***Ferrari Fans, Diapers Recommended***

[cawimmer430]

And Audi, BMW and Mercedes fans too. 


BMW M5


Audi RS4 Avant


Porsche 997 Turbo - he should have a sticker at the back saying "I don't brake for nobody!"


Maserati Quattroporte



Ferrari F430 Scuderia











New BMW 730d


Classic '80s Porsche Carrera Cabrio in red, very hot.





Opel GT


Jaguar XK8


Audi S3


Audi S8


Audi S8 or W12, not sure. Cool license plate (S-600). 


BMW Z1








Ferrari Dino???








Slammed (in front) Porsche...



Beautiful Mercedes 280SE 3.5. One of the hottest Benzes ever.  








Audi S8



BMW E39 5er Police Cruiser


BMW M3 Coupe


Audi S3 from before...


Hope you liked the pictures.  You better. 

[Cookie Monster]

Damn, that Porsche Turbo is dirty.

[the Teuton]

Is that a Dino or a 330?

[Atomic]

nice collection of pics!

[Tave]

Great photos, as always. Thanks Wimmer.


One suggestion: could you be a little more selective when you create these threads? A lot of those shots are repeats, and even with broadband it takes a long time to load these pages. My connection timed out and I can't even see the last three cars.

Maybe someone else could back me up on this. For example, I don't think we need all three of these:

[AltinD]

That AUDI is a S8. the W12 have square-like single exaust pipe housing on each side.

[TBR]

Plus it has a different grill and the W12 is LWB only while the S8 is SWB only.

[Northlands]

Fine photography. I'd take either one of those Porsches. Filthy or not. 

[ChrisV]

Is that a Dino or a 330?

Good catch. That's a '65-66 330 GTC:

http://www.ferraris-online.com/pages/cardetail.php?reqcardir=FE-330GTC-09055





The side scoops really give it away

[the Teuton]

I've seen a few 330s in Canton.  I know that car like the back of my...

Well, I don't know...

[cawimmer430]

Is that a Dino or a 330?

You tell me.

[cawimmer430]

Great photos, as always. Thanks Wimmer.

Thanks. 

One suggestion: could you be a little more selective when you create these threads? A lot of those shots are repeats, and even with broadband it takes a long time to load these pages. My connection timed out and I can't even see the last three cars.

Maybe someone else could back me up on this. For example, I don't think we need all three of these:

I know I know, I just get excited when it comes to older and rare MBs like this one and I feel it needs to be seen from "slightly different / changing" perspectives. 

I'll make sure to be more selective, but you have to admit that "sequence shots" are pretty neat too. 

[cawimmer430]

Thanks for all the replies and infos. I got another picture thread coming up ASAP with some more cool cars. 

[AutobahnSHO]

That red Porsche is my favorite of the 911s..

My wife lusts after that old Benz. But didn't they have color- matched hubcaps, or is that a different year??

I saw a Z1 cruising in the country coming back from Soufflenheim (sp?) France. Sexy little car, really distinctive..

Oh and given the amount of "fake" BMW "M" badges I see around here, I love seeing DEBADGED Ms...   !   :-)

[rohan]

Great pictures.  but you're in Germany- it's not like the cars you shot are super rare over there.  If you really want to impress us take a picture of a 1986 Oldsmobile Delta 88 or a 1991 Dodge Diplomat. 

Thanks for sharing them- great photos.

[Danish]

That Z1 reminds me of a little insect

[cawimmer430]

My wife lusts after that old Benz. But didn't they have color- matched hubcaps, or is that a different year??

It depends. Mercedes in those days only really offered two types of hubcaps (those are hubcaps on that 280SE 3.5) and rims. The first type of hubcaps were these body-colored versions. Every Mercedes virtually had them and the color of the body matched the color of the rims.

Some samples:








Then you had these 14" "sporty" rims that MB offered for those that wanted their car to appear sportier. The design of the these rims allowed air to flow through the little slits and cool the brakes. A neat feature.

[cawimmer430]

Great pictures.  but you're in Germany- it's not like the cars you shot are super rare over there.  If you really want to impress us take a picture of a 1986 Oldsmobile Delta 88 or a 1991 Dodge Diplomat. 

Thanks for sharing them- great photos.

Ah, you want more Americans cars! At the next classic car show, I will. 

Thanks. 


Here are some samples I took a long time ago. 

Oldsmobile Delta Royale?  <--- Impressed? 


Oldsmobile Delta Royale 88?  <--- DIESEL too!




Some more Oldsmobiles...






Here are all the classic car show threads I posted on GMInsidenews: http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/search.php?searchid=2461144

[AutobahnSHO]

:-<

I shoulda given you my SHO to eventually rebuild and keep for me for when I finally get the money to come over on the weekends.... 

Plus you could take it to the carshows-

In the Mannheim area the Germans are used to seeing all kinds of US cars.
Not so much in France and Spain, we had people staring everywhere we went when we drove to the Costa Brava on vacation..

[cawimmer430]

:-<

I shoulda given you my SHO to eventually rebuild and keep for me for when I finally get the money to come over on the weekends.... 

Plus you could take it to the carshows-

In the Mannheim area the Germans are used to seeing all kinds of US cars.
Not so much in France and Spain, we had people staring everywhere we went when we drove to the Costa Brava on vacation..

Why do US Army personnel in Germany bring over American cars anyway? How does it work with spare parts?

[rohan]

Ah, you want more Americans cars! At the next classic car show, I will. 

Thanks. 


Here are some samples I took a long time ago. 

Oldsmobile Delta Royale?  <--- Impressed? 


Oldsmobile Delta Royale 88?  <--- DIESEL too!


Some more Oldsmobiles...

Holy apeshit- a diesel 88?  Man I'ld LOVE to have that car!

And is that a electric blue Starfire?  My mom and dad had a '64 Starfire- they were killed in that car.  Same exact color to.

[AutobahnSHO]

Why do US Army personnel in Germany bring over American cars anyway? How does it work with spare parts?

We get to ship one car TO Germany then later back home for "free". So it's sometimes cheaper than trying to sell a car here then buy one there.

The AAFES (Army Air Force Exchance Service) has garages that order from US vendors.
Also I liked Autozone a national parts seller, which now ships to the US "APO" military post offices for free.

But also the local shops can order US parts.
My SHO was special- built May 1991, it was registered w/ US Plates in Germany October 1991- that owner paid a local German Ford dealership to do all the services.

A friend bought it in 2000. He had nothing but problems (it had 150k miles) so sold it to me cheap when he was moving back stateside in 2002. I did a little work then drove it hard on the Autobahn, then had a few electrical problems. I SHOULD HAVE changed out the rod/crankshaft bearings (recommended every 100k miles) but didn't so it went BOOM w/ 172k miles..    People on teh SHO forum offered a free "short block" but it was going to be $800+ to ship and I would have had to install it, and the wife was pregnant and bitching, etc...

[cawimmer430]

Holy apeshit- a diesel 88?  Man I'ld LOVE to have that car!

I was wondering if that thing was real or just a gimmick. I mean it could be a 350cid V8 too and the owner just put those "Diesel" badges at the rear for the heck of it. 

And is that a electric blue Starfire?  My mom and dad had a '64 Starfire- they were killed in that car.  Same exact color to.

Buddy, you're the American car expert here, not me. 

[cawimmer430]

We get to ship one car TO Germany then later back home for "free". So it's sometimes cheaper than trying to sell a car here then buy one there.

The AAFES (Army Air Force Exchance Service) has garages that order from US vendors.
Also I liked Autozone a national parts seller, which now ships to the US "APO" military post offices for free.

But also the local shops can order US parts.
My SHO was special- built May 1991, it was registered w/ US Plates in Germany October 1991- that owner paid a local German Ford dealership to do all the services.

A friend bought it in 2000. He had nothing but problems (it had 150k miles) so sold it to me cheap when he was moving back stateside in 2002. I did a little work then drove it hard on the Autobahn, then had a few electrical problems. I SHOULD HAVE changed out the rod/crankshaft bearings (recommended every 100k miles) but didn't so it went BOOM w/ 172k miles..    People on teh SHO forum offered a free "short block" but it was going to be $800+ to ship and I would have had to install it, and the wife was pregnant and bitching, etc...

Ah, thanks for the information. 


Is it true you guys also get a discount at the pumps? My sister told me that her US Army friends have to pay "American fuel prices" at German gas stations. Lucky bastards! 

[AutobahnSHO]

Ah, thanks for the information. 


Is it true you guys also get a discount at the pumps? My sister told me that her US Army friends have to pay "American fuel prices" at German gas stations. Lucky bastards! 

It's close to the US price. It's SUPPOSED to be an average of US gas prices, but it seems like it's always higher.
We can buy "fuel coupons" to use at SOME German gas stations. They also have different ones for Italy or Belgium. AND AAFES has their own gas stations on most US bases.

Looks like it's currently $1.93/gal and $2.22/gal premium.
That's $.52/L and $.58/L

http://www.wiesbaden.army.mil/sites/news/AAFESFuelPrices.htm

Before 9/11 the gate to the gastation in Mannheim (off B38) was open- and they used to have to wave Germans away all the time...

[AutobahnSHO]

PS-
As long as we have valid US licenses, we take a written test and get a US Army Europe license, good most places in Europe, free.   :-o

I had to pay $15 for the safety (TUV) inspection each year.

Plus insurance was possibly less than you pay. 

:-)

Blame the Nazis- if they hadn't been nutz and gotten beat down, we wouldn't have invaded.
((BUT we are slowly but steadily pulling troops OUT permanently of beautiful Deutschland...))

[cawimmer430]

PS-
As long as we have valid US licenses, we take a written test and get a US Army Europe license, good most places in Europe, free.   :-o

I had to pay $15 for the safety (TUV) inspection each year.

Plus insurance was possibly less than you pay. 

:-)

Blame the Nazis- if they hadn't been nutz and gotten beat down, we wouldn't have invaded.
((BUT we are slowly but steadily pulling troops OUT permanently of beautiful Deutschland...))

[hounddog]

I was wondering if that thing was real or just a gimmick. I mean it could be a 350cid V8 too and the owner just put those "Diesel" badges at the rear for the heck of it. 

My mom had one of the later ones, it was a redesigned 350 gaser that GM turned into a smoker.  They were fine, but people thought you could drive them to the store and turn them off, then get in and drive it a few blocks back home.  They gummed up and died.  Most people just went to the junk yard and threw in a replacement 305 gasser(or 307 I do not remember) because they went right in.

Ours had somewhere around 150,000 when my folks had it rebuilt.  They ran it for another 50,000+ and sold it.  My mom swears she still sees it around town. 

[cawimmer430]

My mom had one of the later ones, it was a redesigned 350 gaser that GM turned into a smoker.  They were fine, but people thought you could drive them to the store and turn them off, then get in and drive it a few blocks back home.  They gummed up and died.  Most people just went to the junk yard and threw in a replacement 305 gasser(or 307 I do not remember) because they went right in.

Ours had somewhere around 150,000 when my folks had it rebuilt.  They ran it for another 50,000+ and sold it.  My mom swears she still sees it around town. 

So the "short trips" are one of the major factors that made the 350cid V8 diesel so problematic? Sounds "very American".   

I had American classmates who told me they would hop into their Ford Explorers, drive down the block to a 7/11, pick up some Diet Coke and drive back up the block home. I guess the engine never had a chance to warm up! 

[hounddog]

Never had a chance to warm up, which is a killer.