V6 TSX?

[Submariner]

And what's the best-selling car in the nation again?

Not the RL...

[YO]

Americans are snobs... for example, the TSX is larger than the E350 interior wise minus 1" rear legroom and trunk.  It handles better, better stereo, better navigation, better seats etc etc. But Americans crave the badge... most Americans would take a 1/2 carat in a tiffanys box over a full carat from kays

Not the RL...

[MX793]

Americans are snobs... for example, the TSX is larger than the E350 interior wise minus 1" rear legroom and trunk.  It handles better, better stereo, better navigation, better seats etc etc. But Americans crave the badge... most Americans would take a 1/2 carat in a tiffanys box over a full carat from kays

The TSX is classified as a compact by the EPA and the E class is a midsize.  The E class has 2 more cubic feet of interior space, plus another cubic foot of trunk.

[Tave]

Not the RL...

Nor the 7-series nor S-class neither.

[YO]

volume is one thing... what about the measurements?

The TSX is classified as a compact by the EPA and the E class is a midsize.  The E class has 2 more cubic feet of interior space, plus another cubic foot of trunk.

[Submariner]

Nor the 7-series nor S-class neither.

I bet they outsell the RL, even they go anywhere from 2-3 times the TL's price.

And besides, this has nothing to do with the 7 or S, it has to do with what I said about the RL vs. the 5 and E in sales...both of which handily outsell the RL.

[Tave]

I bet they outsell the RL, even they go anywhere from 2-3 times the TL's price.

And besides, this has nothing to do with the 7 or S, it has to do with what I said about the RL vs. the 5 and E in sales...both of which handily outsell the RL.

What is your point? The Camry outsells all 3--probably put together.

[MX793]

volume is one thing... what about the measurements?

Measurements are distance, volume is actual space.  But if you want to talk measurements, the E350 is larger than the TSX by an inch or more in all but 3 of the 8 standard interior room measurements.  The TSX is larger by an inch or more in only 1 and in all only trumps the E350 in 2 measurement categories.

E350 / TSX
Front Head Room  39.1 / 37.6  (E350 by 1.5 inches)
Front Hip Room  57.2 / 55.6  (E350 by 1.6 inches)
Front Shoulder Room  56.4 / 57.8  (TSX by 1.4 inches)
Front Leg Room  41.9 / 42.4  (TSX by .5 inches)
Rear Head Room  37.8 / 37.0  (E350 by .8 inches)
Rear Hip Room  56.1 / 54.2  (E350 by 1.9 inches)
Rear Shoulder Room  57.2 / 56.1  (E350 by 1.1 inches)
Rear Leg Room  35.6 / 34.3  (E350 by 1.3 inches)

(measurements per Edmunds)

[Submariner]

What is your point? The Camry outsells all 3--probably put together.

I was comparing sales of the (supposedly vastly superior) RL to some of its competitors.   

[Tave]

To what end?


As everyone on this board has told everyone else a million times or more, better sales don't equal a better car.

[Submariner]

To what end?


As everyone on this board has told everyone else a million times or more, better sales don't equal a better car.

Then who here thinks the RL is the superior car? 

[SVT_Power]

I mean DC2 or GC8, those are common.  E46 is common.

CL9?  Not common at all.

wut the flip? DC2? GC8? CL9?

[SVT_Power]

To what end?


As everyone on this board has told everyone else a million times or more, better sales don't equal a better car.

I think the correct phrase would be better sales equal a better product (not necessarily in automotive enthusiast's terms but more economically)

[Tave]

Then who here thinks the RL is the superior car? 

The reviewers who YO mentioned.

[CJ]

Given the choice between a TSX and an E350, I can tell you that I would not choose the Acura. 

[YO]

Me... I've driven both extensively...

RL= Faster, much better handling and "feel, much better stereo, much more toys, and better crash tests.  The navigation is decades ahead. I'm a gadget junkie and the RL does dozens of things electroncally that the E doesn't offer. And with SH-AWD and some upgraded factory 19"s, the RL is almost "fun" dare I say...

E350= Looks. Bling power. Elegant interior. Huge trunk.  An uncomfortable nod of respect anywhere you go.

Then who here thinks the RL is the superior car? 

[Submariner]

Me... I've driven both extensively...

RL= Faster, much better handling and "feel, much better stereo, much more toys, and better crash tests.  The navigation is decades ahead. I'm a gadget junkie and the RL does dozens of things electroncally that the E doesn't offer. And with SH-AWD and some upgraded factory 19"s, the RL is almost "fun" dare I say...

E350= Looks. Bling power. Elegant interior. Huge trunk.  An uncomfortable nod of respect anywhere you go.

It's a good thing the public does too. 

[YO]

but besides prestiege, the E350 gives you nothing better cept a huge trunk...

Given the choice between a TSX and an E350, I can tell you that I would not choose the Acura. 

[sportyaccordy]

but besides prestiege, the E350 gives you nothing better cept a huge trunk...

And RWD. I would bet the two cars drive nothing alike

[CJ]

The Mercedes also has better build quality and finer materials.  The leather Honda uses is like cardboard.

[YO]

E is slightly firmer than a GS350... I'd choose the TSX

And RWD. I would bet the two cars drive nothing alike

[YO]

Most E class's do not come with leather...

The Mercedes also has better build quality and finer materials.  The leather Honda uses is like cardboard.

[CALL_911]

Most E class's do not come with leather...

In that case, MB-Tex is better than Acura leather.

That ain't good either.

[YO]

if you think so...

In that case, MB-Tex is better than Acura leather.

That ain't good either.

[sportyaccordy]

E is slightly firmer than a GS350... I'd choose the TSX

I dont like Benzes so within that class I would go with the... 535i.

How much more money will the TSX V6 be over the Accord V6 fully loaded???

Too many cars in the same segment... with the same motors & equipment. Why Honda why?

[CALL_911]

I dont like Benzes so within that class I would go with the... 535i.

Yessir.

[YO]

again, you need to drive both. IT's like saying

a 2009 Accord V6 is:

quiker then a 5 Series and E class caus it is
Larger than a 5 Series and E class caus it is
Has a better nav than a 5 Series and E class caus it does

HOW CAN BMW AND BENZ COMPETE!!??

Use some logic please

I dont like Benzes so within that class I would go with the... 535i.

How much more money will the TSX V6 be over the Accord V6 fully loaded???

Too many cars in the same segment... with the same motors & equipment. Why Honda why?

[CALL_911]

again, you need to drive both. IT's like saying

a 2009 Accord V6 is:

quiker then a 5 Series and E class caus it is
Larger than a 5 Series and E class caus it is
Has a better nav than a 5 Series and E class caus it does

HOW CAN BMW AND BENZ COMPETE!!??

Use some logic please

Are we comparing a 535i? Because if we are, the 535i rapes the Accord so hard, it bleeds (quickness).

The 5-series drives so much better than the Accord that it makes the logic that they don't compete 100% valid.

[YO]

DRIVE BOTH. THEN SPEAK

Are we comparing a 535i? Because if we are, the 535i rapes the Accord so hard, it bleeds (quickness).

The 5-series drives so much better than the Accord that it makes the logic that they don't compete 100% valid.

[CALL_911]

DRIVE BOTH. THEN SPEAK

Done, and done.

In fact, you're at an advantage. I'm comparing a TSX.