GM hoping Solstice will spark Pontiac revival

Started by BMWDave, August 16, 2005, 02:33:08 PM

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Small Car, Huge Mission: GM hoping Solstice will spark Pontiac revival, be an example for automaker
RICHARD TRUETT | Automotive News
Posted Date: 8/16/05
DETROIT - The just-launched Pontiac Solstice roadster has a lot riding on its pumped-up shoulders.

General Motors Vice Chairman Robert Lutz expects the $20,000 roadster to kick-start the much-needed rejuvenation of Pontiac. And, he says, GM must create more cars like the Solstice if the company is going to reduce incentives and rebuild market share.

John Larson, general manager of the Pontiac, Buick and GMC divisions, thinks the Solstice will be a milestone car for GM. "We believe this vehicle has the potential to become a complete automotive icon, like the GTO or Corvette," he says.

That's a huge responsibility for a small car to carry, but the buzz from early buyers suggests it may be justified.

GM invited buyers of the first 1,000 Solstices to Detroit on Aug. 5 for a kickoff party that saw the first Solstice delivered to a middle-aged couple from Idaho. All 1,000 buyers chose the Solstice on looks and price alone, without the benefit of a test drive or even seeing one up close, in the metal.

Many said they hadn't owned a GM vehicle in years.

Nick Fuduloff, 45, a firefighter from Pennsylvania who drives a Nissan SUV and a Toyota sedan, said he had never before bought a car without taking it for a test drive. But he isn't worried about quality issues with the Solstice, he said.

"It seems like they took their time on it," Fuduloff said.

Jeff Maki, 40, a chemist from Grand Rapids, Mich., said: "As soon as I saw it, I fell in love with it. I went to the dealer in November and put my name on a list."

Holly Johnson, 46, a registered nurse from Pennsylvania, plans to park her Toyota Avalon and keep it as a second car when she takes delivery of her Solstice. Before the GM event, she had never sat in a Solstice.

"It fits!" she shrieked after settling into the driver's seat of a silver Solstice on display in the lobby of the GM headquarters building.

"I think the quality will be good. The last GM car I had was a good one," she said.

The Solstice is the first car of its type from GM. No other GM division has ever built a two-seat, four-cylinder, rear-drive convertible.

Speaking to the crowd at the launch event, Larson said GM officials have been paying close attention to what potential customers were saying about the Solstice.

"There's been an emotional connection between Pontiac and the customer that is unique to this vehicle," he said. "We intend to keep that relationship just the way it is and grow it even further."

GM is trying to whittle down a backlog of nearly 10,000 orders for the car. Pontiac spokesman Jim Hopson said GM expects to have those orders filled by December.

GM officials would not say how many Solstices are being built daily at the company's Wilmington, Del., plant. But according to the Automotive News Data Center, the plant turned out only 330 units in July.

To fill the order backlog, the plant will have to crank out an average of 2,000 cars a month until the end of the year. Pontiac plans to build about 20,000 Solstices in 2006.

eBay Solstice index: Warmish

If you've got a Pontiac Solstice to sell and are trolling for suckers, don't spend those windfall profits yet. Early results on eBay suggest people so far aren't willing to pay crazy money for the sleek two-seater.

Unlike the Ford Mustang GT, which still fetches $2,000-plus over sticker, a few Solstices on the Web site were drawing premiums of about $750 over the sticker price of $19,995.

Someone in Missouri was trying to sell the 130th Solstice built for $40,000. No takers.

It will take awhile for the market to shake out. And the Solstice will be far more difficult for Pontiac dealers to come up with than, say, an Aztek. General Motors says it has 10,000 orders in hand -- about the same number it plans to produce by year end.

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Raza

God, stupid people who pay over sticker on normal production cars like this lead to more dealer markups, and smart customers get disgruntled.
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Quote from: the Teuton on October 05, 2009, 03:53:18 PMIt's impossible to argue with Raza. He wins. Period. End of discussion.

ciciusss

Raza,

Well in this case, the smart shopper could just wait a few months and get a Saturn Sky which will sell for the sticker price. It also could be the reason why the Solstice is not fetching the enormous markups that has been seen on other hot models in the past.

ifcar

Last I heard, the Sky's sticker price will still be significantly higher than the Solstice's.

ciciusss

QuoteLast I heard, the Sky's sticker price will still be significantly higher than the Solstice's.
IFCAR,

You are correct about that. The Sky will be more expensive than the Solstice. However, if you add all the options on to the Solstice that will be standard features on the Sky, the Sky will be more expensive by probably $1,000 (maybe a little more). Options on the Solstice, such as power locks, windows and mirrors, Onstar, cruise control and air conditioning, most will be standard on the Sky. The base price for the Solstice is $19,995. The Sky is expected to start for less than $25,000.

My point was while Pontiac retailers may price the Solstice above the suggested MSRP (which will be to the chagrin of GM) Saturn will sell the Sky for MSRP as is their practice. Those Pontiac retailers and future owners who are trying to retrieve a premium price for the Solstice, fail to take into consideration that the Sky is being released not that far after the Solstice. And as fine a looking a vehicle that the Solstice is most polls indicate that the car buying public believes the Sky to be even better looking. I think that those people who are interested in buying a Solstice, but run into someone who is trying to fetch a higher price for the car than the MSRP are likely to say "screw it I will buy a Sky or new Mazda MX5."  

ifcar

I'd expect the MX-5 to go above sticker as well. <_<

SJ_GTI

Isn't the Solstice now on sale? Is it being marked above MSRP?