Why is our 2WD truck so high?!

[Raza]

Oh I remember now. Now that I think about it, I don't think I've heard ANYTHING about a the frontier since it was overhauled in 05 or something?

No idea.  I remember reading about the Nissan Navara in Evo, saying I liked it, and then someone here telling me it's the same thing as the Frontier.

[93JC]

Mark if I said my parents were about to pick up a Grand Cherokee back when they got the explorer but they chose the explorer cuz I said the GC sucked, would you hate me? 

No, I'd laugh at your parents' expense for buying a POS Explorer.

[SVT_Power]

No, I'd laugh at your parents' expense for buying a POS Explorer.

Better than a GC 

[93JC]

Yeah, because it earned the nickname "Exploder" for no particular reason...

I mean, if we were comparing new Explorers and Grand Cherokees, I'd probably give the edge to the Explorer, because the Grand Cherokee is a piece. But the old ones? ZJs, WJs?

[SVT_Power]

Yeah, because it earned the nickname "Exploder" for no particular reason...

I mean, if we were comparing new Explorers and Grand Cherokees, I'd probably give the edge to the Explorer, because the Grand Cherokee is a piece. But the old ones? ZJs, WJs?

New? What's considered new? Our explorer is a 03 and that's when it got the major overhaul (It got IRS that year).

[SVT_Power]

So we were comparing a 03 explorer with a 03 GC (which is a WJ). In the GC's defence, the explorer had just received a major overhaul and the GC was out since '99 at that point.

[93JC]

I'd have taken the '03 GC over the Explorer. But I'd have taken an '05 Explorer over an '05 Grand Cherokee.

Deep down I don't really care: it's your parents' money, they can do whatever they want with it.

[SVT666]

I'd have taken the '03 GC over the Explorer. But I'd have taken an '05 Explorer over an '05 Grand Cherokee.

Deep down I don't really care: it's your parents' money, they can do whatever they want with it.

No they can't!!!  They have to do with it what you say.  Don't let them get away with this.

[SVT_Power]

I'd have taken the '03 GC over the Explorer. But I'd have taken an '05 Explorer over an '05 Grand Cherokee.

Deep down I don't really care: it's your parents' money, they can do whatever they want with it.

Have you ever been in the backseat of a WJ? It's like they literally took some sponge, put some leather on it and called it a bench. It has NO support whatsoever. I was sitting in the back for all of maybe 10-15 minutes, and my back hurt so much I couldn't even get back up.

[93JC]

I have been in the backseat of a WJ, and in general I'd have to agree. It might have bothered me if I sat in the back for a long time, but I've only been in there for a few minutes at a time. I don't know if the seats in the Laredo and Limited are different; I've only been in an Overland.

I don't really care about backseat comfort though. My car's backseat is mostly useless I move the front seats up.

[SVT_Power]

I did kind of want my parents to get the GC since they were gonna get the Limited (that's the middle level right?) with a V8. Only if my parents got the explorer with a V8...

[93JC]

HO 4.7 L >>> 12v 4.6 L Modular

[SVT_Power]

HO 4.7 L >>> 12v 4.6 L Modular

12v eh? 1.5 valves per cylinder!!!!111!!

[SVT_Power]

HO 4.7 L >>> 12v 4.6 L Modular

We would've gotten the regular 4.7L (the HO was only available in the overland)

[93JC]

12v eh? 1.5 valves per cylinder!!!!111!!

Fack.

I meant to write "2v", as in two valves per cylinder. I guess my pudgy fingers and sloppy typing bit me in the ass on that one...

[Onslaught]

Chevy seems to be the only offender.

No, the F-150 has it too. Compared to my dads 2000 4WD F-150 with tow package the current ones on the bed are huge and ugly.

[rohan]

How could they not be better? I don't understand what he's talking about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-rQTHMVAuw

Good description and shows it but I'm not sure it's not rigged because it's obviously a sales pitch.

[Rupert]

Yeah, that does a pretty good job showing how it works (I had the sound off). That is pretty much the only situation where a locker is better than 4WD, however, and for that short patch of "ice," you could just get more momentum.

[rohan]

Unless you're doing something like pulling a boat out of the water where your starting from a stop.  I guess after watching that I know less about how limtied slip works that I thought I did. 

[Eye of the Tiger]

Yeah, that does a pretty good job showing how it works (I had the sound off). That is pretty much the only situation where a locker is better than 4WD, however, and for that short patch of "ice," you could just get more momentum.

For that short patch of "ice", I think they could have just driven around it. 

But really, that video demonstrates exactly what I was saying.

[Rupert]

Exactly.

Which is why, what you really want, is 4WD and a locker in the back.

[Eye of the Tiger]

Exactly.

Which is why, what you really want, is 4WD and a locker in the back.

I found that the Rodeo has a Dana Spicer 44 HD, and a Trac-Loc is about $370. I could do it at school next week if I had $370 to blow.