V6 TSX?

[the Teuton]

That's not really breaking news.

But what do you do when you see the hot girl from high school all fat and bloated 3-4 years later?  You give her that awkward look like "how the mighty have fallen," and how your fantasies of her have, too.

The TSX is now that girl, except the new TSX never looked gorgeous.  It has the face of Integra Girl.

[CALL_911]

You've never driven a really "peaky" vehicle, have you?  The S2000 has a rather flat torque curve.  Flat torque = steady acceleration vs RPM != peaky.

Well, no. The TSX is about as peaky as I've driven.

[CALL_911]

But what do you do when you see the hot girl from high school all fat and bloated 3-4 years later?  You give her that awkward look like "how the mighty have fallen," and how your fantasies of her have, too.

The TSX is now that girl, except the new TSX never looked gorgeous.  It has the face of Integra Girl.

I'm still in high school, I haven't faced that yet.

[the Teuton]

I'm still in high school, I haven't faced that yet.

Think about it.

[CALL_911]

Think about it.

That's the TL. The TSX has grown on me a bit. Still looks worse than the 1st gen.

[the Teuton]

You'd hit it.

[CALL_911]

You'd hit it.

The TSX? With a manual, yeah, maybe. I really like the 1st gen, so I'd probably find a nice CPO example (like my sister's) before I'd look at a 2nd gen.

[the Teuton]

The TSX? With a manual, yeah, maybe. I really like the 1st gen, so I'd probably find a nice CPO example (like my sister's) before I'd look at a 2nd gen.

Clever.

[MX793]

Well, no. The TSX is about as peaky as I've driven.

The TSX 2.4L also has a pretty flat torque curve.  You want to know what peaky looks like?  Look at a Mazdaspeed3.  Torque ramps up quickly over the first 1000 RPM, holds fairly steady for about 2 grand, then falls off sharply over the last 2500 RPM of the band.  It's at 90%+ of peak for about 2500 rpm, well less than half its usable band (about 38%).  That's peaky.  A TSX spikes up to around 150 lb-ft at 2500 RPM and holds it until 5 grand when it starts gently ramping down.  It makes 90%+ of peak over a roughly 4000 RPM band, which is over 50% of the usable band.

[sportyaccordy]

Honda powerbands piss me off a bit

I've driven the S2K and a few DOHC VTEC machines... to go fast, it's like the movie Speed... u have to absolutely stay on the big cam, otherwise the car cuts fuel until u stop moving.

Meanwhile, in equally powered cars w/big motors, you can get by shifting at maybe 3K or so. Def. easier to drive

[MrH]

This thread is just screaming for it.  I have to use it.  It's calling me out.

[GoCougs]

Dude - "ft/lb" is about where I checked out...

[MrH]

Dude - "ft/lb" is about where I checked out...

Ugh, I thought we already went over this:

Torque = (total surface area of all the cylinders added up)*(radial tolerance stack up of the play between the cylinder heads and the cylinder walls) / (the force it takes to snap a rod when applied in shear at where the head connects)

[CALL_911]

Dude - "ft/lb" is about where I checked out...

It makes it at 4,500 RPM. All 166 lb/ft of it. 

Let's compare that of, oh, I don't know, the B7 A4 2.0T (the FSI motor). It makes peak torque (207 lb/ft) at 1,800 RPM.

The TSX's low-end is earth-shaking, right Rag?

I bet you did.

[GoCougs]

Being the nice guy that I am, I'll give just a quick hint: uh, lb/ft vs. ft/lb ain't the issue...

[YO]

I'll calling my "mom, dad, sister and brother" tonight to get clarity on this issue...just you wait!

Being the nice guy that I am, I'll give just a quick hint: uh, lb/ft vs. ft/lb ain't the issue...