Infiniti M!

[2o6]

Not too sure how I feel about the front facia and how the character line protrudes outward. It looks a bit strange at the front.






Interior looks classy.


http://www.autoblog.com/2009/08/14/monterey-2009-2011-infiniti-m-makes-virtual-reveal-in-pebble/

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

Nice! I'm not a fan of the grill 'tho.

[ifcar]

The first photo, the profile, gives me an immediate "ugh" reaction. It looks good in the other views, but the interior styling is too carryover.

[CALL_911]

I like it! IMO, it definitely looks better than the W212.

[Catman]

OOoooooooo!    Love it.  M56s   

[the Teuton]

It's looks great -- a rare comment for this class.

[2o6]

It's looks great -- a rare comment for this class.

At first I was going to say something, but you're right. The 5-series and E-class are ugly. The GS and this are actually good looking.

[565]

Holy shit M56.  I expected the M50, but this is a surprise.

It only says over 400hp. 

I get the feeling it's quite alot over 400hp.  Nissan mentioned something about uniting it's endurance V8's from the truck line and the VK series V8's from it's luxury cars.

If we assume the same HP/L as the 5.0 V8 in the FX, we are looking at 437hp. 

[the Teuton]

Maybe the high performance version of this car will be that GT-R sedan everyone's been talking about.

[Submariner]

It's too swoopy.

Whether it grows on me or not is a different story.

[68_427]

Very dramatic.

I rike it.

[CJ]

I do not like this at all.  W212, please.  Actually, W211 please.

[Vinsanity]

Holy shit M56.  I expected the M50, but this is a surprise.

hehe, same here.

I'm giggling like a little school girl looking at that decklid badge. It's like seeing the first digit on your paycheck +1 higher than usual

[mojammer]

Holy shit M56.  I expected the M50, but this is a surprise.

It only says over 400hp.  

I get the feeling it's quite alot over 400hp.  Nissan mentioned something about uniting it's endurance V8's from the truck line and the VK series V8's from it's luxury cars.

If we assume the same HP/L as the 5.0 V8 in the FX, we are looking at 437hp.  

I think you're right, 420-440 is probably what they're going for.  It'll be enough to swoop the E550, and the next 400hp 5 series (on paper at least; that V8tt makes more like 450hp.)

The rear doors look small relative to the front doors.  

Also, supposedly it'll be larger than most other mid-sizers.  Is Infiniti making the M it's flagship, and renouncing a Q forever?

The first picture has some Panamera resemblance.

[cawimmer430]

The 3/4 rear profile looks like the Jaguar XF. I'm surprised nobody has said this yet since everyone was so quick to claim the W212 E-Class looks like a Lexus GS in the front and a Hyundai from the rear. 




Is this the new Infiniti Essence design language? It looks very "European" somehow. I mean the side profile reminds me of classic Jaguar lines from the '50s and '60s. The front is pretty aggressive and has that Infiniti-look, but the rest of the car doesn't look like an 'Infiniti" to me. Maybe that will change when more models receive the Essence design language.

[CALL_911]

The 3/4 rear profile looks like the Jaguar XF. I'm surprised nobody has said this yet since everyone was so quick to claim the W212 E-Class looks like a Lexus GS in the front and a Hyundai from the rear. 




Is this the new Infiniti Essence design language? It looks very "European" somehow. I mean the side profile reminds me of classic Jaguar lines from the '50s and '60s. The front is pretty aggressive and has that Infiniti-look, but the rest of the car doesn't look like an 'Infiniti" to me. Maybe that will change when more models receive the Essence design language.

I don't see it. I see way more Hyundai/GS in the E than I see XF in this.

[ifcar]

The M isn't necessarily attractive, but it certainly isn't in any way derivative.

[cawimmer430]

I don't see it. I see way more Hyundai/GS in the E than I see XF in this.

Yay! Argument time!

I get the feeling people here, being so friggin sports biased, love to hate on the cars which don't really focus on this aspect: E-Class, RL and the GS.

To me the rear of this M has something "Jaguar" about it and the side profile too. If I ever see the car in real life I might change my mind because pictures don't really tell the whole story. And until now I really don't see the Lexus GS aspect in the front of the E-Class. I just don't. There are no design cues from the GS in the front of the new W212. And the rear lights? The B-Class had this rear light design ages ago - it was incorporated into the new E-Class, stretched and reformed a bit. That's how I see it.

[ifcar]

"I get the feeling people here, being so friggin sports biased, love to hate on the cars which don't really focus on this aspect: E-Class, RL and the GS."

The GS doesn't do either comfort or sport well, the RL is too much like a TL but more expensive, and the E-Class is too expensive.

[cawimmer430]

"I get the feeling people here, being so friggin sports biased, love to hate on the cars which don't really focus on this aspect: E-Class, RL and the GS."

The GS doesn't do either comfort or sport well, the RL is too much like a TL but more expensive, and the E-Class is too expensive.

I've read the same about the GS.

Why does everyone here hate the RL? I've seen a handful of Honda Legends here in Europe and it looks like a great car. Everything about it screams value. Is the drive that bad?

[ifcar]

I've read the same about the GS.

Why does everyone here hate the RL? I've seen a handful of Honda Legends here in Europe and it looks like a great car. Everything about it screams value. Is the drive that bad?

It's not that it's bad, it's that it feels like a class below what it is. It's got very little if anything over Acura's own TL in space, power, or quality.

[cawimmer430]

It's not that it's bad, it's that it feels like a class below what it is. It's got very little if anything over Acura's own TL in space, power, or quality.

The 3.5 V6 of the RL makes how much horsepower?

[ifcar]

The 3.5 V6 of the RL makes how much horsepower?

3.7-liter, 300 hp.

The TL has a standard 3.5-liter 280 hp V6, with an available 3.7-liter 305-hp.

[cawimmer430]

3.7-liter, 300 hp.

What are they thinking? A schoolbus has more horsepower! 

[ifcar]

What are they thinking? A schoolbus has more horsepower! 

Again, it's not that the RL itself is bad, it's that Acura hasn't distinguished it from its own cheaper, newer TL. Sales have reflected that.

[cawimmer430]

Again, it's not that the RL itself is bad, it's that Acura hasn't distinguished it from its own cheaper, newer TL. Sales have reflected that.

I have a question. Are Americans that sensitive?

I mean the RL must offer more space than a TL, right? I have a hard time believing someone buying an RL will feel annoyed if a cheaper TL has more horsepower. Everyone here seems to think people go for cars based on horsepower and performance output - there is much more to a car than that and everyone here seems to be ignoring those aspects IMO.

[Vinsanity]

Also, supposedly it'll be larger than most other mid-sizers.  Is Infiniti making the M it's flagship, and renouncing a Q forever?

I believe that's the case with the current M. At least compared to its competitors in 2005.

The Q was always in the shadow of the Lexus LS, and was never successful that way. If Infiniti brought back the Q to compete with, say, the Mercedes CLS, then I bet they would find more success that way. At least it would be more interesting.

[CALL_911]

I have a question. Are Americans that sensitive?

I mean the RL must offer more space than a TL, right? I have a hard time believing someone buying an RL will feel annoyed if a cheaper TL has more horsepower. Everyone here seems to think people go for cars based on horsepower and performance output - there is much more to a car than that and everyone here seems to be ignoring those aspects IMO.

It doesn't offer more space than the TL, or the Accord, for that matter.

[cawimmer430]

It doesn't offer more space than the TL, or the Accord, for that matter.

Wait, wait. The TL competes with the 3er right?

[CALL_911]

Wait, wait. The TL competes with the 3er right?

Yeah.