Maybe SUV handling does matter, Cayenne dodges out of way of crashing truck(vid)

Started by 565, May 30, 2010, 06:50:15 PM


SVT_Power

Saw that yesterday. Pretty good reason to make sure manufacturers design SUV's not to roll.
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Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
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Rupert

Quote from: SVT_Power on May 30, 2010, 09:07:13 PM
Saw that yesterday. Pretty good reason to make sure manufacturers design SUV's not to roll.

Maybe cute utes...
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cawimmer430

It's a Porsche Cayenne. That's not an SUV. It's a 4-door sports car with a raised suspension and AWD.  :tounge:
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the Teuton

Quote from: cawimmer430 on May 31, 2010, 08:02:31 AM
It's a Porsche Cayenne. That's not an SUV. It's a 4-door sports car with a raised suspension and AWD.  :tounge:

It's a fantastic vehicle.
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Rupert

4Runner, XTerra, Land Rovers, Tahoe, Grand Cherokee, Liberty, Suburban...
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2o6

Quote from: Rupert on May 31, 2010, 11:51:25 AM
4Runner, XTerra, Land Rovers, Tahoe, Grand Cherokee, Liberty, Suburban...


I'll give you the 4-runner and XTerra and Liberty. The GM trucks are basically minivans. GC is unibody with independent front suspension and a carlike ride. The Land Rover LR2 is based upon the Ford EUCD platform (FWD Mondeo!!!).

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Rupert

:rolleyes: Put some good tires on a Tahoe or Suburban, and it will do just as well as the same from 15 years ago. The Cherokee was unibody, and the Liberty also has IFS (as does everything else I listed); also, carlike ride does not necessarily mean it can't do truck stuff. Land Rover makes more than just the LR2, and those are all real SUVs.
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the Teuton

2. 1995 Saturn SL2 5-speed, 126,500 miles. 5,000 miles in two and a half months. That works out to 24,000 miles per year if I can keep up the pace.

Quote from: CJ on April 06, 2010, 10:48:54 PM
I don't care about all that shit.  I'll be going to college to get an education at a cost to my parents.  I'm not going to fool around.
Quote from: MrH on January 14, 2011, 01:13:53 PM
She'll hate diesel passenger cars, all things Ford, and fiat currency.  They will masturbate to old interviews of Ayn Rand an youtube together.
You can take the troll out of the Subaru, but you can't take the Subaru out of the troll!

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Laconian

Quote from: 2o6 on May 31, 2010, 12:24:33 PM

So can a Cayenne.
:confused:

You guys are completely, utterly missing the point.

A truck with traditional trucky ground clearance - regardless of what obscure EUCD GM Omega Kappa platform it inherits - is still much more roll-prone than a car.
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Speed_Racer

Mad props to that Cayenne driver - it doesn't look like he even hit the yellow truck on his right.

Or was it a she?

hotrodalex

That was some crazy reaction by the Cayenne. Headed for certain destruction one second, on the complete opposite side of the freeway the next.

the Teuton

Random trivia: on several tracks, the old Cayenne Turbo proved to be a little quicker than the E46 M3.
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Quote from: CJ on April 06, 2010, 10:48:54 PM
I don't care about all that shit.  I'll be going to college to get an education at a cost to my parents.  I'm not going to fool around.
Quote from: MrH on January 14, 2011, 01:13:53 PM
She'll hate diesel passenger cars, all things Ford, and fiat currency.  They will masturbate to old interviews of Ayn Rand an youtube together.
You can take the troll out of the Subaru, but you can't take the Subaru out of the troll!

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the Teuton

2. 1995 Saturn SL2 5-speed, 126,500 miles. 5,000 miles in two and a half months. That works out to 24,000 miles per year if I can keep up the pace.

Quote from: CJ on April 06, 2010, 10:48:54 PM
I don't care about all that shit.  I'll be going to college to get an education at a cost to my parents.  I'm not going to fool around.
Quote from: MrH on January 14, 2011, 01:13:53 PM
She'll hate diesel passenger cars, all things Ford, and fiat currency.  They will masturbate to old interviews of Ayn Rand an youtube together.
You can take the troll out of the Subaru, but you can't take the Subaru out of the troll!

Rupert

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2o6

Quote from: Rupert on May 31, 2010, 11:31:43 PM
:confused: :confused:

Range Rover Sport, maybe.


The Cayenne is simply a Touraeg with a bigger engine and better interior. Both vehicles are pretty darn capable.

Tave

Wiki says the Touareg comes with 4-wheel drive, auto locking center diff (w/ manual override), low range, adjustable ride-height, and manually locking rear diff. Sounds decently capable to me.

I'd feel uncomfortable taking the Cayenne off-road, not because of its abilities, but because it's a Porsche and I wouldn't want it to get chipped/dinged/etc...

I know the VW is also an expensive vehicle, but the "Porsche" brand puts a high mental hurdle in front of me. I felt a little uncomfortable driving my uncle's ML430 in the mountains too.
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Quote from: thecarnut on March 16, 2008, 10:33:43 AM
Depending on price, that could be a good deal.

Colonel Cadillac

Quote from: 2o6 on June 01, 2010, 08:08:01 AM

The Cayenne is simply a Touraeg with a bigger engine and better interior. Both vehicles are pretty darn capable.

The Cayenne has more differentiation than that...

It is a fantastically capable vehicle, especially so when equipped with the air suspension.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbetkMgQJC8  Pretty impressive IMO