. :)

[bobwill]

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[Car Zeus]

Anyone notice that the Sienna is gaining on the Honda Odyssey in sales.


Personally I think the Honda's design is bland.

[TBR]

Didn't read through the whole thing, but it looks like it said 2004 only. There have been reported fires on 03 and 05 CRVs as well.

It also sounds like all they did was offer to give you a free oil change and only if they did the first one improperly.