My Review: 2010 Camaro SS

[Schadenfreude]

That's all good and well, but ultimately the Camaro is an inferior, inefficient design. Yes the Camaro is like 1/2 the price, but I don't think there's anything extravagant about the M3's chassis. They could have maybe gone with the little Solstice chassis.

I doubt GM would've reached their targeted price point if they did that.  The hydroformed body panels in the Solstice are expensive; it would've been even more expensive if they made them the size needed to make the Camaro.

And also: the Solstice has ergonomic issues if I remember right (it's been awhile since I've driven one).

[the Teuton]

The Corvette has a huge-ass transmission tunnel. The platform could have been stretched, but the back seat would've been more Porsche 911 than G37.

[sportyaccordy]

The Corvette has a huge-ass transmission tunnel. The platform could have been stretched, but the back seat would've been more Porsche 911 than G37.

We're getting into some heavy Monday night quarterbacking, but I'm sure they could modify the C6 chassis to accommodate an engine mounted tranny.

My overall point still being that the design was pretty inefficient.

[SVT666]

The Camaro is a weak effort in my opinion, but it doesn't make the car any less thrilling.

[the Teuton]

The Camaro is a weak effort in my opinion, but it doesn't make the car any less thrilling.

When you have Lutz promising everything under the sun at affordable prices, things are bound to be cut. I still say Saab should have made a Sonnet using the platform.

[Eye of the Tiger]

When you have Lutz promising everything under the sun at affordable prices, things are bound to be cut. I still say Saab should have made a Sonnet using the platform.

WHY DIDN'T YOU SAY SO!?

[the Teuton]

WHY DIDN'T YOU SAY SO!?

I said it about a month ago. They could have done so much more with that platform instead of wasting it on two of the same car that cannibalized the sales of one another.

[2o6]

We're getting into some heavy Monday night quarterbacking, but I'm sure they could modify the C6 chassis to accommodate an engine mounted tranny.

My overall point still being that the design was pretty inefficient.

It's still too expensive.

[Tave]

And also: the Solstice has ergonomic issues if I remember right (it's been awhile since I've driven one).

I didn't fit at all.

[MrH]

That's all good and well, but ultimately the Camaro is an inferior, inefficient design. Yes the Camaro is like 1/2 the price, but I don't think there's anything extravagant about the M3's chassis. They could have maybe gone with the little Solstice chassis.

They killed that platform due to the cost of the hydroformed rails.  Those things were expensive as shit to make.

[SVT666]

They killed that platform due to the cost of the hydroformed rails.  Those things were expensive as shit to make.

Do they need to be hydroformed?

[NomisR]

I got into and out of an Elise twice. Sitting in the car is as comfortable as it can be. No complaints there.

But swinging your leg(s) in before your body is a bit awkward. It's not an easy car to get into.

Getting in is easy.. just sit on the door sill and slump into the seat and proceed to slide into the seat.  Getting out takes some upper body strength. 

[Raza]

When you have the opportunity to sit in an Elise, make sure you tape your ingress and egress and then send it to me. That's all I'm going to say.

Bitch, bitch, bitch...that's all you fucking do. 

[the Teuton]

Bitch, bitch, bitch...that's all you fucking do. 

Your mother is a wallaby and your father smells of elderberries!

[sportyaccordy]

Bitch, bitch, bitch...that's all you fucking do. 

The irony!!!

[NomisR]

The irony!!!

[omicron]

We do all know that the 190.4" Camaro rides on the same platform as the 203.1" Caprice, which is a far bigger difference than that between a 180" 335i coup? and a 189.8" 650i? The Camaro is the smallest variant of the Zeta platform, in other words, and strictly speaking is probably a size smaller than it would logically be.

[Raza]

The irony!!!

That's funny, coming from you.

[nickdrinkwater]

Saw one of those the other day, I was sorely disappointed.  They just looked kinda stupid on the road.  Way too big.  I guess that's what happens when you take it out of it's natural habitat, but still, I was looking forward to this car and it let me down.

[ifcar]

Saw one of those the other day, I was sorely disappointed.  They just looked kinda stupid on the road.  Way too big.  I guess that's what happens when you take it out of it's natural habitat, but still, I was looking forward to this car and it let me down.

It's not the Challenger is too big, it's all your stupid microcars that are the problem. Get rid of those and the Challenger would look just fine.

[hotrodalex]

It's not the Challenger is too big, it's all your stupid microcars that are the problem. Get rid of those and the Challenger would look just fine.

[GoCougs]

Nah, I don't think the Challenger looks all that hot in the flesh, even in and amongst the juggernauts roaming US highways and byways, but then again I was never a fan of the original E-body (Barracuda/Challenger) from yesteryear.

[2o6]

Nah, I don't think the Challenger looks all that hot in the flesh, even in and amongst the juggernauts roaming US highways and byways, but then again I was never a fan of the original E-body (Barracuda/Challenger) from yesteryear.

I think the Challenger looks too fat and slab sided.

[nickdrinkwater]

It's not the Challenger is too big, it's all your stupid microcars that are the problem. Get rid of those and the Challenger would look just fine.

Maybe.  It looks like a big block of plastic next to your typical Focuses and Golfs.  It was on the highway that I saw it, BTW.

[SVT666]

It looks badass in person.  I want one in a bad way even though it's very heavy and handles like crap.

[sportyaccordy]

The Challenger is a barge. They should have brought back the Daytona... IROC



LOOK AT THAT SNOUT!!

[2o6]

The Challenger is a barge. They should have brought back the Daytona... IROC



LOOK AT THAT SNOUT!!

Are you serious?

[sportyaccordy]

Are you serious?

Are YOU serious???????

[Vinsanity]

that hood is way too long for a lil 4 banger. Anything that has a cheesy IROC decal on the doors should have a big rumbly V8 especially with a hood that long

[hotrodalex]

The Challenger looks sweet, but it had to be in SRT8 form. R/T is okay, but not ideal.