Volvo C30

[Tave]

My roomate's S40 has the same console. I've never noticed any glare on it.

[Raza]

Not in this area, anyway. You see, there's a global economic crisis right now. People are losing their jobs. Consequently these people are selling the cars they can no longer afford to keep. But, they're upside-down on the loans: the cars are worth less than the outstanding principal. Despite the fact the cars are completely, utterly, totally not worth what people are asking for them, they won't budge on price. Because they need the money to pay off the rest of their retarded loan. And they get very offended when you tell them, "Look, I understand your predicament, but I'm not going to buy a used one with 60,000 km on it for $500 less than a new one."

Okay. 

Have you thought about the Rabbit? 

Or maybe a Jetta TDI?

[93JC]

Besides, I think the standard finish is matte black plastic. The 'metal' accent is an option, or so the salesman with me last night said.

[Raza]

Besides, I think the standard finish is matte black plastic. The 'metal' accent is an option, or so the salesman with me last night said.

Matte black might look really good.  I don't think that's how it is here, though. 

The C30 is a good looking car, though.  It might make an interesting used buy in a few years time.

[93JC]

Have you thought about the Rabbit? 

Or maybe a Jetta TDI?

Everyone seems to keep telling me to try a GTI, or at the very least a Rabbit, but I have no desire to own a Volkswagen. The C30 interested me mostly because of the looks. I knew going in it would be expensive, but I wanted to see how it would perform anyway. I'm not really interested in any of its [direct] competitors.

[Tave]

Matte black might look really good.  I don't think that's how it is here, though. 

The C30 is a good looking car, though.  It might make an interesting used buy in a few years time.

My psychic superpowers tell me you will never purchase a Volvo.

[Raza]

Have you ever driven a Rabbit?  Or do you just enjoy being close-minded?

[Raza]

My psychic superpowers tell me you will never purchase a Volvo.

I used to think I'd never own a Volkswagen either, or even a FWD car.  Now I've had two.   

Actually, when I was shopping for a new car, one of my early choices was the S60 T5.  Too expensive, too hard to find with a manual though.  I also shopped S40 and C30.  Ran into the same problems. 

[Raza]

My roomate's S40 has the same console. I've never noticed any glare on it.

Maybe it's just me.  Or the pictures are messing with my memory.  Seems shiny though.

[93JC]

Matte black might look really good.  I don't think that's how it is here, though. 

I just looked it up: the 2.4i comes with standard 'Bauxite' inlays. Aluminum inlays are part of the Premium Package, and are standard in the T5.

[93JC]

Have you ever driven a Rabbit?  Or do you just enjoy being close-minded?

Close-minded.

Actually my aunt and uncle have had Volkswagens for a long time, and their recent Mk V Jetta TDI (the old 1.9, not the new 2.0) had a few issues, and their new Tiguan has spent about as much time at the dealer as it has on the road since they got it in January. So, you know, I'm kind of wary.

[Vinsanity]

Is it different from the S60R's?

I believe it's the same

[Raza]

Close-minded.

Actually my aunt and uncle have had Volkswagens for a long time, and their recent Mk V Jetta TDI (the old 1.9, not the new 2.0) had a few issues, and their new Tiguan has spent about as much time at the dealer as it has on the road since they got it in January. So, you know, I'm kind of wary.

Oh well.  Your loss. 

I believe it's the same

That's what I thought.  They look funny.

[TBR]

DISCLAIMER TO CAVEMAN:

SWEEPING GENERALIZATIONS AND SARCASM LEND TO HUMOR.  SORRY FOR OFFENDING YOU.  THAT BEING SAID, THE JETTA ISN'T MY FAVORITE CAR IN THE WORLD.  AND YES, I'D BUY A COROLLA BEFORE I'D BUY A JETTA.

The thing is you aren't very good at this humor stuff...

[mzziaz]

Not in this area, anyway. You see, there's a global economic crisis right now. People are losing their jobs. Consequently these people are selling the cars they can no longer afford to keep. But, they're upside-down on the loans: the cars are worth less than the outstanding principal. Despite the fact the cars are completely, utterly, totally not worth what people are asking for them, they won't budge on price. Because they need the money to pay off the rest of their retarded loan. And they get very offended when you tell them, "Look, I understand your predicament, but I'm not going to buy a used one with 60,000 km on it for $500 less than a new one."

That will change. Fast.

Anyway, you are a carguy and still pretty young, right?
Still you are looking at all those boremobiles the rest of the world is stuck with. You, on the other hand, are born in the land of milk and honey (or close enough) where gas still is cheap and V8's are bountyfull. Do you relly want to tell your grandchildren that you chose an econobox over one of the last 'murican fuck-the-climate-crisis-mobiles?


Now, man up and get a Mustang.   

[93JC]

You make a passionate argument, I'll give you that.

I still want something practical. Or more practical than a Mustang or Genesis coupe.


Hmm... now all I can think about is a C30 with the 4.4 L Yamaha V8...

[Raza]

You make a passionate argument, I'll give you that.

I still want something practical. Or more practical than a Mustang or Genesis coupe.


Hmm... now all I can think about is a C30 with the 4.4 L Yamaha V8...

More practical than a Mustang?

How about a Mustang convertible?  Limitless cargo space.

[93JC]

I don't want a convertible. Maybe when I'm older, have more money, and a garage; or in other terms, have the ability to maintain a second 'toy' car.

[mzziaz]

come on. You look at a c30 but a stang isn't practical enough? I'm tempted to throw a facepalm here.

[Vinsanity]

The Volvo has cheaper fuel and insurance costs

[93JC]

And has a usable cargo area, more importantly.

[Raza]

And has a usable cargo area, more importantly.

Yeah, but you'll need a ladder to get to the loading plane.  And also, don't try anything too wide.



As a credible GTI alternative, it really falls short in the hatchbackness of it.  If it came out post-Scirocco, I think it would have been much more accepted as a stylized Scirocco hatch/coupe alternative. 

[Rich]

And has a usable cargo area, more importantly.

The Mustang has fold down rear seats, about as much trunk/cargo room as my old 4dr Cavalier had

why do you need all this cargo room?  I don't think you'd need to lug any more shit around than I would and the MINI was more than enough (less room than the Mustang) and am thinking about a 370Z when I get back

[2o6]

Audi A3? 

[CJ]

The C30 is less expensive than the A3, so it's not likely.



You know, you could always 'import' a car from the US. 

[93JC]

Thought of that. If I decide the C30 is what I like best, despite its price, I'll be looking at used ones from the states first.

[Madman]

For the money, I'd rather have a V50.  It's essentially the same car as the C30 but with two extra doors and a lot more cargo room.  Costs about the same and it's far more usable.


Cheers,
Madman of the People

[Raza]

For the money, I'd rather have a V50.  It's essentially the same car as the C30 but with two extra doors and a lot more cargo room.  Costs about the same and it's far more usable.


Cheers,
Madman of the People

That's a good point.  Plus the V50 has been around longer, so it would have better used prices.  T5 FWD with a manual!  (AWD if you're boring.)

[93JC]

Vee-fitty? "About the same"? Dude, it's a good $7,000 more than a C30. A V50 T5 (FWD) is a $40,000 car.

[J86]