Toyota's at it again!

Started by FoMoJo, November 05, 2009, 06:25:40 AM

2o6

Quote from: GoCougs on December 06, 2009, 10:13:19 AM
Slow down for traffic and don't shift into a lower gear...


Maybe the AT is doing just that.

GoCougs

Quote from: 2o6 on December 06, 2009, 10:16:58 AM

Maybe the AT is doing just that.

Torque converter would prevent stalling in such a scenario; about the only way to stall an A/T car is to shift into reverse at speed.

But I was thinking of the M/T cars.

Raza

Quote from: GoCougs on December 06, 2009, 10:13:19 AM
Slow down for traffic and don't shift into a lower gear...

How slow?  My car probably wouldn't stall at 20mph in 6th, I can't imagine many people are stopping their car without clutching in. 

And the article clearly states: "Federal safety officials have opened a probe into two models of Toyota Motor Corp. vehicles after drivers reported that their cars stalled in traffic, sometimes at highway speeds. "

I don't think "stopped" is considered a highway speed. 
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Quote from: the Teuton on October 05, 2009, 03:53:18 PMIt's impossible to argue with Raza. He wins. Period. End of discussion.

ifcar

Quote from: Raza  on December 06, 2009, 01:08:16 PM

I don't think "stopped" is considered a highway speed. 

You should sample the D.C. rush hour.

VTEC_Inside

Quote from: GoCougs on December 06, 2009, 10:23:11 AM
Torque converter would prevent stalling in such a scenario; about the only way to stall an A/T car is to shift into reverse at speed.

But I was thinking of the M/T cars.

Not if the lock-up on the converter stuck.
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Raza

Quote from: ifcar on December 06, 2009, 01:26:45 PM
You should sample the D.C. rush hour.

Yeah, I've never been in a traffic jam before.

:rolleyes:
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Quote from: the Teuton on October 05, 2009, 03:53:18 PMIt's impossible to argue with Raza. He wins. Period. End of discussion.

VTEC_Inside

Honda, The Heartbeat of Japan...
2018 Honda Accord Sport 2.0T 6MT 252hp 273lb/ft
2006 Acura CSX Touring 160hp 141lb/ft *Sons car now*
2004 Acura RSX Type S 6spd 200hp 142lb/ft
1989 Honda Accord Coupe LX 5spd 2bbl 98hp 109lb/ft *GONE*
Slushies are something to drink, not drive...

Rich

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VTEC_Inside

Quote from: GoCougs on November 25, 2009, 08:26:41 AM
I'm still having a real hard time believing that it's the floor mat. A real hard time.

Have a hard time no longer, it wasn't the floor mat.
Honda, The Heartbeat of Japan...
2018 Honda Accord Sport 2.0T 6MT 252hp 273lb/ft
2006 Acura CSX Touring 160hp 141lb/ft *Sons car now*
2004 Acura RSX Type S 6spd 200hp 142lb/ft
1989 Honda Accord Coupe LX 5spd 2bbl 98hp 109lb/ft *GONE*
Slushies are something to drink, not drive...

FoMoJo

Quote from: VTEC_Inside on January 15, 2010, 07:13:57 PM
The plot thickens...

http://www.leftlanenews.com/toyota-avalon-displays-unintended-acceleration-without-floor-mat.html
That makes a bit more sense. 

All those modified floormats and gas pedals for nothing :huh:.  It would be interesting to see the stats on other manufacturers with DBW systems.  I'm sure that Toyota isn't the only one with gremlins.
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ifcar

Quote from: VTEC_Inside on January 15, 2010, 07:13:57 PM
The plot thickens...

http://www.leftlanenews.com/toyota-avalon-displays-unintended-acceleration-without-floor-mat.html

This shows that someone who knows operate a car can prevent an accident. Shame about all the money they're wasting on pedal redesigns, but that will probably solve a few problems too.

AutobahnSHO

Quote from: VTEC_Inside on January 15, 2010, 07:13:57 PM
The plot thickens...

http://www.leftlanenews.com/toyota-avalon-displays-unintended-acceleration-without-floor-mat.html

That's pure scary. If other news outlets are paying attention and pass this along, Toyota would be doing some serious suffrage.
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