Compacts of the 90's.

[The Pirate]

Honda > Mazda

They both have good things and bad things.  Stock for stock, the Mazda is far more fun on a twisty road.

[the Teuton]

I seem to be the only one to have voted for the best car in this thread.

[Cookie Monster]

I seem to be the only one to have voted for the best car in this thread.

What, a car that's 400 lbs heavier than a Civic but has the same HP and costs more?

[2o6]

Golf GTI VR6, without a doubt. Debating saying screw the girl and getting one. Everything else felt like and was a little Japanese rattletrap.

From what I hear, it's incredibly front heavy and does not handle well. People say that it's the worst GTI ever.

I seem to be the only one to have voted for the best car in this thread.

A car that's hopelessly slow and piss-poor MPG's?

This car is making me want a 92-00 Civic sedan now.

Me too. I like the coupe a smidgen more, though.

[Cookie Monster]

From what I hear, it's incredibly front heavy and does not handle well. People say that it's the worst GTI ever.


A car that's hopelessly slow and piss-poor MPG's?

Me too. I like the coupe a smidgen more, though.

Sedan > coupe

[2o6]

Sedan > coupe

The Coupe looks better, IMO.


It's not like either is ugly.

[The Pirate]

I seem to be the only one to have voted for the best car in this thread.

No, the car you like the most has only garnered one vote thus far.

[the Teuton]

What, a car that's 400 lbs heavier than a Civic but has the same HP and costs more?

Show me a Civic with 137 hp...or 142, for that matter, besides the Si.

And show me a rally-slaying Civic, too.

Oh yeah, how do you know what I voted for? I have not told anyone here. I say you're an asshole who likes to prejudge people.

[The Pirate]

Oh yeah, how do you know what I voted for? I have not told anyone here. I say you're an asshole who likes to prejudge people.

Yes, we've made a [reasonable] assumption here.  If I am incorrect, I'll gladly eat crow.

[2o6]

TBR says he voted for the Neon. I'm still the only vote.



Maybe Teuton voted for the Esteem.

[TBR]

TBR says he voted for the Neon. I'm still the only vote.



Maybe Teuton voted for the Esteem.

Oops. I forgot to actually vote .

[TBR]

Show me a Civic with 137 hp...or 142, for that matter, besides the Si.

And show me a rally-slaying Civic, too.

Oh yeah, how do you know what I voted for? I have not told anyone here. I say you're an asshole who likes to prejudge people.

Show me an Impreza with 150hp and a 2300 lb curb weight.

[the Teuton]

Show me an Impreza with 150hp and a 2300 lb curb weight.

Show me a Neon with AWD.

[the Teuton]

Yes, we've made a [reasonable] assumption here.  If I am incorrect, I'll gladly eat crow.

I'm not telling you. I just don't feel like doing so.

[Cookie Monster]

What about the Integra Sedan? Was that too expensive compared to these cars?

[ifcar]

Show me a Neon with AWD.

[TBR]

Show me a Neon with AWD.

Show me a reason a compact sedan should have AWD.

[2o6]

What about the Integra Sedan? Was that too expensive compared to these cars?

Yes.

[the Teuton]

Show me a reason a compact sedan should have AWD.

Show me a reason why a compact sedan should have 150 hp.

[TBR]

Show me a reason why a compact sedan should have 150 hp.

Because it'll be faster. Meanwhile, AWD gets you traction you don't really need, more weight, less power, and worse gas mileage.

[sportyaccordy]

Because it'll be faster. Meanwhile, AWD gets you traction you don't really need, more weight, less power, and worse gas mileage.

Yea... I actually would prefer something like an A4 w/o AWD. A FWD Audi is kind of blasphemous but a 150HP 3500# AWD car is just damn slow. My mom's RX300 has about that power to weight ratio... it's just not fun at all.

[S204STi]

Hard choice between the Sentra and the Impreza.  I went with the Impreza just because the 2.5RS is a champ.

[the Teuton]

Because it'll be faster. Meanwhile, AWD gets you traction you don't really need, more weight, less power, and worse gas mileage.

Your argument sucks.

[Onslaught]

I'll walk.

[TBR]

Your argument sucks.

No it isn't. You get to use the significantly superior power to weight ratio of the Neon far more frequently than you get to use the extra traction of the Impreza.

[Cookie Monster]

No it isn't. You get to use the significantly superior power to weight ratio of the Neon far more frequently than you get to use the extra traction of the Impreza.

Plus I'm sure that a Civic or Neon with good snow tires could go almost anywhere an Impreza can.

[the Teuton]

Plus I'm sure that a Civic or Neon with good snow tires could go almost anywhere an Impreza can.

Bah!

No.

[Cookie Monster]

Bah!

No.

Ask Pirate. I think he said that his Civic was pretty unstoppable in snow.

So there goes your AWD argument.

[CALL_911]

Does this include the Impreza 2.5RS?

If it does, that's my pick.

[The Pirate]

Bah!

No.

Yeah, a 2WD car with good snow tires is a better winter vehicle than an AWD car with all-seasons.  I've driven both combinations extensively.  AWD helps you accelerate.  It does very little for braking and turning in winter driving.  Tires are where it's at.  All-seasons is a misnomer, IMO.  They are 3-season tires, and a compromise at that.  But doable, I've had all-seasons on a RWD pickup (well, it was 4WD at one point), and several FWD cars, including the Mazda.